Alternate Dimensions

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:39 pm

Back to the top with you!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:45 pm

duck-foot wrote:what if earth right now was being protected and not harrassed (as they usually do) by a group of energy beings

What if they overdid it and we were all blissed out lotus-eaters...until they day our 'guardians' went away....?

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:49 pm

What if those same aliens were those little grey aliens with the large black eyes.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:29 pm

What if we met technologically superior aliens....and they were JERKS?!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:40 pm

What if the Splugorth were simply annoyingly good-natured and well-intentioned dogoodniks? Real examples of 'Don't Judge a Book by its Cover' hideous beings with hearts of gold. The Kreeghor are one of their great failures(ruffians they tried to upraise and civilize, only to discover the Kreeghor just acquired the means to spread their badness further abroad), the Kydians are a massive interdimensional Goodwill/Salvation Army/Peace Corps , the Kittani grateful refugees from the Mechanoids, Eyes of Eylor are cloned(or else voluntarily given up to allow their motherworld to see the megaverse), and the Zembhak used in TW devices are all effectively voluntary organ-donors(donated by their families after brain death)...
Atlantis on Earth is effectively the Switzerland of the Atlantic, kept save from ruthless exploitation by evil forces on Earth, while Splynncryth, the big softie, contemplates how best to help all the innocents on Earth. In the meantime, he allows private adventurers and aide workers to travel to the lands of Rifts Earth, assessing the situation, and bringing by(sometimes forcibly, for their own good)the poor, traumatized, downtrodden beings to be re-educated, fed, schooled, housed, and offered sanctuary in better places; such as safe havens offworld. Splynncryth is nonplussed by the violent reactions the parochial peoples of Earth have to his kind...but in time they'll come to realized why the rest of the Megaverse regards 'Splugorth' as synonymous with 'Saint'....
(ARCHIE-3 still hates the Splugorth...but here because the Splugorth refuse to put HIM in charge of the North America relief effort and because the Splugorth missionaries preach a megaversal philosophy of cooperation and idealism that threaten what A3 regards as the American Way he is pledged to support and defend....sort of a Galactic uber-Communisn running up against his patriotic programming...)

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:15 am

He will soon enough. Just be patient.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:38 am

Yep....trying to adapt the more violent/gruesome/demeaning forms of Biowizardry into benign forms usable by a massive galactic organization of ancient goodniks is a little daunting....

Maybe the Chest Amalgamate(or whatever that beastie that turns you into a walking timebomb is called) simply turns you into a bed of pretty flowers with a really blissed-out personality....

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:38 am

A week after Louie16 becomes king of France,refomes the French Political system into a parliament with a hereditary House of Lords and a elected House of Commes.

Chaning the From of Government allow france to go through the Hard Times and the French Revolution nener happed.

How to you think this version of France be now?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:30 pm

Expanding on the 'Good Splugorth' idea...

"Good Intentions, viewed from the right perspective, can be indistinguisable from Bad Intentions."

Alternate Splugorth---The Good Splugorth

“Look, I’m really grateful for the rescue from the Demon Sea....and for patching me up afterwards...Thank you all so very much, ma’am...er...I mean SIR!...Kinda hard for me to tell there, sorry....But I’m fine now....can you give me back my guns...and my pants?”
----Anonymous Refugee on Atlantis.

