Playing an Elf

[drewkitty ~..~]

Besides telling him to read teh discription in the main book and watching/reading the LotR moives/books......hummmm.

Maybe read the drizzit books starting with sonjurn.

[Library Ogre]

Truthfully, I would suggest the Taltos books by Steven Brust, instead. I picture Palladium elves as being much less "Tolkien" and much more alien.

[Ridley]

About the only thing that i could tell you is to play an Elf elegently, almost bordering on being stuck up.

[Eryk Stormbright]

Besides telling him to read teh discription in the main book and watching/reading the LotR moives/books......hummmm.

Maybe read the drizzit books starting with sonjurn.

if your going to have him read the Drizzt books, i'd have him start with Homeland, or the Crystal Shard. but yes, LotR would also be another one i'd have him read or watch.

[RockJock]

I tend to see Elves as the aristocrats who have lost their place in the world, though many seem to love nature, and the wilderness. There are many rangers, druids etc, plus pocket groups like the Forest Elves in Western Empire that are even more in touch with their green side.

[Guest]

I treat elves as targets to be hunted down and stripped of their clothing, so they can be inspected for magical tattoos that will help me get back to my own world...

[Northern Ranger]

In my mind, elves view themselves as the nobility of the world of Palladia, and don't understand how the other races can't see the same things. They are capable of great compassion toward other races, being more accepting of them (with the exception of dwarves, of course) but can also be prone to racism, since they have little tolerance for the chaotic races (orcs, ogres, etc., etc.) They are the most physically attractive of the core races, and I think their attitudes and philosophies reflect this. They believe they are the chosen race of Palladia, and as long as no one actively denies this in their presence, they are gracious and patient (until given reason not to be.)

Also, the fact that they are so long lived gives them a more "omnipotent" outlook on things. They believe that because they have lived for so long there is little that can surprise them. So naturally, when they are surprised, it upsets them. This also gives quite an opportunity for rounding out a character, as an elves lifespan grants them the ability to study a great number of skills and even take on some new OCC's. It is not unusual (in my games) to find elves more than three hundred years old who have studies mulitple OCC's, because after a time even someone with the patience of an elf would get bored with their current job and move on to something else.

Though I tend to not play them as often as humans, I do think that elves are a rich and thoroughly enjoyable race to play. Their lifespan and history of violence is a great catalyst for adventures. Throw one into a group with a dwarf and you've got endless hours of enjoyment as they each try to annoy the other to no end. (It is entirely possible the dwarf might even be pushed to violence, something else that the elves just don't understand, being largely pacifist by nature.)

[Library Ogre]

I treat elves as targets to be hunted down and stripped of their clothing, so they can be inspected for magical tattoos that will help me get back to my own world...

Ah, yet another Hunter of Elves...

[Guest]

I treat elves as targets to be hunted down and stripped of their clothing, so they can be inspected for magical tattoos that will help me get back to my own world...

Ah, yet another Hunter of Elves...

Fear my "Cannon of Miracles."

[drewkitty ~..~]

I treat elves as targets to be hunted down and stripped of their clothing, so they can be inspected for magical tattoos that will help me get back to my own world...

Sounds like a Anime I know of....

[Adam of the Old Kingdom]

here is how I "play" Elves


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RACK OF ELF WITH NATIVE MINT AND MACADAMIA CRUST SERVED WITH SOUTHWIND PLUM JUS
Absolutely delicious!

Ingredients
4 five-cutlet racks of Elf trimmed of all fat and sinew
1 tablespoon Timiro mustard
5g native mint, crushed fine (15g = half ounce so calculate the amount you will need for 5g)
120g (4 ozs) macadamia nut chips
120g (4 ozs) bread crumbs

Method
Mix dry ingredients together. Seal the racks of Elf in a hot pan and spread the mustard onto the meat of the racks and coat with the dry mix. Place in an oven preheated and cook for 10-15 minutes.

Jus
Quarter cup Southwind Plum Jam
Quarter cup red wine
1 cup veal stock

Mix jam and wine and then heat mixture to reduce to a third. Add stock. Reduce again until about a third and strain through muslin or cheesecloth.

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but more to the point.
The Timiro book showed what happened to the elves who stayed in "civilised" society.
Parts of eatern teritory and Woldfen empire info have elves in communes, still doing what they do best.

living long lives, slightly out of touch with the world around them.
looking at their attributes (MA I think) shows what happens when you have plenty of time on your hands to study and contemplate things. even the fast burning lives of humans are different adn to them you seem aloof and some what uncaring. maybe you see a bigger picture. a longer term plan.
this could be the core of many Elf PC's. the ones that feel the need to be active in the world.

the PB elves are some what based on D&D elvves which are based on Tolkien. not havign much contact with non-tolkien elves, just look at the flavour text provided and think about how a seemingly imortal person would handle any task.....

