Mapping out the 3-Galaxies. YIKES!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:04 pm

Okay; found the "hex" pattern I needed.
Found a bunch of nice non-liscenced images of galaxies I can use for the galaxy images.

Problem.

I can only do GROSS (read; bare minimum) mapping out where systems are, while showing full galactic plane. To fit the 90,000 LY of the 'Corkscrew' I had to scale it at 1 Hex = 3,500 LY. :eek:

This means having to do a whole bunch of sub-maps for details of neighbouring solar systems. That or detailed notes about where / what is adjacent to said system.

I think I now know why there haven't BEEN any maps done yet in any of the PW books.

Anyone else find a solution...a workable one?

Braden Campbell · Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:48 pm

There are 500 billion stars combined within the Three Galaxies. That's like trying to map out two Milky Ways, stacked on top of each other.

The best you can do is to maybe the "local cluster" level with any detail.

And BTW... Thundercloud Galaxy will include a very general map, just so you have an idea of where things are in relation to one another.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:20 pm

Still Braden, that's not too bad. I'd love to see the results of your work DhAkael!

dmart11 · Unread post by **dmart11** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:22 pm

DhAkael wrote:Okay; found the "hex" pattern I needed.
Found a bunch of nice non-liscenced images of galaxies I can use for the galaxy images.

Problem.
I can only do GROSS (read; bare minimum) mapping out where systems are, while showing full galactic plane. To fit the 90,000 LY of the 'Corkscrew' I had to scale it at 1 Hex = 3,500 LY.
This means having to do a whole bunch of sub-maps for details of neighbouring solar systems. That or detailed notes about where / what is adjacent to said system.

I think I now know why there haven't BEEN any maps done yet in any of the PW books.

Anyone else find a solution...a workable one?

I would love to have whatever finished product you come up with.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:27 pm

Ditto! You can always add things to it as time passes. Therefore making it a more complete map as time goes along.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:41 pm

Braden Campbell wrote:There are 500 billion stars combined within the Three Galaxies. That's like trying to map out two Milky Ways, stacked on top of each other.

The best you can do is to maybe the "local cluster" level with any detail.

And BTW... Thundercloud Galaxy will include a very general map, just so you have an idea of where things are in relation to one another.

Oh trust me.. only the most "used" Systems (and capitals of each of the major power blocks) will be noted.
Local star clusters for important sectors I might map out as well.
The map they gave in Star-Wars tm. (Edition gods only knows

) for the D20 system is another way one can go. Sorta a turn of the 19th. to 20th century "here there be dragons" style galaxy map with only the most general scale & relation for the locations.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:44 pm

dmart11 wrote:
DhAkael wrote:Okay; found the "hex" pattern I needed.
Found a bunch of nice non-liscenced images of galaxies I can use for the galaxy images.

Problem.
I can only do GROSS (read; bare minimum) mapping out where systems are, while showing full galactic plane. To fit the 90,000 LY of the 'Corkscrew' I had to scale it at 1 Hex = 3,500 LY.
This means having to do a whole bunch of sub-maps for details of neighbouring solar systems. That or detailed notes about where / what is adjacent to said system.

I think I now know why there haven't BEEN any maps done yet in any of the PW books.

Anyone else find a solution...a workable one?

I would love to have whatever finished product you come up with.

Cool!
I have no problem with sharing this...seeing as how I'm gonna be putting a fair amount of work into it.
Please note however, certain star systems that will be marked will NOT be canonical

Just don't go looking for that desert place with all the cinamon smelling sand. It aint been found yet :lol:

dmart11 · Unread post by **dmart11** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:41 pm

Now, if only we can get some viable spulgorth starships into exsistance then we can get a table top rifts space RTS going.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:23 pm

Corkscrew Galaxy overview map...
DONE!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:53 pm

Pfhreak wrote:
DhAkael wrote:Just don't go looking for that desert place with all the cinamon smelling sand. It aint been found yet

Isn't it the third planet of Canopus?

Sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :quiet:

They're not supposed to know :wink:

dmart11 · Unread post by **dmart11** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:37 am

keep at it,I for one am EXCITED to get this work of art.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:16 am

I know I'm going to want to get a copy too! Please!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:58 pm

Aramanthus wrote:I know I'm going to want to get a copy too! Please!