This presupposes that the Splugorth, instead of being historical evil beings, have been the opposite, but less extreme, alignments----In this altaverse, the name ‘Splugorth’ is synonymous with ‘Samaritan’, and they have been known for millenia as a visually hideous, but soul-set, force of good and charity. Evil Splugorth do exist, and their going against the grain of their species makes them ironically even MORE horrifying than their evil mirrors in most of the Megaverse, as well as a continuing lesson and source of shame for their kin.
On Rifts Earth, the Splugorth are on hand to attempt the best way to save the planet from itself, while preserving the enormous opportunities that Rifts Earth’s new status as a dimensional nexus presents both to their organization and to the peoples of Earth. They’re building up their knowledge and their bases of power, including what they hope to be forward staging areas for a global relief effort in Europe and North America.
The Splugorth are still feared and hated by many of the peoples of Earth, because they’re alien, they appear as an invading and occupying force, because they are arrogant and condescending, and because their methids of doing good are often heavy-handed and extreme.
From the Splugorths’ standpoint, the people of Rifts Earth(and most other places) are historically traumatized, ignorant, downtrodden, ill-treated, and uneducated, prone to slip into bad habits because that’s all we ever knew growing up as a species. Splugorth efforts to rescue large populations and restore them to some semblance of sanity, teach them to be responsible, and correct the physical and genetic damage of centuries of brutal life, are seen differently from the people who are being displaced, apparently brainwashed, and subjected to alien experiments(never mind that many of those ‘experiments’ are to make our lives longer, our health better, and better prepare us for life in an unfriendly megaverse). The fact that groups like the Republicans and the Coalition States shoot at aide teams every time they wander ashore hasn’t helped change the image of humans as a bunch of insane blighters in need of some serious help and anger management therapy any.

What perhaps most terrifying to individuals in the merciful attentions of the friendly Splugorth are; burly Kydian interns, orderlies, and nurses, and the fact that despite millenia of research and innovation, the Splugorth, Kydians, and Kittani combined have been unable to come up with a hospital gown that affords the wearer any sort of dignity.

In the (Good) Splugorth hierarchy the following changes:

“I’d feel better about the Splugorth being involved in ‘Habitat for Humanity’ if it didn’t all look like giant hamster housing...”

Splugorth Highlords and Conservators---The Good versions are more symbiote than parasite to the Splugorth, and now serve to keep the altruistic and idealistic Splugorth level-headed. They’re the Splugorth’s secretaries and accountants, handling the paperwork and attending to practical matters...Sometimes their bosses drive them batty, but the prestige of being regarded as Elder Statesmen and diplomats across the Megaverse is well worth putting up with the latest idea of their bosses to put a meat-beast in every pot of starving and needy people across the Megaverse.

Kydians---The Kydians were rescued from extinction by the same deal as before...serve the greater good in return for guidance and assistance in managing their population...Now, before a Kydian family can have children, they must pass rigorous written tests and situational exams that prove that they can be good and responsible parents, plus ecological management and birth control have helped control rampant populations, at least until new planets and habitats are openned up. There are still Overlords and Powerlords in the GS organization, but there are also a wide range of service-oriented OCCs....particularly interns, nurses, paramedics, civil engineers, and rescue workers. The Tau of the Warhammer 40K universe would be incensed and calling their lawyers about copyrights to hear the Good Kydians parrot their slogan,’For the Greater Good’, but that’s exactly how the GKs feel....They get along famously with the Squilbs and DogBoys among others. However, some observers question the Kydian outlook towards the T’Zee, who the Kydians see as being in the same boat as they were, and feel that the T’Zee could be similarly ‘redeemed’ and made over into a force for good...others aren’t so sure...

Kittani---Same as canon, only the Kittani now serve a greater cause, rescuing other peoples. There are still many who want to return to their old ways of conquest, and who want to acquire magic to assist them in that pursuit, but the majority of the Kittani now study medical technology and build life-saving robotics. They insist, however, on a strong military, and in opposing the Mechanoids any way they can.

Metzla---The alien Metzla were all set to go the same path as canon, until the equally hideous Splugorth approached them, and in a millenia-old campaign to change their minds and win their hearts, have managed to persuade the Metzla that the rest of the Megaverse ain’t that bad, and that it is possible for widely different peoples to live and work in peace. The Metzla are still not entirely convinced, but are willing to go along with the Splugorth and see if it works out...if it doesn’t, odds are the Metzla will turn to evil in an even bigger way than their canonical mirrors ever did, out of sheer sense of betrayl(they may even join the Mechanoids)...However, the Metzla are acquiringa reputation for being architects....their Kreelong Carapace caste is responsible for creating beautiful, and functional, housing for refugees and displaced persons.

