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Darkmax wrote:he killed our sacred cow.... wait.. that's the hindu speaking.... :D


Oh, religion....don't even bother waiting for something(other than blood) to be spilled before fighting commences....

Actually, we have yet to see another species in Rifts say anything like...

"Beat on you humans? Why would we do that? We have far more important things to do, you know....like slaughter our cousins in holy crusade! We have no time to waste bothering with you bipedal mammalain barbarians!"
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heya :)

well i find this topic interesting. i am a gm in phaseworld and most of my players seem to prefer playing the uber RCCs available to them. i can understand why it is exciting at the beginning of a campaign in the phaseworld setting because all the new races are really cool and very powerful. personally i dislike most of the RCCs in the phaseworld books, especially prometheans and draconids. my problem is not the powerlevel but the complete lack of detailed information on culture, history and technological level which i believe is far more important than attribute bonuses and phase powers. i mean prometheans are genderless and have an "unknown" life span, so where do prometheans come from, easter eggs? center is build on phaseworld but we know next to nothing about the planet and the people that live there - odd!

i prefer humans because they are synonymous with possibility. first of all its easy to play human because most roleplayers are humans (i hope), humans are resourceful and adaptable, they usually have access to cool technology and most importantly there are almost no OCC restrictions!. no less than 25% of humans have psionic abilities and if you want to spice it up even more have players roll on the "special human traits and abilities" table on page 97 of the Lone Star world book. last but not least i have difficulty seeing why being an sdc being should be a problem at all, why should it be any different than being an sdc human in the rifts setting?

dont underestimate humans, a first level human mind melter with the power of bio-manipulation can easily defeat a 15th level Seljuk Galactic Tracer, its save or be paralysed... u can figure out the rest.

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Remeber even our own history is complicated enough,
so almost anything goes - even if we have detailed
information about the area and timeframe in question.

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But still, one of the most basic rules for survival on any planet is never to upset someone wearing black leather - This is why protesters against the wearing of animal skins by humans unaccountably fail to throw their paint over Hell's Angels.
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Actually, as I see we are the descendants of the cro-magnon humans,
and somehow, the "older" other human species, like neanderthals
(there were others, which just disapeared before written history,
like a small humanoid species, which bones were found somewhere
in Indonesia. According to Discovery Channel - not the most
reliable source :( - they left traces as new, as 12 thousand years old.)

So, it looks like we did our part to be _The_ dominant species
on Earth :D

But enough of this collective-guilty stuff. :D

I just wanted to say, that even our own history is complicated
enough, so however detailed information we have, there are
blank pages - or just hints and big "?"s, which make perfect
niches for almost any ideas.

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Plain genocide, natural extinction, assimilation... Probably
a little bit of all.

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Edit: Oh, do not forget contracted deseases.
But still, one of the most basic rules for survival on any planet is never to upset someone wearing black leather - This is why protesters against the wearing of animal skins by humans unaccountably fail to throw their paint over Hell's Angels.
- Terry Prachett

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That might also be traced to the reptilan part of our brains.
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Darkmax wrote:so it will be save to say some of us might have a bit of all the genes,....


Err... Do not think so. From what I saw (remember: Discovery
or NG) I guess that some of the - "recently" extinct - humanoid
species were - genetically as distant cousins as chimps or
orang-utans are relating to each other.

That means no interbreeding.

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Neanderthals maybe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis

Homo florensis probably not.

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duck-foot wrote:update: they have band the cloning of Human and ape genes, why becouse now it is possible to do so. i ust to love science. now sometimes it scares me.

Pretty sure that's only in certain countries. There is nothing stopping someone with enough money from setting up a lab in a third world country who is only happy to take their money to look the other way while they clone whatever they want.
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duck-foot wrote:update: they have band the cloning of Human and ape genes, why becouse now it is possible to do so. i ust to love science. now sometimes it scares me.


Err... Source?

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Ah... He wrote "band" but wanted to say "ban"?

Oh well... I do not mind, if due genetic engineering
a liver grown in a pig (for example) will save the
life of a relative of mine.

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Genetic engineering is like nuclear power.

Banning it altogether means that it will be used
for "illegal" reasons, and most people cannot have
access for the benefical aspects.

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But still, one of the most basic rules for survival on any planet is never to upset someone wearing black leather - This is why protesters against the wearing of animal skins by humans unaccountably fail to throw their paint over Hell's Angels.
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I think that the evenutal benefits will out weigh the negatives on genetic engineering. As we fully understand the potential of the gene themselves.
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Ah, I do not fear about cloned terrorists.

You know, it is far more economic to take
an adult individual, brainwash him/her
and there you have a one-shot operative.

Not too mention that we are reeeeaaallllyyyy
far from cloning like it was depicted in the

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6th_Day

movie.

At this point, we have problems creating
an artifical womb, not to mention creating
an adult specimen complete with knowledge.

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Dolly, the sheep is like the Gemini spacecraft.

The "6th Day" instant-cloning is like landing on
a planet of the Alpha Centauri.

Well... Not very likely to happen in the next
20 year.

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Being able to create clone soldiers... Well, it means
the tech is able to map a human brain within split
seconds.

But when we have a computer which is able to do it..
...then why not manufacture Repo Bots?

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We'll map the brain soon enough. Why rush everything. There is so much in life, by rushing you miss most of it!
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

HH....FIE
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Why be human you say? Because maybe you like to play an "oatmeal" kinda guy, plain, bland and mostly flavorless I say. Now maybe you like suger in your oatmeal, that would be a dwarf, or perhaps a little suger and milk and you've got an elf.

The only reason I can think of to play a basic human is to make a study of the various human conditions and mentality', other then that I can't give a good reason to ...I mean its not like I dont play one everyday.



It really is hard being an Orc in a man' world!
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And playing a human for someone new to a game system allows an easier transition to learning the game.
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

HH....FIE
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That has always been my goal to allow my players more fun and less hassles.
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

HH....FIE
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Not all of them. I know a few who are not greedy!
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

HH....FIE
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