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oh the other aztec gods most definitely lack empathy,being mostly evil and selfish with a love of sacrifice and punishment. apep the immortal from the egyptian pantheon is another god dragon...and nidhogg possibly.im not sure where i got nidhogg from.i think hes a companion of one of the gods. whate...

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sorry bout that,i tend to get carried away with myself and dont always read messages properly.well,once ive got the time i AM going to unify it all anyway.im going to scour every single book and write down each and every related reference categorize them and force them all into unity.

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as far as making gods goes...it seems like this.Intelligences seem to have an unprinted natural ability to do so.Gods can do it with an unprinted magical ritual or procreate and mortals can ascend with enough worshippers.its the details that are missing.i'm inclined to rewrite pantheons to bring it ...

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i was just going off what dragons and gods said under worshippers.i prefer to go with whats said in rules sections,over mentions outside of those sections.and like i said its two different settings.though they are cited as being compatible,theyre only compatible as far as the basics go.i think its b...

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the Dragonwright eh? yeah i love those guys.I think i read that they became gods after ruling over some early civilization in the yin-sloth jungles or somewhere near there.cant remember which book that was.but ive looked at the worshippers thing.its not worshippers to become a god.its a case that a ...

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well it kinda is locked,but isnt.relies on GMs fiat but doesnt. we know its possible to make gods but are presented with different and somewhat ambiguous ways of doing it.The books writer just went with the allover the place,pick'n'mix approach. If i were using create minion,i'd base the creation on...

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lol all that just confuses matters even more...but at the same time suggesting theres a magic ritual for god creation.Pantheons needs to be re done and bought more in line with D&Gs.for that matter,england needs to be updated.i'm not happy with england.

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yeah thats a nice item...i wouldnt draw any cards out of it though.i have terrible luck with cards.

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for me,i do like the idea that most of the gods have a genesis based around the AI's,but im not sure if its something i'll implement or even have the opportunity to explore in my first game.if i do,i dont know if i'll allow other avenues to godhood or not. yeah i did consider create minion in an ear...

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oh i had nothing in mind.well i had in mind that there might be answers in books i didnt have.so i guess i was just trying to broaden my knowledge.I dont see the way it currently sits as negative or positive.it just is what it is.and only becomes a negative or positive depending on the needs and int...

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all good points,but ive already accepted its all as will be written.just from the writers point of view,its not set in stone.and trying to divine answers to my questions is impractical as those answers only exist in the varied minds of the many GMs.

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do these rules circumvent the absence of a loop connection to the GM? im sure the loop is a fundamental law that is unable to be circumvented by anything but an actual loop hole.in this case a loop peephole,enabling the GM knowledge of all the dirtiness the players are upto.

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no my argument is not that a HU demigod loses his powers in rifts.again,youre not reading or understanding what im saying.Im sayin that superpowers as a function of a demigod are a HU thing and that he'd have to be built FOR HU to have them.But built as a rifts character,he would not.To have your su...

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nothing is beyond the GM!!! unless hes kept out of the loop.

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yeah i guess at the end of the day there is no big megaversal plan.it really is just left open for GMs to decide.

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i dont know,godtrials might well be a thing.or maybe sank like olympus has got talent,divinity factor,who knows lol the gods are said to be rather human in their behaviour afterall. But in all seriousness,yes im sure they'd probably try to bolster their number if possible.But the question is how.as ...

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I'm assuming the egyptian pantheon home dimension is ma'ip,unless ive missed somewhere that ma'ip is not where they originate.or im getting mixed up somehow(i'll check up on that later).and as for where it is.well dimensions are their own location,arent they? yeah i'd probably go with curse too,it m...

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i'd like to know WHERE osiris died.Im assuming he died in his home dimension,in order to leave a corpse.cos according to D&Gs if he died outside the home dimension,he can just be forced to manifest by 2 willing pantheon members.which makes me believe death at home is a true death as it is for de...

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im saying it SHOULD be in the abilities section and not in the place that it is.Its an ability of the race,put it where its supposed to be.so yes it poorly written.i got another complaint about how its written,but i'll get to that.i got sank more important to say first. im going to concede on the go...

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well,in the absence of actual rules im open to anything.i was also of the opinion that godlings were essentially gods to be,the next generation.like what happens when a god truly dies? maybe a godling powers up to fill the void? of course,osiris died,did anyone take his place...im not sure.but yeah,...

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Ok i think youre either missing the point of what im saying or ignoring it entirely.which is fine.you dont have to do things my way.but repeating what i already disagreed with and explained why i disagreed with doesnt change my opinion.yes ok i understand what youre saying,but ive already had an arg...

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no of course.I think its fine for GMs to allow whatever.I was merely stating my own feelings on the matter and the Rules that i could see.But anything goes as long as its fun and agreed on,is the be all rule in palladium. i actually really hate disagreeing with people,but it happens.although i dont ...

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i dont mind messy.i just like a bit of order to it lol

yeah rising to godhood is really only hinted at as a possibility and theres only a case or two mentioned here and there,with no mechanics.

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as always its all very messy.When i said demons/deevils are specific to hades/dyval....i should have said native.i do understand theyre found elsewhere.but the always reform in their native dimension. I guess im not going to find any satisfactory answers lol my thing is ive got quite alot of the boo...

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fair enough take. But i also disagree that it clearly states an additional power.if it was clear,it wouldnt be in contention. What im saying is it seems to clarify what im saying in the first part of the text, then clarifies what youre saying in the second part.But its all contained within the flavo...

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sure,there are demonic races all over the place,too many to count with new ones published fairly regularly.But i think the DEMONS of hades and the DEEVILS of dyval were are specific to those two dimensions as they have the whole discorporate and reform at home dimension thing going on.I think i read...