Splugorth Savers----Yes, it’s what the Slavers are now known as....Once on the verge of extinction, the Savers have been turned around into the Splugorth’s Saint Bernards, sent out into the worst of conditions to rescue victims of catastrophes. Their hover platforms have been modified from the canonical versions with capacity for 10-20 stretchers, rescue winches, and the slime tank is larger, with the ability to channel healing slime into stretcher pods for stabilizing patients and treating burn victims on-site.

Altarans---The Altarans were saved from their own extinction(at the hands of a biological weapon that killed their males) by Splugorth biowizardry. While Splugorth geneticists struggle to reconstruct the Altaran male genome, the Altarans gratefully serve their benefactors as scouts, soldiers, rescue workers, and therapists(their sonar senses are excellent diagnostic tools). They work particularly well with the Splugorth Savers, a working relationship some have compared to a Psi-Stalker and his Dog-Boys, though the friendship between Altarans and Savers is based less on pack dynamics and more on real mutual respect. Some wags, however, claim the relationships go a LOT further(XXX-WORM-GIRL-ACTION-XXX websites have the Altarans throwing fits, even though they can’t actually see the holo-shopped imagery...the tactile displays and sound effects are bad enough).

The Sunaj---The Sunaj remain very much close to their canonical mirrors, and they may be the real serpents in the GS organization, infiltrating it to twist it to their own purposes. The High Lords like the Sunaj because they are the most effective next step down from themselves in handling the massive amounts of paperwork and real scut-work of organizational management...The Sunaj are practical and level-headed, and attend to real-world matters, but they can also be cold and callous....We’ve all heard horror stories of Health Management Organizations...well, the Sunaj run that sort of parsing of charity cases and demand of payment in the GK organization. They’ve been accused of turning away people in need, and of hounding patients for payment, and have even been(it’s rumored) responsible for committing people for psychological evaluation and treatment against their will. It was the Sunaj who suggested Rune Head statues in hospitals to keep no-pays from skipping OUT. Sure, there are incidents, and the occasional investigation, but the High Lords have given the Sunaj a pass so many times....

Gargoyles---The GS have extended sanctuary to Gargoyle refugees from Europe on the condition that they behave themselves...Currently, Splynncrythh sees the Gargoyles as a repressed minority in Europe, being brutalized by the jackbooted thugs of Triax. He’s prepared to give the Gargoyles the benefit of the doubt, but he’s not willing to give them weapons, which has caused some problems between him and the Gargoyle leadership. Splynncrythh’s even offered to mediate between the Gargoyles and the Germans, and has left an open invitation for them to visit his London embasssy, but so far the Germans have refused all offers to negotiate. The Phoenix Empire’s shipping of arms to the Gargoyles without his permission has given Splynncryth a headache, and he’s wondering if maybe he’s bitten off more than he can chew in involving himself in Europe, and has a storm brewing on his doorstep. He won’t ask the Gargoyles to leave, and may open his doors to more refugees, but he’s debating sending a strong note of disapproval to the Gargoyle representatives in Alvurron to pass on to Lord-King Zerstrun.
All in all, the situation is somewhat similar to Palestineans dwelling on Cyprus or in UN-monitored refugee camps.

Dragons---The GS ADORE dragons...sometimes so much so that the dragons find the adulation disquieting. On Rifts Earth, though, Splynncryth has been somewhat disillusioned by his dealings with Styphathal, who he rightfully sees as a thug and bully...But like a UN relief director dealing with regional warlords in Somalia, the Big Eyeball knows he’s gotta deal with the Big Wurm if he’s to get relief supplies into South America. He just wishes Styphathal’s brother Stydro was still conscious...he would have been a much better person to deal with...except that Stydro’s laying brain-dead in a hospital ICU on full life support after a mysterious ‘accident’.

Eyes of Eylor---In the GK alterverse, Eylor is KNOWN as a sentient beast, that allows its Eyes to be used by the Splugorth in order to allow the living planet to tour the Megaverse by proxie.

