Alternate Dimensions

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:36 am

Here are more ideas for Alternate earths

1)Us never get involved in World War 1.

2)Hitler dies in accident, in 1938,his successor is more intelligence,he thinks it will better to only attack the USSR,Stalin is killed,Japan never joined the Axis.
West gos into a Cold War with the Axis.

3)25 of the world,s cities get teleported to another planet.

4)New England of 2007 get teleported to 1987 earth.

5)Space stations of 2098 gets teleport to 1998.

Tell me What do you think each will chaned ther earth...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:56 am

A freak post office mistake results in a day's worth of mail from an alien planet getting swapped with a similar load of mail from the United States....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:06 pm

Those are some great ideas Gaby!

I think that already happen Taalismn!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:57 pm

An attempt to rig future elections using hacked digital count electronic voting machines accidentally results in America electing its first Artificial INtelligence President....President NASH(National Administration Software Homunculi) promises it will listen to every on-line input of Americans, and an expansion of telecommunciations so participation in democratic processes becomes as easy as using a cellphone...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:07 pm

Maybe that's the same universe "Max Headroom" is from. Of course it could be the same one as "Sharon Apple"!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:49 pm

Or a more democratic 'Colossus: The Forbin Project'...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:30 pm

That works too! Great movie.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:35 pm

Never saw it...read the book and its sequels...but the movie's on my 'to do' list...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:32 pm

I have the books I believe. I will read them someday!

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:27 am

Why do I think of Richard M. Nixon's head on a robot's body.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:24 pm

Because history can turn on a single sentence:

"SPARTANS! TODAY WE RUN LIKE HELL!"

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:42 pm

ROFLMAO!!!!! Great one Taalismn!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:02 am

I want it on a teeshirt...with a Ron Miller-esque Spartan helmet, eyes visible and bugging out between the lines...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:46 am

You'd want to make those wild eyes. With lots of panic in them.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:25 am

Aramanthus wrote:You'd want to make those wild eyes. With lots of panic in them.

Wide open mouth with flashing teeth underneath..or maybe a straight oval, like Munch's 'The Scream'....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:22 pm

That's another good observation Taalismn! That would help the feeling you want on that tee shirt.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:02 pm

The weather of the Earth includes storms of magic energy, akin to leyline energy, that wreak chaos, including resurrecting the dead and setting them losse as zombies to menace the living...but only within the borderso the storms...for this reason, most peoples cremate their dead or make sure burials are extra secure(corpses are staked to the ground, caged, or elseburied under massive concrete lids....)...Other anomalies associated with the storms include extra-dimensional monsters, fires that cannot be extinguished by normal means, mutating animals, and sudden bouts of magic-induced illnesses...

For this reason, certain regions are particularly avoided for their frequent storms, and hurricane and typhoon seasons are particularly feared....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:27 pm

Wouldn't that sort of earth allow for the fundamental development of a magic using culture?

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:16 pm

That would be a rather strange world. What sort of life might exist there? Just think of the jello commercials they would have!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:01 am

duck-foot wrote:what if the entire seas were made of a jello-like material

think of all the evelutionary possibilities

not to mention the sotial impacts of society

Wayne Barlow's book and video -Expedition-....a stidy of an alien world where the seas of the planet dried up and become so dense with accumulated minerals and adapting microbial life that the seas became jelly....a few macrolifeforms lived in it, worming their way through, while other forms, including massive leviathan 'striders', fed on the surface, massive mouths in their feet skimming off layers of jelly-mat with each monstrous stride...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:29 pm

The book by Wayne Barlowe was called simply _Expedition_

The CGI special based on it was called _Alien Planet_

Both have their strengths as stand-alone media.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:42 am

IT's a great show! I've got to tape it the next time it on! Well worth the watch!

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:34 pm

That'd be a very nasty concept duck-foot! It is truly evil and terrifying concept for really nasty universe.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:42 pm

*The Robotech Masters---Great villians, but lousy navigators---make a wrong turn at Aldebarren, and end up in the right solar system, but wrong universe...anywhere BUT the Robotech Earth solar system!

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:48 pm

I can see the Robotech Master taking a wrong turn and ending up in the Independence day universe universe.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:03 pm

Or what if the RM ended up on an Earth that was ruled by the God Pantheons, or by people so advanced they simply stripped the entire Zentraedi fleet of its ability to wage war, imprisioned its leaders, did the same to the Robotech Masters, and did the same to the invading Invid....
Could you imagine a maximum security prison tough enough to hold Dolza, Khyron, the Robotech Masters and Elders, and the Invid Regis for trial? The trial itself? The possible sentences?(I kinda see the Regis getting stripped of her 'godhood' and locked in a mortal form for several years to experience life as one of the 'inferior lifeforms' she attempted to attack and wipe out...in one of the Rifters, there's a Summoner spell that would do the job quite nicely if made semi-permanent...)...
The Pantheons simply regard the Flower of Life as an interesting plant and have no real interest in it, and would rather the Earth be left alone...except that all these alien jerks keep coming around...Og sure, some of the warrior deities have taken a shine to the Zentraedi, the Olympians like the Tirolians, and a few of the more esoteric gods like Zarathustra(and some of the nature god-beings), and their followers, can sympathize with the Invid...so the disarmed populations of each respective group of invaders are settled in the nation-regionsof each pantheonic following....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:18 pm

Cool Duck-foot! Or is that Duck-"Evil&Nasty-Foot?

