compatible with RIFTS?

[dante144]

Is it the same game system? Could rifters come to this world?

[dante144]

oh, sweet. I am am buying and have bought the first Palladium books in over a decade!

[Steeler49er]

Technically the game mechanics are the same, but the world themselves exist in "Differing Multi-verses" and have nothing historically in comon other than the 'recent 5000years of known history (according to everyone else). As such they are not True Alternate Earths but rather completely (illogically) unrelated earths.

For instance, No Nightspawn, Vampires, Were-Beasts, Farie-folk,Mages, Psychics, Victor Lazlo, Supers, HU Aliens, no Atlantis, No none of that. Other than using the Basic PB game system, the worlds are (again, according to everone here) existing w/o any comon ground. Best not to bother with cross-overs from what I'm told.

[dante144]

Oh I can imagine a few scenarios... ^___^

[Steeler49er]

Technically the game mechanics are the same, but the world themselves exist in "Differing Multi-verses" and have nothing historically in comon other than the 'recent 5000years of known history (according to everyone else). As such they are not True Alternate Earths but rather completely (illogically) unrelated earths.

For instance, No Nightspawn, Vampires, Were-Beasts, Farie-folk,Mages, Psychics, Victor Lazlo, Supers, HU Aliens, no Atlantis, No none of that. Other than using the Basic PB game system, the worlds are (again, according to everone here) existing w/o any comon ground. Best not to bother with cross-overs from what I'm told.

He asked if rifters COULD come to the DR world, not if they should. And the answer is yes, they could potentially come to the DR world.

I didn't describe 'should', I described that "Mechanically (game system wise) they can"... Then I said that "Technically (Physics wise Combined with Kevins intent, combined with the DR fan bases desire to keep DR free of inclusion by other PB games)" they could Not!


THEN I added MY wishful two cents wish the they "Should" have allowed fer it. But that was just, again, My wishful two cents.


We all know that you CAN A) do whatever you want with your game, and that B) All PB game books run off of the PB game system and allow for transport/conversion between books {IE: Nightspawn to Robotech Sentinels, to Robotech Shadow Cronicals, to Macross II, to Splicers, to Advanced Recon, to TMNT, to After the Bomb, to BTSN, to Heroes Unlimited, to Rifts, to Skraypers...Etc.}... No one with a brain should honestly need to ask such a stupid question, so the REAL QUESTION is, were they, are they, is DR intended to be a conversionable book? Is DR a variant of the Rifts Earth universe... And so far that answere (from the PB crew & the DR fan base) is No!

[dante144]

"No one with a brain should honestly need to ask such a stupid question,"
Wow, did I just get insulted?

I honestly asked if they were the same game system. I have never held the book, read it. All I know is that it is a new publication. Things change. So that was the REAL question.

"so the REAL QUESTION is,"

Maybe you just saw too much into it.

I think I just may integrate the the two worlds. Just have to get the book now.

[Steeler49er]

"No one with a brain should honestly need to ask such a stupid question,"
Wow, did I just get insulted?

No.
Consider that you asked a question that my above statement was not in referance to

I honestly asked if they were the same game system. I have never held the book, read it. All I know is that it is a new publication. Things change. So that was the REAL question.

"so the REAL QUESTION is,"

Maybe you just saw too much into it.

I think I just may integrate the the two worlds. Just have to get the book now.

Again, you missunderstood/missread my above statements and you're taking offence at them due to your having had taken them completely out of context.

[Misfit KotLD]

"No one with a brain should honestly need to ask such a stupid question,"
Wow, did I just get insulted?

No.
Consider that you asked a question that my above statement was not in referance to

I honestly asked if they were the same game system. I have never held the book, read it. All I know is that it is a new publication. Things change. So that was the REAL question.

"so the REAL QUESTION is,"

Maybe you just saw too much into it.

I think I just may integrate the the two worlds. Just have to get the book now.

Again, you missunderstood/missread my above statements and you're taking offence at them due to your having had taken them completely out of context.

I'd agree with his interpretation. Maybe that's not how you meant to come across, but that is how your post came across. Getting defensive instead of trying something like, "Sorry, that's not how I meant it" would probably help.

[dante144]

I'm not really offended. Just thought I would point it out. I may order the book on payday! Along with a couple of more books.

[Misfit KotLD]

I'm not really offended. Just thought I would point it out. I may order the book on payday! Along with a couple of more books.

No, but I was pointing out his phrasing lends itself to belittling manner.

And order DR, it's got some good stuff in it.

[Steeler49er]

]I'd agree with his interpretation. Maybe that's not how you meant to come across, but that is how your post came across. Getting defensive instead of trying something like, "Sorry, that's not how I meant it" would probably help.

I agree Misfift, I didn't realize how defencive I was in the last post (I'm typing everything out on an iPod, so I'm not seeing the fullness of my posts).

To quote you Misfit I am very "Sorry, that's not how I meant it".
Gomenasai

[dante144]

Word, thanks for the apology. Looking forward to getting the game book!

[Nightbreed]

Hope it works out for you Dante. Would be interested in some of your ideas if you choose to share them.

[DtMK]

Yes, the zombies are compatible, in fact they have a page dedicated to conversions. The zombies become Mega-Damage, with their heads and bodies' MDC doubling! Oh, did I mention their strength becomes Supernatural and they gain immunities to many attacks?

[dante144]

Yes, the zombies are compatible, in fact they have a page dedicated to conversions. The zombies become Mega-Damage, with their heads and bodies' MDC doubling! Oh, did I mention their strength becomes Supernatural and they gain immunities to many attacks?

Really? What page?

[DtMK]

P. 55, and I stand ccorrected, it's double the M.D.C. of the neck and head, not main body and head.

[psam_rage]

On subject of compatibilty, yes.

I currently have a Coalition Psi Squad holed up in a house somewhere in Canada, and they are cut off from their Chopper by a Horde of about a hundred shambler, three packs of runners, oh and did I mention the three smart ones?... Granted Im using the rifter 40's rules, but it works... (Still need to get everyone together to continue that.)

[dante144]

Nice. thanks, guys.

I have a couple of ideas, but I haven't read deep into the book yet. I got a couple of other palladium books too. And I have been digging into my library as well.

[GaredBattlespike]

I have put these DR Zombies into my Nightbane game to excellent effect! One PC underwent his Becomming during combat with a DR Type Shambler! It was wonderful, especially when the new NB tore off the Zombie's arm and was stunned that the thing did not even slow down!!! I have the DR Zombies created by the Cultists of "B", and are enemies of EVERYONE else!

I love using them as plot devices-both for and against the PC's. Are the PC's getting totally stomped? I have a group of Shamblers show up behind the enemy and have the Brain-Buffet...Er um, I mean distraction begin. Same thing if the PC are steam-rolling their current targets.

[Lord Death]

On subject of compatibilty, yes.

I currently have a Coalition Psi Squad holed up in a house somewhere in Canada, and they are cut off from their Chopper by a Horde of about a hundred shambler, three packs of runners, oh and did I mention the three smart ones?... Granted Im using the rifter 40's rules, but it works... (Still need to get everyone together to continue that.)

I would like to hear more from this

[psam_rage]

Sadly that game is dead. I lost half the squad when I banned the guy playing the freezer and the burster for reasons unrelated to gaming.

[Lord Death]

to bad it sound like,it was a great game