YOUR copy should be in the mail..well.. e-mail that is

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:03 pm

I'll be able to get it when I get home. Thank you for your maps! I'm looking forward to opening it!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:47 pm

Well'p...
I kinda goofed with the corkscrew map :erm:

but not really.
I just "altered' the location of two systems for the UWW into the C.S.Gal.
Alexandria (now named 'Nova Alexandria') and New Midgard. I mean, c'mon!
There are NO systems listed anywhere for the UWW in the C.S.Gal. So I threw them a bone. -sigh-
Purists can squeal if they like...I don't care. I'll go with the vague refernces given from CJ's main book. Bill Coffin was great, but he put sooo many eggs in the Anvil "basket" that..well...

-ahem-

On to other news; the Anvil Galaxy map is going to take a bit longer, due to fact I found a better ref-pic to use;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... object.jpg

THAT looks like it IS the anvil galaxy as described in the dimension book of the same name

Naturaly I swapped out the other pic I was using and re-set the hex-grid back on.

For those who I have contacted already; be patient.

The other two maps will be done..once I figure out what / where I'm gonna place on 'em.

Braden Campbell · Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:48 pm

DhAkael wrote:Well'p...

There are NO systems listed anywhere for the UWW in the C.S.Gal. So I threw them a bone. -sigh-

Yeah, the UWW isn't too big on settling the rest of the 3 G's. they seem to be happy with owning 20% of the Anvil (which works out to about 80% of the entire UWW).

Although, acording to the main Phase World book, they have "a few worlds" under their control in the Corkscrew.

One is the Windscape system (found in Three Galaxies).

Another one is mentioned in the manuscript for Thundercloud Galaxy (by no means canon, but it might be someday, so you never know) as Mhadya.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:16 pm

Braden Campbell wrote:
DhAkael wrote:Well'p...

There are NO systems listed anywhere for the UWW in the C.S.Gal. So I threw them a bone. -sigh-

Yeah, the UWW isn't too big on settling the rest of the 3 G's. they seem to be happy with owning 20% of the Anvil (which works out to about 80% of the entire UWW).

Although, acording to the main Phase World book, they have "a few worlds" under their control in the Corkscrew.

One is the Windscape system (found in Three Galaxies).

Another one is mentioned in the manuscript for Thundercloud Galaxy (by no means canon, but it might be someday, so you never know) as Mhadya.

Cool

As I said...it's a bit of an "oops" but -meh- I think it actulay works better this way.
What? Thraxus parties with Loki all the time

Just makes sense that New Midgard would be close to Phaseworld

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:20 pm

It's AWESOME DhAkael! Thank you for sharing it with us! I can't wait until you get more finished! :ok:

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:30 am

Aramanthus wrote:It's AWESOME DhAkael! Thank you for sharing it with us! I can't wait until you get more finished!

Yer welcome :ok:

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:04 pm

I printed it up in beautiful color! It looks AWESOME hloding it in my hands!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:40 pm

Aramanthus wrote:I printed it up in beautiful color! It looks AWESOME hloding it in my hands!

speaking of printers...
my scanner / printer is toast. Spontaeneously just died on me...and won't let me re0install the software...grrrrrrr

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:46 pm

I know what that is like! About a 1 1/2 years ago I had to replace my old one. Of course it lived a good life. It printed over 15,000 pages before it died.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:42 pm

Aramanthus wrote:I know what that is like! About a 1 1/2 years ago I had to replace my old one. Of course it lived a good life. It printed over 15,000 pages before it died.

Problem solved...sorta.
Stupid thing had it's drivers corrupted in a power-spike this afternoon while trying to run the 'automatic update' program.

UGH!

Fortunately the on-line D/L from Hewlet-Packard worked.
*fingers crossed* for now

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:56 pm

:::Fingers crossed that you can repair your printer:::

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:20 am

Anvil
Anvil
Anvil...

:-?

This is gonna take some time...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:46 am

Looking forward to seeing the new maps. I'm still hoping you can get your printer fixed. :::fingers crossed!:::

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:17 pm

Halfway plotting the points on the Anvil Galaxy map.
*plods on*

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:12 pm

I can't wait to see it! What's up with your printer? Did you get it fixed?

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:09 am

Aramanthus wrote:I can't wait to see it! What's up with your printer? Did you get it fixed?

It's fixed.
Managed to get S.H.O.D.A.N. out before she could do too much damage.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:24 am

That's good to hear about your printer. How is the Anvil galaxy project going?

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:06 pm

Slow...
R/L issues keep taking me away from the computer

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:52 am

Just take your time. I know I'm interesting in seeing it when your finished.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:46 am

Okay.. done Anvil Galaxy!
Man is this galaxy crowded though *LOL*!
I guess the reason the Corkscrew is so "empty" (at least for described systems) is that the author(s) wish for the individual GM's to populate it themselves. :roll:

Didn't bother with the Golgan Republik

I view that particular meta-plot element as useless. If others want to have the galactic Socialist Frogmen in their campaign, THEY can place the former territories for those morronic amphibs themselves.

