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The Normans LOSE their attempt to take over Britain....

John Smith imports cannibis, not tobacco, back to Europe, from Virginia...

Mystics in pre-Industrial Age England discover a dimensional gate(Stonehenge, perhaps?) to a habitable version of Mars(or Venus)...Britain immediately begins colonizing these 'ether kingdoms' with a combination of 'gentleman adventurers' and penal colonists....Other European nations begin wondering where all the English wealth is coming from...and where all its political disidents are disappearing to....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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I hate to tell you this Taalismn......Canabis ( a form of it) was used and grown in places in Europe. It's portayal on the HBO series of Rome was actually fairly accurate. It was called hemp.
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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I stand corrected....

Holland, rather than engage in diasterous 'Tulipmania' actually cultivates a lower-powered(no less miraculous) strain of the 'White Rose' that the Order of the White Rose would make so famous in Madhaven....European wars begin over possession and cultivation of the 'heaven-sent' plants, making the English War of Roses look like a schoolyard spat...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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The Black Plague that sweeps Europe leaves a percentage of survivors phsyically mutated(some with superhuman abilities)...it is, in fact, the Tarlok 'super-plague' from Skraypers, brought to Earth by a Tarlok scout ship....But are the Tarlok far behind?
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Millenium Trees rule the Earth...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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How about mice chase eveything except women, who fearlessly protect their husbands and children from the mice.
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Atlantis never disappears stays on earth
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How about an earth which never lost it's ley lines because of Atlantis's experiment?
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Dinosaurs and mammals never evolved---Intelligent bacteria rule the Earth!


Human culture is irrevocably contaminated when a galactic truck stop is established on Earth...human society becomes a bunch of dumpster-scroungers and parking lot beggers.....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Talking about gestalt minds!
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Well, we already have a criminal class in Congress....


All humans develop 'short-jump' temporal powers enabling them to view the past and even make 24-hour 'backspaces' to attempt to alter the outcome of events....Longer and multiple 'jumps' are possible, but take a terrible toll on the human psyche and pyschiology....Whole new crimes evolve, and complex new social systems of relationships. economics, and justice emerge....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Aviation is by giant pigeon, water travel by giant turtle...Government is by casting the I-Ching and other prophetic devices...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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How about one were the old one were never defeated and they rule the megaverse. Your PCs come through now they have to start a rebellion.
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After Atlantis collapsed, rather than flee with the ebbing of magic, several of the Pantheons make a concerted effort to save civilization on Earth(rather than leave it in the hands of befuddled and bloodied refugees who are quickly absorbed into the continental barbarian populations....)

The Nightlords invade Earth in the aftermath of Atlantis...

A renegade Dominator(or Genesplicer) seeks to make up for past atrocities in his life by 'grooming' Humanity via introductions of high-tech and/or genetic engineering into a race of galactic champions or unwitting minions to bring peace and order to the Megaverse/off his (many) rivals and enemies...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Humanity forced to live underground by solar radiation storms and intense extremes of weather....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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How about Humanity forced to to take to the sky because of the polluted land?
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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An alien colony vessel 'seeds' North America with alien lifeforms, making European colonization all the more difficult...and further complicating the evolution of the natural sciences(by introducing nonterrestrial life that defies classification as belonging to known Earth group animals)...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Native Americans: "Hey, palefaces! Got anything bigger than those firesticks? We need something heavy enough to take out them big many-legged bark-beetle things! "

Situation gets worse of the alien colonists are also around....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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To add to the Human arsenal, the Humans have Nicola Tesla's EMP generators...the machines have allegedly been experimenting with biological warfare...


In the alternate, an all-machine society erupts in civil war(no, it's NOT Cybertron)...the weapons of choice are a new class of self-reproducing, self-repairing, organic constructs with mutational capabilities....deceptively weak as individuals, but showing a gift for unpredictability the machines can't match.....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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The Chinese WON the Opium Wars and kicked the British and other drug-peddlers(including American and European merchants) out...Chinese later invade Afganistan/Pakistan intent on eliminating the scourge of opium....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Japan colonized by Muslims sweeping through lower Asia....(great expansion taking place from west to east, rather than east to west towards Spain...)
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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duck-foot wrote:Rome never falls and conquers all of Europe and Eastern Asia.
Japan or China conqurers all of Western Asia as well as the Middle East and Southern Asia. The two super powers go to war, simply over the fact that they oth feel threatened by each other.


Ever read Kirk Mitchell's three-book alternate history series? Started with 'Procurator', 'New Barbarians', and 'Cry Republic'...has a Rome that invented steam engines and electrical power angling for global power with a similarly advanced Chinese Empire in North America(though more attention is focused on the Romans versus the Aztecs, and on internal Roman scheming and squabbling)...Excellent books if you can find them and the cover paintings of Procurator, showing Roman land-barges (tanks) trekking through a snow-covered landscape are of Parkinson-quality...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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All Humans are extinct from the universe except your PC's.
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how do you figure farscape earth still existed
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being the only human in a settng is one thing knowing that you are the last of your species is another. The effect it would have on your moral would be crushing.
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Yes but he knew that he was not the last of the human race big difference
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Everyone on Earth learns that indeed they DO have an evil twin...or that there IS one perfect mate(and ONLY one) for them out there...provided your perfect match doesn't drop dead first......both globnal relief and chaos insue...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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A world without Star Trek....

Don't underestimate the sociological impact of Gene Roddenberry... :D
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Somebody else would be pulling on their boots on television...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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First ther no Humans in the 3 Galaxies,thers 2 wormholds linked to the Milky way,one in CCW,s space and one in TGE,s space,they go to the Gamma and Delta Quadrant in are Galaxy.