Zembhak---The Zembhak of the Good Splugorth universe are very much better treated on a whole...The GS have managed to figure a way to effectively cyborgize willing Zembhak to serve as biowizardry components, without killing them or robbing them of their minds, and actually EXTEND their lifespans...Furthermore, the augmented Zembhak can disengage from their devices and move about(albeit at half their normal Speed) any time they want, but they lose any powers they might have had connected to the BW device. The relationship between a holder of a Zembhak-augmented device and the Zembhak is now more of a partnership than that of an owner and possession. The Zembhak now regard being BioWizarded as similar to how humans regard partial or full bionic conversion...some hate it and refuse to have anything to do with it, while others see it as opportunities.

Rune Weapons---Most RuneWeapons and Rune Devices created by the GS are the result of terminally ill and dying volunteers willing their souls in further service the GS organization, continuing their selfless service.

Atlanteans---Atlanteans are seen with some disdain by the Good Splugorth...An ancient, once-powerful people, the Atlanteans are also seen as irresponsible and impulsive troublemakers...They left Earth a mess and abandoned it when the neighborhood went bad...now they want to claim their old homeland back now that it’s risen again, through no effort of their own? Sorry, but your land claims are a little thin, buddies...And what’s this about setting the Mechanoids loose on the universe? Somebody’s got to answer for that, even we forgiving Splugorth can see THAT! Atlanteans have a ways to go before they can make up for their previous heavy-handed blunders, before the Good Splugorth will let them have any significant role in rebuilding Earth.
Naturally, the Atlanteans have taken offense at this attitude...Being used to being regarded as celebrities, the Atlanteans feel mortally insulted by the snub. The fact that the CosmoKnights haven’t weighed in on the issue is also galling.

The Kreeghor and the TGE---The Kreeghor are regarded as one of the Good Splugorths’ few failures...and it’s a doozer....An effort to uplift a barbaric species into an enlightened race of palladins that went very wrong.....Most of the blame is laid on the youth and inexperience of the Splugorth overseeing the uplift and relief effort, but some Splugorth now wonder(uncharacteristically uncharitably) if the Kreeghor just weren’t instrisincly bad to the bone...or maybe there was some other influence swaying them against the Splugorths’ best efforts. For the time being, the Splugorth just don’t know how to deal with this bully they’ve accidentally created....

Vampires---The Good Splugorth are even more violently opposed to Vampires. In fact, the GS regard vampires as little better than cosmic cancers, and the GS are working towards finding a cure for vampirism, including wrenching lower-level vampires out of the thrall to the higher echelon(voluntary) vampires. For now, though, the GS are forced to use lethal means to cure the disease.

(Good) Rifts Atlantis...

“Aw MAnnnnn......The medical care’s great here, but the magazines in this waiting room haven’t been replaced since Atlantis first sank! In fact, I think these still have water stains on them!”

*Rather than a slave population, the cities of Rifts Atlantis now sport camps of volunteer aide workers and re-educatees being trained and re-educated...Massive rehabd camps work to straighten out patients and victims from catastrophes across the globe and across the megaverse. Of course, some of the more deranged rehabilees claim they’re being held against their will, forced to perform remedial skill work or job therapy.
Whereas canonical Splynn catered to blood sports, GS Splynn caters to theri own version of the Special Olympics, the crippled and maimed testing their limits and new limbs in competition.
The Dimensional Market is much the same as before, but there’s a greater emphasis on rescue gear, firefighting equipment, medicine, and similar goods....Part of all profits is donated to the Splugorth hosts for the continuation of good works throughout the Megaverse.

“So tell me, young human, where’s it hurt? Oh, silly question! And what were you doing when the Spiney Ravager jumped you? I don;t suppose anyone saved your legs? Oh dear, guess we’ll have to grow you new ones then....Be glad it was your legs, and not the other end that went down the gullet...we can’t regrow heads and brains...yet.”

