Probably gonna allow this, but still....

[Library Ogre]

Probably not. I would say that he can learn some knightly skills and the like, and maybe, after many years, learn to make a psi-sword, but it's far more likely that he'll become a Knight-Affiliate... not of the OCC, but of the Knighthood.

[Talavar]

I would agree - he can't actually become a cyber-knight (the powers, skills, etc.). He can be a ley line walker with the values of a cyber-knight, live by their code, act and even appear like a cyber-knight (get more combat skills, use light blade, etc.), but I wouldn't let a player dual-class from ley line walker into something like a cyber-knight, because both assume an extensive pre-level 1 training and development of extra-normal abilities over a significant period of time.

[Oberoth]

The character is only 24 years old so, think 2-4 years of training and it could be done. He's already a major psychic so he would only have to learn how to focus those powers the way a cyber-knight has too. I would combine the CK occ skills with those he already knows and cut occ related and secondary skills in half. He already knows 5 languages and is literate in 2, knows anthropology, horsemanship: CK would replace general (at first level), knows demon & monster lore already, and has wp:sword and e-pistol. He would only be getting about half the occ skills.

He would still be a mage so restricted to light armor still, no cyber-armor, and he already has all the equipment he needs so no new starting gear. He's not getting all that much out of the deal in the end and it's not really about powergaming. Plus their arn't any canon statments that I've read saying a magic occ character can't become a psychic class.

So...why not?

If you do this don't forget to suspend his LLW skills from level advancement.

[Nekira Sudacne]

Offically he can become a cyber knight. Remember it says quite explicity that you don't need psionics to be a cyber knight.

[Prysus]

Greetings and Salutations. I'll start by saying I don't run Rifts, or even play it often. With that said, I would allow it. There are no rules for allowing someone to crossover to a psychic character class (and in some books such as Palladium Fantasy there is a note specifically stating P.C.C. cannot multi-class). Regardless of that fact, the Cyber-Knight is not a P.C.C. It's a Man at Arms. Maybe that's splitting hairs, but even as Nekira pointed out they don't have to be psychics.

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All Cyber-Knights, even those without natural psionic ability, can perform the following three abilities.

Since the character already has psionics, I wouldn't have them randomly roll, and just keep the ones they have with the addition of the special Cyber-Knight abilities. As someone else mentioned above, all the Ley Line Walker spells would become frozen at their current level. Cyber-Knights have a higher P.P.E. and a limited understanding of magic, which clearly a LLW will already have. For those that argue it requires a lot of training, well, just about any O.C.C. requires a lot of training. But just because he's older doesn't make it impossible (in my opinion). Otherwise it means Lord Coake could have only taken small children to train. If I'm not mistaken (it's been a while since I read Coalition Wars Book 4: Cyber-Knights) he gained followers, and he himself had to learn to use the Psi-Sword that way from a dragon. It should show that people can and do learn later in their lives (or maybe that's just me).

The real trick will be for him to find someone to train him. If I were the LLW though, I'd probably see if I can find the former master of the deceased Cyber-Knight for training, but more importantly to tell him the tale of what happened (someone should know the sacrifice he made, and the mentor may be similar to family depending on things). Of course, the mentor may require the LLW to go through some sort of test to truly prove he's remorseful and wishes to repent (not just seeking more power through trickery). Those are my thoughts (with explanations). Hope those help. And if anyone finds my facts inaccurate, please let me know (I wouldn't want to give false information). Thank you for your time and patience, have a nice day to all. Farewell and safe journeys.

[dark brandon]

One of my players is a human LLW of 8th level and is a major psychic of unpricipled alignment. His origional plan was to get stronger and eventually apprentice to learn temporal magic.

Recently a pc Cyber Knight sacrificed his life to save the LLW and town that the LLW had accidentaly placed in terrible danger in an attempt for a power grab. The LLW thinks it's all his fault (which most of it is really) and wants to make amends. He is determined to become a CK to honor his lost friend.

My question is can he? It never actually says in the books that a spellcaster can't take up a psychic class, atleast not in the books I have. Of which I don't even own half of the books out there. I've talked to the player and this isn't an attempt at powergaming. No munchkins involved with this. The LLW was (inadvertanly) responsible for the death of a long time friend and champion of light.

Yeah.

Cyberknight is an OCC. Most psionics are RCC's, and I don't see anything that keeps one OCC from becoming another. If he devotes the time, he could become a cyber-knight.

[ZorValachan]

I would say the key phrase is 'devoting time'. If the player is willing to shelve the character for 2-4 years of game time (not real time) to learn everything needed, then yes. If not, then the player just wants something cool, fast, and the character is not really committed to being a CK.

As a GM, I personally, would not fast-forward the game 2-4 years solely for this. Have that player use a secondary character for the duration. After the primary character becomes a CK, the player can revert back and if the Ck dies, he has a backup character that already has ties to the party.

my $.02

[Misfit KotLD]

The character is only 24 years old so, think 2-4 years of training and it could be done. He's already a major psychic so he would only have to learn how to focus those powers the way a cyber-knight has too. I would combine the CK occ skills with those he already knows and cut occ related and secondary skills in half. He already knows 5 languages and is literate in 2, knows anthropology, horsemanship: CK would replace general (at first level), knows demon & monster lore already, and has wp:sword and e-pistol. He would only be getting about half the occ skills.

He would still be a mage so restricted to light armor still, no cyber-armor, and he already has all the equipment he needs so no new starting gear. He's not getting all that much out of the deal in the end and it's not really about powergaming. Plus their arn't any canon statments that I've read saying a magic occ character can't become a psychic class.

So...why not?

If you do this don't forget to suspend his LLW skills from level advancement.

Here's my answer.