Traveling in the Anvil.
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Greyaxe
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Traveling in the Anvil.
Suppose you are a citizen of the CCW born in the UWW carrying Hartigal weapons (Anvil galaxy) and have to travel through Alteese space on a ship registered in independent space. (this is actually going to happen in game so it is important to get input). The Alteese have a loose affiliation with the CCW, they themselves are independent and the shipment is of legally purchased cargo (weapons) being delivered to the Central Alliance, how do the various power blocks and patrol checks deal with this situation?
Sureshot wrote:Listen you young whippersnappers in my day we had to walk for 15 no 30 miles to the nearest game barefoot both ways. We had real books not PDFS and we carried them on carts we pulled ourselves that we built by hand. We had Thaco and we were happy. If we needed dice we carved ours out of wood. Petrified wood just because we could.
1, Being a CCW citizen (probably regardless whether you gave up UWW citizenship or not - usually you do not have to) means you must have
some kind of TVIA-issued permit to deal with arms, even outside CCW
territory.
This permit probably allows hardware shipped throught CCW space,
and either you are demanded to join a convoy (and pay for protection)
or just required to check in at several point in CCW space keeping
a schedule. This can even mean that your ship is monitored
constantly.
2, The Altess either let you use preset courses, with minimal
interaction, or deny space altogether (not likely). However,
leave preset trajectory and face consequences.
The Altess might be as "kind" to assign some form of automated
guide (think of a cross between C3PO and an assasin droid),
to be given back to authorities leaving Altess Dynasty space.
2a, They might be required to carry an Altess undercover agent to
CA space (or even further) - not neccessarily an Altess noble.
3, Central Alliance probably greets them, while NE might
set up an ambush (NOT in CCW or Altess space).
Adios
KLM
some kind of TVIA-issued permit to deal with arms, even outside CCW
territory.
This permit probably allows hardware shipped throught CCW space,
and either you are demanded to join a convoy (and pay for protection)
or just required to check in at several point in CCW space keeping
a schedule. This can even mean that your ship is monitored
constantly.
2, The Altess either let you use preset courses, with minimal
interaction, or deny space altogether (not likely). However,
leave preset trajectory and face consequences.
The Altess might be as "kind" to assign some form of automated
guide (think of a cross between C3PO and an assasin droid),
to be given back to authorities leaving Altess Dynasty space.
2a, They might be required to carry an Altess undercover agent to
CA space (or even further) - not neccessarily an Altess noble.
3, Central Alliance probably greets them, while NE might
set up an ambush (NOT in CCW or Altess space).
Adios
KLM
But still, one of the most basic rules for survival on any planet is never to upset someone wearing black leather - This is why protesters against the wearing of animal skins by humans unaccountably fail to throw their paint over Hell's Angels.
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Greyaxe
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KLM wrote:1, Being a CCW citizen (probably regardless whether you gave up UWW citizenship or not -
Adios
KLM
Funny you mention Gave Up citizenship. This brings me to another question, can you have multiple citizenships? Obviously in the CCW you will have two 1. your planitary citizxenship and 2 your CCW citizenship. But what about moving from one poere bloack to the next. Could you retain citizenship in one while gaining citizenship in another. Is there sufficent communication between teh power bloacks and independant nations to track citizenship accuratly?
Sureshot wrote:Listen you young whippersnappers in my day we had to walk for 15 no 30 miles to the nearest game barefoot both ways. We had real books not PDFS and we carried them on carts we pulled ourselves that we built by hand. We had Thaco and we were happy. If we needed dice we carved ours out of wood. Petrified wood just because we could.
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Darkmax wrote:I think moving your citizenship from CCW to TGE is close to impossible.
No it's not. It's called "defection".
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I think everyone is agreeing with each other. That's gotta be a first! I'm glad to see it happen once in a while. 
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
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Aramanthus
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I think it's cool to find a subject and discuss it and not argue over it! 
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
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as long as the traveller has proper papers for everything (or really good fakes.), the Altess are unlikely to do anything.
the Naruni, if they know of the shipment, are likely to pressure the goverment to stop it, but are unlikely to pull off much.
more likely, they will dispatch some mercenaries to pose as pirates (using non-naruni gear) and hit the shipment either as it leaves altess space, or just before it reaches the Central Alliance.
the naruni can't really do anything heavy handed politically without endangering relations with the Altess, the CCW, or the Central Alliance. if the shipment is legit, the naruni pulling strings to have it stopped in altess space (which likely would involve having the guy arrested), is likely to cause a legal battle with the CCW, and with the Central alliance. which is likely to derail one or more treaties and agreements, or at least sour relations.
unless the naruni can prove the guy is smuggling with evidence the altess AND CCW find valid and legal, there isn't much they can do. (and if it is legit, a proper frame would be hard.)
the Naruni, if they know of the shipment, are likely to pressure the goverment to stop it, but are unlikely to pull off much.
more likely, they will dispatch some mercenaries to pose as pirates (using non-naruni gear) and hit the shipment either as it leaves altess space, or just before it reaches the Central Alliance.
the naruni can't really do anything heavy handed politically without endangering relations with the Altess, the CCW, or the Central Alliance. if the shipment is legit, the naruni pulling strings to have it stopped in altess space (which likely would involve having the guy arrested), is likely to cause a legal battle with the CCW, and with the Central alliance. which is likely to derail one or more treaties and agreements, or at least sour relations.
unless the naruni can prove the guy is smuggling with evidence the altess AND CCW find valid and legal, there isn't much they can do. (and if it is legit, a proper frame would be hard.)
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Aramanthus
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That is true Gliiterboy. Although the Nuarni could forge some stuff to make them look guilty to all involved.
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
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Aramanthus
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They would if they could avoid implicating themselves in that little deal.
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"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."
"As you will it, your Grace."
HH....FIE
I guess outside CCW and Altess territory, the NE is
rather concerned with "punish" Hartigal.
They have an image to uphold -
"Our terms are favourable - but everyone pays. EVERYONE."
Adios
KLM
rather concerned with "punish" Hartigal.
They have an image to uphold -
"Our terms are favourable - but everyone pays. EVERYONE."
Adios
KLM
But still, one of the most basic rules for survival on any planet is never to upset someone wearing black leather - This is why protesters against the wearing of animal skins by humans unaccountably fail to throw their paint over Hell's Angels.
- Terry Prachett
Small font: use ctrl+c and copy it, so you can read. But since it is in small fonts, it is not important. I am not a NE salesperson.
- Terry Prachett
Small font: use ctrl+c and copy it, so you can read. But since it is in small fonts, it is not important. I am not a NE salesperson.