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ok,gods are like demons/deevils.if the god dies OUTSIDE his deific realm he can be forced to manifest back home in the deific realm,but only if two other pantheon members want him back.It doesnt state anywhere that they cant die in their own realm though.so like demons/deevils,if they die at home,on...

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well i hate to do it,dreicunan,as i prefer to be the agreeable sort.but i heavily disagree with you assessment of the pantheons demi-god and how many people,in my opinion,abuse it. It can NOT get super powers.as stated earlier,the revised CB 1 explicitly forbids supernatural,creatures of magic,men o...

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Hmmm,seems to me anyone could "make" a god,if you you have to do is set it up to be worshipped.Demonstrate your godlike triax magic to a group of primitives and you'll be climbing up the divine ranks in no time.as far as gods just coming into being from belief,i was mistaken in that.i misr...

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oh of course.like i said,pantheons demi gods cant actually have superpowers.Im just tryin to decide with that potential character,whether or not it would be appropriate as a rifts character,strictly speaking.im not sure i'd use HU demigods or immortals in rifts as those roles are already filled by r...

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so at the moment im examining SI/AIs and gods...ive looked through a number of books and im not entirely sure what to make of their relationship. It seems clear that AI/SIs are the "apex predator" from what ive read and that they seem to be the oldest beings/races in the megaverse,their or...

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infact if anyone has got any ideas for(non munchkin) NPCs it would save me a bit of work.im lookin at puttin together about 30 NPCs for if and when my group splinters.they dont have to be supers.they just have to be within the power level of the player characters i mentioned earlier.

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yeah mercury is a nice one.so is silver from AU.i was lookin at a vampire huntin HU demigod with APS silver.makes me wonder though,why they've done demigods and other immortals differently in HU compared to the other settings.i mean accordin to the conversion book,supernatural creatures/creatures of...

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actually you'd be number 12 and i think ive got enough players.back in the day i only had 6 players to contend with,so i think eleven is quite enough lol id definitely go for an APS power myself.theres so many of them and they offer a good amount of secondary abilities.some of them arent written esp...

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people really avoid APS alot? i wouldnt have thought that.Its a new group i joined recently,with the addition of my GF and an old gaming buddy of mine.I wont be startin the game for a few months yet,but yes,it will be in person.I havent roleplayed in over ten years though,let alone GM'd and its a ne...

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ok ive looked over what ive got of the characters and it seems i was mistaken...all powers accounted for.its just a couple missing OCCs and bearing in mind that ive decided to relax the OCC restrictions,some of the OCCs might change. so lets see what we got here then. first guy is an operator with t...

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funis always a factor.the point IS fun,which is why i try not to place limits on what my characters can get upto.the characters are the part of a shipment of splugorth slaves that were liberated by the characters in another GM's game.i was told about the adventure and asked what happened to this &qu...

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i mean i could modify stuff.i am the GM.But if i mod something up,im gonna mod something else down. But i guess its not a big thing.I got 10 other rifts supers with crazy powers.theyre all gonna cause probs for me in one way or another.this guy just basically wantin to be a spaceship is the least of...

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i like the sound of that,i'll definitely be waiting for you to post it.im not a big fan of on the fly construction.i prefer having definite rules that everyone can work from,otherwise the various different items that people dream up can end up being really imbalanced.of course its down to the GM to ...

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well a car doesnt need all the complex navigational equipment to know where its going.a spacecraft is a bit more difficult to point in the right direction without it.but i get what youre sayin.im probably bein a bit too fussy.its a flaw.i'll just let the player shoot off into space and tell the rest...

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oh no,of course i do agree with what you just said.it is possible with the right tools.i was just thinking in terms of what is possible for the character just based on his powers,in order to come to a decision about what he can become.and seein as the power doesnt give him the tools for the job,im n...

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well i posted here cos its a powers question,but its set on rifts earth.the problem with that is they dont have spacecraft and the power says he can turn into any vehicle he's seen.the other problem im having is the vehicle forms dont have any sensors,so space navigation would be next to impossible ...

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i am the GM for the game and im happy with his altered form providing environmental protection for passengers.i guess the actual question is,can he transform into spacecraft,as only terrestrial vehicles are given as example.and if not,how does he achieve escape velocity? superluminal flight is the b...

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hmm im not sure about rocket fists.i think escape velocity is about 25000mph so to reach escape velocity with rocket fists he'd need to be way over lvl 15,and he couldnt really use it in vehicle form,so couldnt take anyone with him.techno form is the basis of his idea,as is being a party vehicle of ...

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im working on a character with one of my players for my rifts campaign and we're not exactly sure how to do it. Hes set on the idea of flying to the moon.to do this hes using the techno-form power in conjunction with cloaking,so he can turn into a spacecraft and evade the killer satellites which won...

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i'd also like a rifts construction manual,detailing clear rules for all things that can be built.vehicles,robots,weapons,armour,building/fortifications,items etc technological and magical,with all the skills necessary,the rolls needed,the costs and time involved.with all the inconsistencies and ambi...

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so multiple palladium sources...i guess its just never been considered as an important skill for rifts earth,even though there are ALOT of low tech communities that would really on the skills of the humble smith.

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great,thats another source,thanks

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im reading the techno-smithy now and im gettin the ol rifts head throb lol so under the talisman smith,their ability is less powerful than the spell as far as i can tell.they can only instill lvl 6 spells(the spell lets you do lvl 8 ),but the skill description says they are not limited to those in t...

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ive actually come across the skill in mystic russia,under the mystic kuznya,this morning.But its under the class abilities and at a higher percentage of 60%.whats the percentage in northern hinterlands? i'm assuming the kuznyas skill is enhanced mystically,so if the hinterlands skill is the same as ...

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