GM's when do you....

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Fri May 11, 2007 8:22 am

A good GM does not kill a player. Players kill themselves.

They do so by talking trash to the NPC when they shouldn't, standing and fighting when they should run, sacrificing themselves for a noble cause, or otherwise doing something they shouldn't.

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Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:16 am

K20A2_S wrote:
Subjugator wrote:A good GM does not kill a player. Players kill themselves.

They do so by talking trash to the NPC when they shouldn't, standing and fighting when they should run, sacrificing themselves for a noble cause, or otherwise doing something they shouldn't.

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While I absolutely believe this, sometimes that NPC just happens to roll that 20 and take his head off.....

You should always give the PC's a chance to win, or a chance to flee.......if they're reluctant then they deserve it. Some PC's just always love to fight to the death and like to see how close they can get.....

That's when they've killed themselves.

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Shadyslug · Unread post by **Shadyslug** » Fri May 11, 2007 7:13 pm

In all my gaming, I've only lost 2 characters to death...one was because I had a GM who just couldn't handle the power of my PC and had to cheat to kill him, not to mention my PC thwarted far too many plans...and the other was self-sacrifice...

Giant2005 · Unread post by **Giant2005** » Fri May 11, 2007 8:46 pm

Beatleguise wrote:NO character is to powerful, or unbalancing. There is always an NPC somewhere, that is worse.

Take a look at the quasi-legal munchkin thread :demon:

I'm sure you could find some characters that could be too powerful and unbalancing.

Shadyslug · Unread post by **Shadyslug** » Sat May 12, 2007 12:54 am

Legion wrote:
Shadyslug wrote:...one was because I had a GM who just couldn't handle the power of my PC and had to cheat to kill him, not to mention my PC thwarted far too many plans...

GMs do not cheat

Of course we do... :-D

verdilak · Unread post by **verdilak** » Sat May 12, 2007 1:24 am

Shadyslug wrote:
Legion wrote:
Shadyslug wrote:...one was because I had a GM who just couldn't handle the power of my PC and had to cheat to kill him, not to mention my PC thwarted far too many plans...

GMs do not cheat

Of course we do...

Yes, we GM's cheat alot, but usually in favor of the players.... unless they just really deserve it :lol:

Ravenwing · Unread post by **Ravenwing** » Sat May 12, 2007 1:45 am

I once dropped a mountian on a group pf players, wiping them from the face of the(unnamed Game world here). Why you ask? Am I a horriable GM? Not fair you say? Nope, sometimes PC's and there players are simply idiots. The do or say things to annoy the great and powerful gaming gods, and must be reminded of there lowly place in the world. That and they pulled on Odins beard.

Vinny · Unread post by **Vinny** » Sat May 12, 2007 3:25 am

Death only results if the character does something really, really stupid.

Mech-Viper Prime · Mon May 14, 2007 12:59 pm

Semisonic9 wrote:Yeah, but, regarding death...it's a game. You can always come back! Sometimes with new and frightening powers.

~Semi

done that a few times, never leave a man behind unless you know he is dead

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:20 pm

The Sovereign wrote:
unknownhero wrote:It's never a good thing killing someone. My cousins and I have tried killing each other on many bases lol. It's fun. But those are just for fun, or when we don't have a goal, we go around and fight things for no reason. I had a Destroy' borg my cousin tried to kill for about 5 years. I ended dying from saving a New member of my family who was try to be a hero but was way out of his class. So i died saving him. My cousin and I have made some what of a House rule lol you got 3 lives. after that its over. The truth is you can GM open roll ( letting everyone see how the GM rolls) or so do it behind a folder. When they wanna see me roll then its straight roll, if they die there dead. Because in most case I Decide if he gets hit or not. Member your the GM if you want him dead then he's dead, but theres should never be a reason to kill a PC unless he's sleeping with you man/women then go all out. lol i got mad at someone who called me a crappy DM? Fawker called me a Dungeon Master... i don't play D&D i freakin hate it. so he played a female elf , who didn't know what wrong with taking off your helmet in Chi-town area. I team of CS rape and kill him.. I never knew why he wanted to play a women lol. but he never played again... I wonder why.

...no...words.

Wow... the illiteracy almost matches the idiocy...

Ravenwing · Unread post by **Ravenwing** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:44 pm

unknownhero wrote:It's never a good thing killing someone. My cousins and I have tried killing each other on many bases lol. It's fun. But those are just for fun, or when we don't have a goal, we go around and fight things for no reason. I had a Destroy' borg my cousin tried to kill for about 5 years. I ended dying from saving a New member of my family who was try to be a hero but was way out of his class. So i died saving him. My cousin and I have made some what of a House rule lol you got 3 lives. after that its over. The truth is you can GM open roll ( letting everyone see how the GM rolls) or so do it behind a folder. When they wanna see me roll then its straight roll, if they die there dead. Because in most case I Decide if he gets hit or not. Member your the GM if you want him dead then he's dead, but theres should never be a reason to kill a PC unless he's sleeping with you man/women then go all out. lol i got mad at someone who called me a crappy DM? Fawker called me a Dungeon Master... i don't play D&D i freakin hate it. so he played a female elf , who didn't know what wrong with taking off your helmet in Chi-town area. I team of CS rape and kill him.. I never knew why he wanted to play a women lol. but he never played again... I wonder why.

Thats just wrong..... on so many levels. And not just the writing skill either. I know I've made more then my fair share of grammar,spelling and such, but that made like no sense. Can we get a redraft?

And why would the CS squad( I assume it was a squad) rape a d-bee? She's a freaking non-human freak o'nature. No proper minded human supremist is gonna want that.

Mithrindir · Unread post by **Mithrindir** » Mon May 14, 2007 3:19 pm

I have been a player and have died before. got up to like 5th or 6th level as cyber knight. I really liked and enjoyed that character. How ever. I was at the wrong place at the wrong time and missed the saving through and then the ground I was on became a river of Lava... Then Bloop there just was no saving me.

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:33 pm

Subjugator wrote:A good GM does not kill a player. Players kill themselves.

They do so by talking trash to the NPC when they shouldn't, standing and fighting when they should run, sacrificing themselves for a noble cause, or otherwise doing something they shouldn't.

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Agreed, although I tell players every time I enter combat with then the they are F****ng dead man, your toast. I just gets the heart pumping a little.

Ravenwing · Unread post by **Ravenwing** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:55 pm

Semisonic9 wrote:Vote for K20..."or the terrorists win!"

~Semi

No way am I letting Lazlo win!! :lol:

demos606 · Unread post by **demos606** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:11 pm

I can honestly say I've never set out to kill off a PC but I've also never given them a free pass on doing something stupid either. Push a bad position when everything in the world says you should just leave it alone and you deserve the gruesome things that happen to your characters.

Library Ogre · Unread post by **Library Ogre** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:57 am

Galen wrote:First, I've seen this many times on the boards, but I'm not quite sure what it means. What is 'meta-gaming'? I thought it was a person (usually the GM) steering the game along a particlular story. Not so-much rail-roading as keeping the big picture and a larger storyline in mind.

Meta-gaming is when you start thinking, not as your character, but as a person playing a game, so assuming there are game-like solutions to problems. (e.g. There has to be a way out of this ambush, since the GM wouldn't want to kill us all.)

GMs, IMO, are some of the worst metagamers, when they start insisting on metagaming solutions and challenges to problems.... old D&D modules were really bad about this. Inhabited keeps which were trapped every which way, despite these being doors and corridors that would be traveled regularly (How do you actually live in this place?)