Braden Campbell · Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:04 am

DhAkael wrote:Didn't bother with the Golgan Republik
I view that particular meta-plot element as useless.

OK... but just so you know, the Golgan have the third-largest space fleet in the Three Galaxies, between the TGE and Naruni Enterprises. Shame they don't use it, though.

:lol:

Loosers...

dmart11 · Unread post by **dmart11** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:55 pm

Great!
I soooooo can't wait!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:18 pm

Braden Campbell wrote:
DhAkael wrote:Didn't bother with the Golgan Republik
I view that particular meta-plot element as useless.

OK... but just so you know, the Golgan have the third-largest space fleet in the Three Galaxies, between the TGE and Naruni Enterprises. Shame they don't use it, though.

Loosers...

Sorry; but due to fact that our "beloved" Coffin didn't stat out ANY of the gear or list assest or anything like that for the Golgans, really, they were just flavour text about a galactik gubermint in full decline with no clout at all in the grand scheme of things. Yet I'm supposed to care. Oh..and I'm also supposed to give a (censored) about the Altes? Bunch of rich spolied wanna-be playahs?
-fegh-
Pages I skip over when ever I open that book. They are irrelevnt and useless.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:26 pm

The Anvil Galaxy looks very AWESOME!! It looks like it could be updated when information is added.

glitterboy2098 · Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:28 pm

Braden Campbell wrote:OK... but just so you know, the Golgan have the third-largest space fleet in the Three Galaxies, between the TGE and Naruni Enterprises. Shame they don't use it, though.

Loosers...

i imagine they have a "clan jade falcon*" problem with their navy. every time they try to use it, their ships get captured and turned against them.

at least thats better than a "Free worlds league" problem. **

* so named after the faction in battletech, which lost no less than 4 of their 10 warships in one year, all to much weaker forces. in all cases, the much weaker forces took over or otherwise caused said warships to surrender, and then turned them on the former masters to much greater effect.

** builds up the biggest, most powerful fleet of warships in the game,and then looses all 27 of them to sleeper agents placed by another faction...in the course of one day.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:00 pm

The Central Alliance got some of their earlier ships thru just that sort of action. You are totally correct there GB!

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:05 am

Okay, the Thundercloud is my final map to work on.
Gleba did an excellent job of 'populating' it, just one problem; most the info on 50% of the Thundercloud systems is just one-trick ponies for 'Hook-line & stinker..er sinkers'.
*grumble* :nh:

Oh well. Not for me to question a published writer now is it.

I leave it to the individual GM's on the longevity & relevancy of said systems in their campiagns.
I'm just here making maps.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:01 pm

I know it is a pain, but it'll work with your others maps excellently! I can't wait to see the finished product.

Braden Campbell · Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:58 pm

DhAkael wrote:Okay, the Thundercloud is my final map to work on.

If you are interested in seeing the rough map that I am using during the writing of Thundercloud Galaxy, PM me your email, and I will happily fire it your way.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:11 pm

I sent you my email addy.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:29 pm

They are beautiful! Just PM him and he should send them to you! Well worth getting.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:20 pm

Gugh!

Gonna be a bit longer till I can get the last map done.
IRL stuff is getting in the way, and haven't had time to plot out / think where the heck I'm gonna place all the systems for the Thundercloud.
I'll get to it before the week is out...I hope.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:02 pm

Keep working on it DhAkael! The others were truly beautiful! Take you time! I can't wait to see the thrid one!

NovenTheHero · Unread post by **NovenTheHero** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:03 pm

did he post the other 2 cuz I havent seen anything about it and Im pretty curious =)

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:49 pm

Just PM him. He'll send them to you! I hope you are having a better week this week than last one.

dmart11 · Unread post by **dmart11** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:03 am

wow DhAkael! just pain and simply WOW! I wonder why this map project wasn't done before.You sure put the galaxies into perspective,your work was sure needed. I can't wait to get that last galaxy.

DhAkael · Unread post by **DhAkael** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:46 pm

dmart11 wrote:wow DhAkael! just pain and simply WOW! I wonder why this map project wasn't done before.You sure put the galaxies into perspective,your work was sure needed. I can't wait to get that last galaxy.

Just remeber..that is a gross overview of the main systems. Within each hex (especialy for the Corkscrew Galaxy) could be nearly a dozen inhabited solar systems

BUT...that is for the individual GM's to take care of. My job is just to make sure that the primary locales are put in relation to each other. Detail work can be done by someone else :lol:

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