*Ayzlum---The Ayzlum doesn’t exist as such...instead there is a genuine sanitorium and maximum security prison for holding truly evil monsters and supervillians(including members of several ‘rival’ psychiatric institutes that were anything BUT altruistic organizations), while attempts are made to somehow rehabilitate them. They’ve had few successes, but the few they’ve had have been stunning and increase hope that nobody is beyond help (other sanitoriums also exist across Atlantis, catering to non-criminally insane, while treatments are sought for Possession, curses, and other seemingly inconquerably illnesses...Even, and ESPECIALLY, vampirism, which the Splugorth are particularly interested in stamping out).

“Okay, who’s in here for a magically-induced phobia of tentac--”
“ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! GIANT SQUID!!!! SLIMY COILS OF DEATHHHHH!!!!CAPTAIINNNNNNNNEEMMMOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!”
*TACKLE*
“Never mind...thanks for holding him down, mister...?”
“Sir Thomlinson....Sorry about his reaction...can you help him?”
“It’s what you’re here for, getting him help? Then that’s what WE’re here for...We get violently ill people in here all the time. We can handle it and we know the sick don’t mean to do it...”
“*Groan*....ahhh mannnn...I had another episode, didn’t Iiiiiiii.......?”
*patter*patter*patter*patter*patter*
*Thomp*Thomp*Thomp*Thomp*
“Ma’am! We’re here to help you! Please stop! We aren’t going to hurt you!--”
“Soylent Green is Made of People! Soylent Green is Made of People! Tell the Wor--”
*ZOMP*(((Carpet of Adhesion*Magic Net)))
“Thanks, Dragon-Head, we’ll take it from here...”
JUST DOING MY JOB.
“Okay, get that robe back on her, on the stretcher and let’s get her to a nice calming slime-bath...”
.....
“I see...ah, those were...”
“Kydian nurses....Strong enough to bend armor plate...but gentle as a mother reezbeht.....Ain’t they wonderful?”

Obviously, there’s still a lot of work to do...and a lot missing from the Good version of Rifts Atlantis....Such as...

*Tattooes---The GS have worked on ways to make the process of receiving magic tattoos less painful and have been experimenting with therapeutic tattoos...working in conjunction with Chinese chi-paths to moderate health and control both metabolic and mental problems...Magic Tattoos may offer a way around or to block the effects of some curses and magical illnesses...

*Agricultural and Zoological Stations--- The GS have converted parts of Atlantis into reserves for raising rare animals of Earth and other worlds in the Megaverse...They’ve also set aside land for experimentation in creating and raising new foodstuff and medicinal plants and animals, including beneficial symbiotes.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:38 pm

Those are some cool ideals for the alternative universes.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:20 pm

Well...there's plenty of material to work with....

Plus 'Good Splugorth' may be a launch pad into more symbiotes, more benigh applications of Biowizardry(such as additional types of magical slime....now in winter-green and tropical bliss skin-absorption flavors)), and dimensional hijinx(what if the Good Splugorth learn of their Bad mirrors?)....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:36 pm

Some more great ideas from Taalismn!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:51 pm

Yes, thank you, but is the Megaverse ready for a High Lord Dental Hygienist?

9voltkilowatt · Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:12 pm

taalismn wrote:Yes, thank you, but is the Megaverse ready for a High Lord Dental Hygienist?

I'd be more concerned with the Conservator proctologist's if I were you! :lol:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:21 pm

9voltkilowatt wrote:
taalismn wrote:Yes, thank you, but is the Megaverse ready for a High Lord Dental Hygienist?

I'd be more concerned with the Conservator proctologist's if I were you!

Or any chiropractor with Supernatural Strength...

Or any hospital that uses Ludicrous Mages in a 'Patch Adams' role..
---"Oops! I was SURE I cast 'Healing Laughter'...then why's the guy DEAD?!"

(Good) Atlantis---Highest ratio-density of health care experts and practitioners in the Megaverse....Impossible for a visitor to walk a block without getting a free exam/health scan/checkup at least once...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:51 pm

That is just scary!! But I think it would be a great alternate universe! And just think of the Sploogie who delivers presents to good little boys and girls of all race! And just thinnk on that world maybe the Coaltion is actually a good society who are helpful to any and all. And they embrace all including mages!