Ther was a Dominators,who have prevent races from becoming Space-faring for thousand of years.
They turn on each other and are now down to 15.

A Century ago the CCW and the TGE have showed up.

In the Earth year 1937,Some CCW and TGE,s ships were fighting,a Dominator displace them to Sol,where they crached landed on earth,In the US,UK,France,Germany,Japan and USSR.

The Gov of each countries are in a Race to understand the Alien Technology,This have made a balance of power,no country will attack another until they have a edge over the others.

What you thing?
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World War 2 triggers a number of Rifts on Earth....Romanized Wolfen emerge in Italy, startling reconstruction Allies there....Japan is beset by oni hordes pouring from incursions around Hiroshima and Nagasaki....Japanese veterans and American occupation forces are forced to join forces to fight the (thankfully SDC) monsters...Likewise, Allies in Germany face gargoyles....Reports emerge of similar monsters and aliens cropping up in the American Midwest and elsewhere, while Canadian officials investigate the remains of an alien 'swarm; that apparently starved to death in the Calgary wilds...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Darkmax wrote:ok.... we found evidence that humans did not evolve entirely on Earth... but on Mars.


H.Beam Piper and James Hogan did good treatments of this theme(though in the latter case modern humans are the result of genetic engineering with protohominid stock taken to the 4th planet, Minerva, by a race of alien giants...)

Aftermath of Invasion....Earth is recovering from a period of enslavement by aliens...Now the battered and bloodied remanents of humanity must contend with a civilization in shambles, national and ethnic identities that have been hammered, and the knowledge that large numbers of humans and the artifacts of the past have been sold across the cosmos...and pockets of alien overseers, other slaves, and warmachines still lurk in the solar system...Teams of Indianna Jones-style 'relic hunters' spread out into space on ramshackle cast-off starships left behind by the departed overlords to seek out and return valuable artifacts from Earth's past, when its people were their own....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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What if the world we had the ability to travel to the alternate universes? And did so on a regular basis!
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Rather than a solid sphere, the Earth is a succession of smaller and larger broad rings tilted at angles to each other and rotating, around the molten core like a minutaure sun, the whole assembly on a planetary orbit around the Sun...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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When the Rifts are Released,All the Space Stations in orbit got rifted,teleported to a Alternate earth in 1938,160years from ther time.

Listened in Radio communication,they discover ther in 1938.

Each Station send down a shuttle down to make contact with this time version of ther government,(OH allmost forgot the Japanese Station got destroy durating the teleport).

So the US,s Shuttle go to America,the Euro,s Shuttle go to France and The Russian go to the USSR.

Ther was a Fight the US and Euro stations team-up destoring the Russian one.the USSR only having the Shuttle to wokr with now.

After WW2,the US made a deal with the UK/French,s Alliance.
The Boost of Knowledge and tech got both into Space ,The Ussr was slower in understanding the tech,So the US and the Alliance spit both the Moon 1965 and Mars 1977 in between them.

by 1980 the tech level of all 3 were equel,ther was a balance power between them.

Ther was a Pact to make Earth Neutral ground and thers a race to the Outer System.
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The Japanese space colony was NOT destroyed....but transposed into a dimension where a primitive Humanity is menaced by giant fire-breathing dragons(predatory intelligence)...With their high technology, the space travellers would appear as gods...or liberating angels? Samurai Dragonhunters from Space!
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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Mecha-Zilla mechdrop from Orbit!
Wait for the Rhodan-class armed aerodyne shuttles....
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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That is quite funny! Zilla! :lol:
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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An alternate Earth where the Nazis now hold dominance over the Earth..
Now drop a regiment or brigade of mixed-ethnicity Coalition soldiers into it...
"We can't abide by these losers treating HUMANS like that!!!!"
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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That is an interesting idea Taalismn!


What about a world here intelligent life evolved in the water and remained there.
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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E Conan Doyle's 'Horror of the Heights'....There's a vicious and violent ecology in the upper layers of our atmosphere...complete with predators....very dangerous for high altitude fliers...
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"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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That would be an interesting idea for a world!
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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A world where dinosaurs never evolved much beyond the small therapod stage, and mammals emerged through direct competition, rather than in the aftermath of a mass extinction event...
Without much of a fossil record of giant beasts not seen in the modern age, paleontology and evolution science might have been greatly delayed, and more easily smothered under other theories and theologies...
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The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
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That could lead to the Giantism which the dinosaur demonstarted to have been carried out by the mammals. Whach would pose some interesting what if's in evolution!
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Another interesting thoughts on it!
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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And imagine the size of the fly swatters you'd need?
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"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

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Heaven and Hell are franchises competing in the open marketplace...and ypu though the Burger King-MacDonalds/Coca-Cola/Pepsi-Cola wars were bad.....
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Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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The ten most powerful Nations are Absolut and constitutional Monarchy.

In this Reality the US is call the Royal States of America,it have a Parliament.
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After Vietnam, returning U.S. servicemen stage a coup...California is declared a 'Free Republic' by the 'Flower Power Generation' with a drug policy mirroring Holland's.....
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Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"

--------Rudyard Kipling
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What about a world where the only entertainment is experiencing nature. There is no movie, no novels, no RPGs in any form.
"Your Grace," she said, "I have only one question. Do you wish this man crippled or dead?"

"My Lady," the protector of Grayson told his Champion, "I do not wish him to leave this chamber alive."

"As you will it, your Grace."

HH....FIE
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