[The Dark Elf]

Elves are regal and arrogant.

They are one of the eldest races of the palladium world and due to their longevity most can study various forms of magic or other skills/abilities and master several. They are extremely good looking with the possibilty to be as beautiful as the gods. that would make me arrogant for sure!

It was one of their kind that enchanted the old ones slumber. Pretty impressive for a mortal.

I dont have elves attuned to any magic or nature expect where theyve dedicated their life to it. which also adds to the disrespect of those who choose the easy path of sellin there souls etc for power.

[Goliath Strongarm]

*elegant man steps onto stage, wearing a smoking jacket, with a pipe in hand, and plops into a overstuffed chair in front of the fireplace*

Ladies and gentlebeings, tonight I read to you from Goliath Strongarm's Guide to dealing with the inferior races of the world, OR, "I'm a minotaur, and you're not, so nah nah nah naaaaah"

Chapter 1, elves.

The elf personality has 2 traits common to all members of the species.
*Trait number one is: "I can wait". Due to their lifespans, and elf is quite capable of sitting aside and contemplating the fuzz in his navel for a century or so, while plans come to fruition. Fortunately, this gives the rest of us plenty of time to stop those plans.
*Trait two is a bit more perception based- "I'm better looking than you, and I know it". Elves, as a species, are graceful of movement, smooth of skin, and fairly attractive to themselves and humans. Even other, more intelligent races, recognize the natural beauty in the elves. Unfortunately, this tends to make the elves a bit arrogant.
*Many elves tend to be arrogant, because of their known 'beauty', and the fact that they can outlive many other races. Fortunately, there is any easy fix for this arrogance.
-step 1: take a length of chain. Wrap it around the elf's neck.
-step 2: tighten the chain. A lot. Once the elf's head is turning purple, it's tight enough.
-step 3: Take a large, blunt object. As a minotaur, I reccommend a small tree, however, I realize not everyone can use one effectively. Smithy hammers also work well. As do frying pans.
-step 4: proceed to beat the bright purple face of the elf, until it's a fine pastey goo.
-step 5: dig a hole, shove in the remains, and refill the hole.
-step 6: hire a necromancer to animate the elf's corpse, and have it perform perverse and disgusting acts with the dwarves you keep locked away in cells (see chapter 2: dwarves).

*closing the book, our host looks into the camera* Any questions? I hope not. I don't ever want to read from this book again! This is as bad as that book "How to Serve Man"!

[Northern Ranger]

Jeez, there's a whole bunch of "elf lovers" on this thread!

[Library Ogre]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

Not that he'd see it until after Open House if I did...

[Natalya]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

Not that he'd see it until after Open House if I did...

I'd prefer to see a book instead of an article....unless you make several articles to go in multiple rifters.

The problem is that the main book skimmed over the species, giving the basics but leaving it to the players and GM to figure out a lot of things. Which is great for someone supremely confident, but not so great for the rest of us that are a little shaky with getting into the mindset of a different species, especially when one person's view clashes with another person at the same table.

Look at the amount of space devoted to the Danzi compared to the Elves. Look at how much richer and colorful Wolfen became when another book expanded upon the race. I'd love to see an in-depth book about the civilization of the subterranean races, because I'm shaky on that and would love supplemental information.


Plus, I'll admit. I have ex-AD&D players. Do you know how hard it is when they see the title "Dwarf" and assume they already know everything? But they don't say that out loud...so you find out, in the middle of a game, weeks later, with an obvious the-character-would-know-better action or statement that you then have to pause the game and correct the player on the character knowledge. Ugh.

[Library Ogre]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

I would definitely purchase a series of "Races of Palladium" supplements! (incase the marketing department is listen)

It wouldn't be a series; I'm not planning on writing "The Complete Book of Wolfen". Rather, it would be a book that would examine each race in greater detail. A section on trolls, one on ogres, etc. Examining the major races of the world and how they tick, maybe unique OCCs and skills that work well, but not a single book for each one (or even groups of them).

[Library Ogre]

Quite frankly, I don't think I can fill a book with as much crap as the old D&D books did. I'm figuring more along the lines of 10-15 pages per race, not hundreds.