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:06 pm

I got idea the Super-Aristocracy

A top Villain makes Space satellites that release E-M pulses that knock out all tech in area.

The Villain and others use the Chaos to killed the top heroes in the world.

The Villain and his allies take over seven countries that have a Satellites.

Now thers a Resistance.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:56 pm

That is a very nasty alternate world.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:17 pm

After centuries of preaching of a return to traditional values and rule of religious law under the direct hand of their Deity, a global religion gets their wish...Indeed, and they know this beyond doubt(no masquerading aliens or supervillians) their god has returned and has set about establishing rule on Earth...
Only it's not at all what they expect...It's what they SAID they wanted, but it soon becomes clear that Hell is Getting Exactly What You Wanted....Now realizing they've made a grevious error, the high officials of the new kingdom must secretly conspire with the heretics and the very people they once denounced in order to overturn the new order and return things to the days when it was just people arguing with people...not people subject to the merciless and uncheckled rule of a god!

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:05 am

Now that is just scary Taalismn!!! :shock:

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:29 pm

So do I, but the concept it pretty darn scary!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:51 pm

There's aline from an old TV series called 'Picket Fences' in which the episode swirls around an apparent case of Immaculate Conception that has the normally stodgy and faith-challenged local priest suddenly up and practically reborn...At his summons, the state archdiocese sends an orthodox specialist to examine the evidence, and the priest is shocked at the guy's utter skeptism, beyond even that one might expect of a 'devil's advocate'...Finally, he gets sat down and the team of investigators explain to him that they must be extraordinarily careful in such cases..since, if the child IS declared the Messiah reborn..."what are you, sir, going to do when this child decides to take his crayons to the Ten Commandments?"

It's resonated ever since....Fanatics are stupid, but the ultra-orthodox are quiet, and the most conservative and skeptical, because they KNOW what stands to be lost if a 'perfect divine society' were ever to come to be...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:57 pm

Now for something a little less heavy handed...

The Rifts never come to pass, and instead the Golden Age enters an Age of Blood and Steel, as biological science advances faster than Artificial Intelligence.....Dog Boys and other animals enter NEMA service, while similar programs(such as the Achilles Program, which never had an imminent Rifts to cause a mass exodus) begin yielding new generations of genetically engineered sentient 'tools'...Brush wars flare in the Golden Age, and controversy swirls as the debate rages over the status of the new 'animorphs'.....Rulings that could affect global society, and determine the status of mutant animals, genetically engineered humans, and even AIs like the ARCHIE series promise to shake society to its roots...

Think 'After the Bomb' in the Golden Age, without killer plagues or nuke warfare...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:21 am

Pretty cool possibility!

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:51 am

Because of the comeing of the rifts all plant life on earth takes on a mega damage form (looks the same but now almost impossible to kill). Plant life now starts spreading at an incredible rate so no permanent buildings can be built even the toughest of materials will be broken through or grown over in a matter of weeks. While although the plants dont eat people or anything like that they get in the way of progress and there are no citys to speak of. No know technology can make any head way into the forests and jungles of the world.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:55 am

That is another cool idea for an alternate Universe!

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:24 am

Anything comeing through a rift to earth is shrunk down to the size of mice compared to that of man. So say if a giant demon came through they would find themselves on the short end of the stick so to speak. This would apply to all non humans even gods and demons. Likewise their PS and magic power would like wise be deminished.

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:34 am

Instead of rifts earth exploding with magical energy it becomes a supersponge of magical energy absorbing all magic from anything that comes through to earth also the absorbing effect is so powerful that rifts are constanly being torn open so that earth can take in more from other places. The absorbing field has a damping effect on all other types of energy makeing it harder to power vechiles and weapons as well as citys that use non magic means of supplying power.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:07 pm

Ouch those are cool ideas! That last one would be hard to really get any sort of civilaztion going without fire!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:53 pm

MrMom wrote:Because of the comeing of the rifts all plant life on earth takes on a mega damage form (looks the same but now almost impossible to kill). Plant life now starts spreading at an incredible rate so no permanent buildings can be built even the toughest of materials will be broken through or grown over in a matter of weeks. While although the plants dont eat people or anything like that they get in the way of progress and there are no citys to speak of. No know technology can make any head way into the forests and jungles of the world.