That makes for an interesting universe Taalismn!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:08 pm

Aramanthus wrote:Cool Duck-foot! Or is that Duck-"Evil&Nasty-Foot?

That makes for an interesting universe Taalismn!

Thanks...
I did have a character whose FIRST name was Evil(Vardan)...made for some fun conversations and introductions...

"Hi, I'm Evil!"

"And who's your friend there?"
"Oh, he's Evil!"
"WHAT?! HOw can you say such things?"
"Easy...He told me he was..."

"My brother Miscreant, sister Nasty , Uncle Diabolical, papa Aberrant, and of course my dear mother Malicious ..."

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:32 pm

What if we had to have our personal virtue in our name. Such as scrupulous or diabolic.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:17 pm

People CANNOT lie because of an obvious biological sign...like a color-change patch of skin on the forehead or crest....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:50 pm

Or ever time you lied the word liar would appear as discolored lettering on our faces. Talk about diplomatic problems becoming very easy to deal with.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:56 pm

Now that you mention that in the Rifter story "The Hammer of the Forge" the TGE was working on a weapon that utilized Black holes. I'd have to go and dig my copy out of that particular issue. But you are right that would take tensions up to an all new levels there. Talk about polarizing the 3Gs.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:16 pm

...what of the Shadow Realm/Plane found a way of creating black holes as a way of absorbing the material universe into their dominion?

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:33 am

I have heard that theory about power thru black holes. But I've also heard about them not lasting that long either.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:05 pm

James Sheffield gets a lot of mileage out of using small singularities ('kernals') as a major part of drive systems.....David McCollum also used mini-blackholes as parts of fusion drive systems..not sure of the exact mechanics, though...

Qev · Unread post by **Qev** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:50 pm

duck-foot wrote:
vampire_hunter_D wrote:
duck-foot wrote:what if the TGE and the CCW harnessed the powers of black holes. that would send the galaxy into an even worse cold war.

Kinda sounds like the Magog from the tv show Andromeda.

Although Black Holes need not be just a weapon. I heard one guy suggest micro-black holes (ones only weighing a few tons with an event horizon the diameter of an atomic nulei) could be harnessed for energy generation (by feeding it matter)

auctually a smaller black hole would be so massive it would not survive beyond a few seconds. but, ofcourse this is just a theory

According to theory, a black hole weighing 1000 tons would survive (if you stopped feeding it) for roughly 84 seconds, before detonating most unpleasantly.

It would also have a power output of something on the order of 24 gigawatts at that size. :lol:

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:57 am

It would make and interesting planetary bombardment weapon. Thank you for that information Qev!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:24 am

Release all that energy in a controlled manner...you have an excellent drive system...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:50 am

Or use it for other applications of science.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:02 pm

Aramanthus wrote:Or use it for other applications of science.

Like cooking planets...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:37 pm

"Shake and Bake" worlds are now all of the rage!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:12 pm

Alternate History....Massive reserves of petroleum were NEVER found in the Middle East(just strata after strata of sandstone and rock), focusing the attention of the industrialized world away from the region as useless desert....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:18 pm

All of the largest reserves of oil were located either on or nearby the North American continent.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:16 pm

Communism works as it's supposed to...without the police state oppression and Stalinism....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:17 pm

Now that would be a truly scary world! :eek:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:38 am

Or a more sane one...without the constant oppression...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:51 pm

In a massive earthquake, everything EAST of the Rocky Mountains slides into the Atlantic Ocean...

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:38 am

Mars never looses its atmosphere and a civilization forms there along with the planet earth. In the early part of the 21st century peaceful contact is made between the two worlds. Five years later ambassadors are exchanged. About 10 years later the two worlds start a major joint project to colonize the entire solar system within two hundred years. Both of the planets later on work on another joint project to expand out into the local star clusters and assemble teams to get ships out there as quickly as the can, since the population of the solar system has increased dramatically since the two made peaceful contact. They leave the solar system 100 years later and establish several colonies among the stars.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:28 pm

Thank you! I was hoping people would like it!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:28 pm

Pulp Sci-Fi Solar System--Every planet, even the gas giants, has a marginally breatable atmosphere, a surface, and some form of intelligent life....from the dessicated Mercurians to the frigid Plutonians....Mix liberally with politics and pressure-cook for interplanetary war and intrigue....