Elves will not have cybernetics, be immune to disease, heat, and cold, and have a slew of psychic abilities... they'll be elves, but they're not going to be Tolkienian demi-gods.

[Goliath Strongarm]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

I would definitely purchase a series of "Races of Palladium" supplements! (incase the marketing department is listen)

It wouldn't be a series; I'm not planning on writing "The Complete Book of Wolfen". Rather, it would be a book that would examine each race in greater detail. A section on trolls, one on ogres, etc. Examining the major races of the world and how they tick, maybe unique OCCs and skills that work well, but not a single book for each one (or even groups of them).

Now, I know that Balgor had some stuff on a couple of tribes of minotaur. It was hogwash! I had better see pages and pages on the powerful race that is truly the best on the world!! Forget those loons who still worship the OO. There's freaks like that in every race. Most of us are calm, cool, large axe and blunt weapon wielding honorable warriors. A few magic users.

But, I STRESS... there had better be minotaurs!

[Library Ogre]

Now, I know that Balgor had some stuff on a couple of tribes of minotaur. It was hogwash! I had better see pages and pages on the powerful race that is truly the best on the world!! Forget those loons who still worship the OO. There's freaks like that in every race. Most of us are calm, cool, large axe and blunt weapon wielding honorable warriors. A few magic users.

But, I STRESS... there had better be minotaurs!

What now? I haven't heard of these things before. Are you sure they're not something you've made up?

[RockJock]

I like the idea of a race book, and could even be used to somehow update some of the Jungle Races and Occs hint hint?

[Adam of the Old Kingdom]

I'd love to get a "Rift Dimention book: Fantasy Races" by Mr Nexx, it would rawk.


snarkyness asside, I too would buy a PF race/species book.

[Eryk Stormbright]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

I would definitely purchase a series of "Races of Palladium" supplements! (incase the marketing department is listen)

It wouldn't be a series; I'm not planning on writing "The Complete Book of Wolfen". Rather, it would be a book that would examine each race in greater detail. A section on trolls, one on ogres, etc. Examining the major races of the world and how they tick, maybe unique OCCs and skills that work well, but not a single book for each one (or even groups of them).

that's something i'd definitely buy, would you be pulling every race out of Every book and expanding on them, including the "monster" races?

[Adam of the Old Kingdom]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

I would definitely purchase a series of "Races of Palladium" supplements! (incase the marketing department is listen)

It wouldn't be a series; I'm not planning on writing "The Complete Book of Wolfen". Rather, it would be a book that would examine each race in greater detail. A section on trolls, one on ogres, etc. Examining the major races of the world and how they tick, maybe unique OCCs and skills that work well, but not a single book for each one (or even groups of them).

that's something i'd definitely buy, would you be pulling every race out of Every book and expanding on them, including the "monster" races?

he already said he was doing elves.

[Library Ogre]

Arrrgh... this is making me want to write an article on Elves in Palladium, now, or try pitching a "Races of Palladium" book to Kevin.

I would definitely purchase a series of "Races of Palladium" supplements! (incase the marketing department is listen)

It wouldn't be a series; I'm not planning on writing "The Complete Book of Wolfen". Rather, it would be a book that would examine each race in greater detail. A section on trolls, one on ogres, etc. Examining the major races of the world and how they tick, maybe unique OCCs and skills that work well, but not a single book for each one (or even groups of them).

that's something i'd definitely buy, would you be pulling every race out of Every book and expanding on them, including the "monster" races?

Guys, at this point, it's an idle thought I've had, not a definite plan and certainly not an accepted proposal. What I would likely do is the races from the main book, and other iconic races from Palladium... so you're probably not going to see a lot on your favorite obscure race from Yin Sloth or the Land of the Damned, but the relatively well-established Palladium races, like bearmen or gromek, or maybe even the moo-cows... the ones that are part of the Palladium world, fairly wide-spread, and long established, would get covered.

[dragon_blaze_99]

I don't play as much PF as I would like (my player are into HU) but I have always run the elven people more like the Obsidian Trilogy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_Trilogy by Mercedes Lackey and James Mallory also a great read for any fantasy fan

[Northern Ranger]

A races book? No one else has thought of this before? (I know I didn't.) this would be cool. And quite honestly, I can't think of a better person to write it. (Still looking forward to Mysteries of Magic, by the way.)

[Goliath Strongarm]

Guys, at this point, it's an idle thought I've had, not a definite plan and certainly not an accepted proposal.

At this point, you've practically promised it to us. What's the release date anyway?

Probably around the same time as the old kingdom books... which means, 1995... wait.... dagnabbit!