Reminds me of a sci-fi story: 'Grass'
Of course, you can substitute kudzu and it works just as well...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:54 pm

MrMom wrote:Instead of rifts earth exploding with magical energy it becomes a supersponge of magical energy absorbing all magic from anything that comes through to earth also the absorbing effect is so powerful that rifts are constanly being torn open so that earth can take in more from other places. The absorbing field has a damping effect on all other types of energy makeing it harder to power vechiles and weapons as well as citys that use non magic means of supplying power.

Giant Hamster Power!!!!!!

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:01 pm

Watch out for the pile of pellets. Sorry we use those pellets for everything around here. We use them for fertilizer. We use them to heat out houses. We use them for sports, since their big enough to toss around. We use the softer ones for the defense.

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:30 am

How about a world where medical science has advanced to the point that all humans are capable of regenerating from death no matter how bad the damage even from a single cell in twenty four hours with their memory intact.

shiiv-a · Unread post by **shiiv-a** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:07 am

hmm .. too many pages to go look thru to see if its been thought of or not ..

an asteroid hits the moon, and shatters it into 2 unequal pieces .. and as a result the weather goes haywire and only the areas that are 2000+ feet above sea level survive.

...

*shrugs* .. who knows .. but it would be something nasty to think about ... who lives or dies are the ones that adapt the quickest ... the youngest and elderly are lost, cause they can't get out fast enough .. whole nations would also be lost or overrun with survivors that migrate as the water rises ...

oh well .. enough of hte downer side of this idea

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:08 pm

It's actually a pretty good idea! Thank you for sharing it with us!

Continuing with Shiiv-a's idea!
What about a large asteroid comes out of the depths and goes into orbit of earth. The weird thing is that there is a single coming from the new moon. (I'll leave it up to everyone's imagination as to what it could be.)

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:29 pm

shiiv-a wrote:hmm .. too many pages to go look thru to see if its been thought of or not ..

an asteroid hits the moon, and shatters it into 2 unequal pieces .. and as a result the weather goes haywire and only the areas that are 2000+ feet above sea level survive.

...

*shrugs* .. who knows .. but it would be something nasty to think about ... who lives or dies are the ones that adapt the quickest ... the youngest and elderly are lost, cause they can't get out fast enough .. whole nations would also be lost or overrun with survivors that migrate as the water rises ...

oh well .. enough of hte downer side of this idea

Earth gets a new ring system as a result, colder overall climate, and an array of new geographical features...impact craters...

Jack McDevitt had this idea in 'Moonfall', except that the book ended with the Moon being split by an asteroid nicknamed, of course, 'Shiva'..>I dunno if he had a sequel to it that dealt with the aftermath...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:35 pm

Earth becomes incapsulated inside a mysterious alien sphere that stands off at about lunar orbit from the Earth....the only thing Eathbound observatories can see is the inside of the sphere, the surface of which seems covered by an Earth-like environment, and illumination is provided by strange flickering 'psuedo-suns' at LangRange points, that simulate a day and night cycle...
What is the reason for the englobement of Eath? What does the outside of the alien construct look like? What of the rest of the solar system(is Earth even still IN the old solar system?) What lies on the surface of the alien enclosure? Other lifeforms? The aliens responsible?
Astronauts and military men immediately begin planning expeditions to the strange new alien artifact in search of answers...and perhaps conquest...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:54 am

That is a good one Taalismn! It reminds me of a novel trilogy called "Dragonstar" by David Bishoff.

shiiv-a · Unread post by **shiiv-a** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:03 pm

i know that this idea came from a book i read a long long LONG time ago ... [back in highschool ... before i started to game in fact

an alien race decides to take and entire 'chunk' of hte earth into the ship and flies off. earth recovers and nothing is heard of the chunk that was taken.
what IS discovered later .. is that the aliens have decided to see what species works best with other species. thus humans become scattered and mutate to survive in different enviornments .. and with different flora and fauna ..

or better yet ... 'earth' .. IS that ship .. and we're only NOW discovering that these 'aliens' that arrive are in fact .. descendants from the 'chunk' that vanihed years ago

... well? .. the book didn't go as far as that last bit .. but it did take the people from a ocean liner and from the vehicles on a packed bridge .. and vanished with them ... never did finish that book. it was my cousins library book ...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:21 pm

Mysterious 'wells' open up all over the Earth...that seem to have no bottoms...anything dropped into them disappears...but curiously, other objects appear in their vicinity...Most of the stuff that appears is alien, but rather mundane...rocks with isotope values not found on Earth, strange plants, what can only be described as garbage...but when people start experimenting with tossing different sorts of items down the Wells, items of value...precious stones, pieces of alien technology, start showing up...
Then somebody gets the idea of pushing a person down a Well...and the reciprocal 'sending' doubles in amount...and value....

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:08 am

Earth and everything on it is starting to slowly die (I dont mean like the way things are now with when you are born you age and then die) All plant life doesnt grow as well as it used to and crops dont yeild as much harvest as they used to. The average human life span has droped 10 years in the last 40. All aniamls are sickly looking not skin and bones but somehow unhealthy. There is no ryme or reason to why the world is dieing it just is. As time goes on the process speeds up more and more children are still born and anamil populations drop by half. Once lush forest and jungles start to recedeing. Your PCs have to either get off of the planet (which is possible they can go to mars colony which is booming with new life) or find out what is killing the planet and stop it. What is killing the earth is an alien device found on mars that is slowly drawing power from another device on earth. The device on earth is drawing energy from all living things and sending it to its sister device on mars. Which in turn is sending out the energy to all liveing things on mars. Now is this alien device a weapon from a great space fareing civilation or a last hope of a once proud and noble people long since dead. The decision is up to you

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:08 am

Sorry for the spelling in that last post i was tired

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:54 pm

A team of world-famous archaeologists make a startling discovery....Irrefutable evidence of a past alien invasion of Earth...and WE were the invaders...

MrMom · Unread post by **MrMom** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:24 pm

Earth is caught in the middle of an intergalatic war and we don't even know it. On one side Aliens want to wipe out human kind in order to coloinze the planet. On the other side Aliens want to use earth as a slave planet. The Sol system is at a bottle neck in the space lanes of travel of very important strategic value. So neither has been able to make any progress as both sides of the bottle neck are watched very carefully for any sign of enemy incursion which is then repeled with the full might of the Alien armys.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:06 am

And don't forget about the alien race that wants humanity as its food source!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:05 pm

...and the food is negative emotions..Humanity must be kept ever paranoid, fearful, and angry!

Lester Del Rey's 'Sinister Barrier' is perhaps the best treatment of this idea...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:43 pm

That is a good one!
Imagine a world where it is emotionless. Where people never have and never display any sort of emotion!

shiiv-a · Unread post by **shiiv-a** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:24 am

hmmm ... alright .. this is a sad one ...

the alien's fight with maneuvers similar to the pro wrestlers ... and are immune to modern high impact weaponry ...

alright ... i DID say it was sad ...

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:26 am

shiiv-a wrote:hmmm ... alright .. this is a sad one ...

the alien's fight with maneuvers similar to the pro wrestlers ... and are immune to modern high impact weaponry ...

alright ... i DID say it was sad ...

Yea-gods... attack of the Mucha-Lucha's or the WWF avengers from Dimension X :eek:

shiiv-a · Unread post by **shiiv-a** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:32 am

LOL .....

i TOLD you it was a bad one ....

a very silly one .. but maybe in bad taste
:lol: