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F-14D Tomcat
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The Grumman F-14 Tomcat is a supersonic, twin-engine, two-seat, variable-sweep wing fighter aircraft. The Tomcat was developed for United States Navy's Naval Fighter Experimental (VFX) program following the collapse of the F-111B project. The F-14 was the first of the American teen-series fighters which were designed incorporating the experience of air combat against MiGs during the Vietnam War.
The F-14 first flew in December 1970. It first deployed in 1974 with the U.S. Navy aboard USS Enterprise (CVN-65), replacing the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II. The F-14 served as the U.S. Navy's primary maritime air superiority fighter, fleet defense interceptor and tactical reconnaissance platform. In the 1990s it added the Low Altitude Navigation and Targeting Infrared for Night (LANTIRN) pod system and began performing precision strike missions. The F-14 was retired from the active U.S. Navy fleet on 22 September 2006, having been replaced by the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. As of 2009, the F-14 was only in service with the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force, having been exported to Iran in 1976 when the US had amicable diplomatic relations with the nation.
Model Type - F-14D Tomcat
Class - Interceptor/Multi-role attack craft
Crew - 2 (Pilot and Radar Intercept Officer or RIO
SDC By Location
Nose/Cockpit 220
Main Body/fuselage 600
Wings (2) 200 ea
Tailplanes (2) 140 ea
Engines (2) 280 ea
AR - 11 (vehicle AR)
Armour - Stops light weight (read less than 2 lbs) objects swung by hand . Any other weapons can damage the aircraft.
Speed
Flying - Mach 2.34 at high altitude, mach 1.1 at low altitude
Range - Combat Radius 925km
Altitude - 15000m (50000ft)
Statistics
Height - 4.9m
Length - 19.1m
Width - 11.6-19.6m
Weight - 33.7 tons maximum, 19.8 tons empty
Cargo - Minimal survival gear
Power System - 2× General Electric F110-GE-400 afterburning turbofans
Cost - 38 million dollars US
Weapons
Weapon Type - 20mm Vulcan cannon
Primary Purpose - Anti-fighter
Range - 1200m
Damage - 2d4x10+10 per round. 6d6x10 per short burst.
Rate Of Fire - equal to pilots attacks
Payload - 680 rounds
Bonuses - NA
Weapon Type - Hardpoints (10)
Primary Purpose - Anti-fighter, anti-installation
Range - As per missile type
Damage - As per missile type
Rate Of Fire - 1 at a time equal to pilot attacks
Payload - AIM-7 Sparrow - Damage - 3d6x100, Range - 50km (31 miles)
AIM-9 Sidewinder - Damage - 1d4x00, Range - 18km (11 miles)
AIM-54 Phoenix - Damage - 5d6x100, Range - 190km (120 miles)
See below for typical Payloads
Bonuses - NA
Typical Payloads:
2 x AIM-9 and 6 x AIM-54 (Rare due to weight)
2 x AIM-9, 2 x AIM-54 and 3 x AIM-7 (Most common load out during cold war)
2 x AIM-9, 4 x AIM-54 and 2 x AIM-7
2 x AIM 9 and 6 x AIM-7
4 x AIM-9 and 4 x AIM-54
4 x AIM-9 and 4 x AIM-7
Systems of Note
Radar - Range of 200 miles (370km). Able to track upto 24 targets, display 18 targets and lock onto 6 targets at once.
Radar Warning Receiver - Warns of potential Radar Lock.
ECM Pod - -20% penalty to opposing radar/sensor operators to detect the F-14
Chaff/Flare Dispensers - 75% to cause locked on missiles to lose lock and fly off elsewhere.
Targeting Computer - +1 to strike with all on board weapon systems
Combat Computer - Identifies Friend or Foe and is tied to the radar System.
Low Altitude Navigation and Targeting Infrared for Night (LANTIRN) - For dropping laser guided munitions. +1 to strike with said munitions.
FLIR - Advanced forward looking infa-red system for night operations
GPS/Inertial Navigation System.
Ejection Systems - Ejects Pilot and Radar Officer from damaged aircraft.
References Used
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The Grumman F-14 Tomcat is a supersonic, twin-engine, two-seat, variable-sweep wing fighter aircraft. The Tomcat was developed for United States Navy's Naval Fighter Experimental (VFX) program following the collapse of the F-111B project. The F-14 was the first of the American teen-series fighters which were designed incorporating the experience of air combat against MiGs during the Vietnam War.
The F-14 first flew in December 1970. It first deployed in 1974 with the U.S. Navy aboard USS Enterprise (CVN-65), replacing the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II. The F-14 served as the U.S. Navy's primary maritime air superiority fighter, fleet defense interceptor and tactical reconnaissance platform. In the 1990s it added the Low Altitude Navigation and Targeting Infrared for Night (LANTIRN) pod system and began performing precision strike missions. The F-14 was retired from the active U.S. Navy fleet on 22 September 2006, having been replaced by the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. As of 2009, the F-14 was only in service with the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force, having been exported to Iran in 1976 when the US had amicable diplomatic relations with the nation.
Model Type - F-14D Tomcat
Class - Interceptor/Multi-role attack craft
Crew - 2 (Pilot and Radar Intercept Officer or RIO
SDC By Location
Nose/Cockpit 220
Main Body/fuselage 600
Wings (2) 200 ea
Tailplanes (2) 140 ea
Engines (2) 280 ea
AR - 11 (vehicle AR)
Armour - Stops light weight (read less than 2 lbs) objects swung by hand . Any other weapons can damage the aircraft.
Speed
Flying - Mach 2.34 at high altitude, mach 1.1 at low altitude
Range - Combat Radius 925km
Altitude - 15000m (50000ft)
Statistics
Height - 4.9m
Length - 19.1m
Width - 11.6-19.6m
Weight - 33.7 tons maximum, 19.8 tons empty
Cargo - Minimal survival gear
Power System - 2× General Electric F110-GE-400 afterburning turbofans
Cost - 38 million dollars US
Weapons
Weapon Type - 20mm Vulcan cannon
Primary Purpose - Anti-fighter
Range - 1200m
Damage - 2d4x10+10 per round. 6d6x10 per short burst.
Rate Of Fire - equal to pilots attacks
Payload - 680 rounds
Bonuses - NA
Weapon Type - Hardpoints (10)
Primary Purpose - Anti-fighter, anti-installation
Range - As per missile type
Damage - As per missile type
Rate Of Fire - 1 at a time equal to pilot attacks
Payload - AIM-7 Sparrow - Damage - 3d6x100, Range - 50km (31 miles)
AIM-9 Sidewinder - Damage - 1d4x00, Range - 18km (11 miles)
AIM-54 Phoenix - Damage - 5d6x100, Range - 190km (120 miles)
See below for typical Payloads
Bonuses - NA
Typical Payloads:
2 x AIM-9 and 6 x AIM-54 (Rare due to weight)
2 x AIM-9, 2 x AIM-54 and 3 x AIM-7 (Most common load out during cold war)
2 x AIM-9, 4 x AIM-54 and 2 x AIM-7
2 x AIM 9 and 6 x AIM-7
4 x AIM-9 and 4 x AIM-54
4 x AIM-9 and 4 x AIM-7
Systems of Note
Radar - Range of 200 miles (370km). Able to track upto 24 targets, display 18 targets and lock onto 6 targets at once.
Radar Warning Receiver - Warns of potential Radar Lock.
ECM Pod - -20% penalty to opposing radar/sensor operators to detect the F-14
Chaff/Flare Dispensers - 75% to cause locked on missiles to lose lock and fly off elsewhere.
Targeting Computer - +1 to strike with all on board weapon systems
Combat Computer - Identifies Friend or Foe and is tied to the radar System.
Low Altitude Navigation and Targeting Infrared for Night (LANTIRN) - For dropping laser guided munitions. +1 to strike with said munitions.
FLIR - Advanced forward looking infa-red system for night operations
GPS/Inertial Navigation System.
Ejection Systems - Ejects Pilot and Radar Officer from damaged aircraft.
References Used
Wikipedia
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Re: F-14D Tomcat
Nice, all the info needed for players to have fun with. Now the PCs can have that awkward ari battle while trying to not kill the pilots when they accidentally fly over restricted air space.
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Anthar wrote:Nice, all the info needed for players to have fun with. Now the PCs can have that awkward ari battle while trying to not kill the pilots when they accidentally fly over restricted air space.
Thanks I plan to update a LOT of stuff on my personal forums with more detailed systems of note and such as well as the F-22 and F/A-18 i already posted here previously.
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Re: F-14D Tomcat
Just see one problem:
The skin of any modern fighter aircraft cannot stop a ball-peen hammer swung by the instructor in a Airframe Battle Damage Repair course, it most certainly cannot stop a handgun round. The bathtub of the A-10 can stop up to a .50 cal round, but most cockpits are horribly exposed to ground fire. Lucky for most fighter crews, their aircraft tends to be traveling EXTREMELY fast even when close to the ground.
Otherwise, it looks like a great write-up. Thanks for posting it.
jaymz wrote:Armour - Stops all standard handgun rounds and up to and including 7.62mm rifle rounds. Explosive and ramjet rounds are still effective.
The skin of any modern fighter aircraft cannot stop a ball-peen hammer swung by the instructor in a Airframe Battle Damage Repair course, it most certainly cannot stop a handgun round. The bathtub of the A-10 can stop up to a .50 cal round, but most cockpits are horribly exposed to ground fire. Lucky for most fighter crews, their aircraft tends to be traveling EXTREMELY fast even when close to the ground.
Otherwise, it looks like a great write-up. Thanks for posting it.
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Beatmeclever wrote:Just see one problem:jaymz wrote:Armour - Stops all standard handgun rounds and up to and including 7.62mm rifle rounds. Explosive and ramjet rounds are still effective.
The skin of any modern fighter aircraft cannot stop a ball-peen hammer swung by the instructor in a Airframe Battle Damage Repair course, it most certainly cannot stop a handgun round. The bathtub of the A-10 can stop up to a .50 cal round, but most cockpits are horribly exposed to ground fire. Lucky for most fighter crews, their aircraft tends to be traveling EXTREMELY fast even when close to the ground.
Otherwise, it looks like a great write-up. Thanks for posting it.
I did that more or less to make it more useful in the Palladium System. You've played this system. If the players have ANY idea they can just take a potshot at a plane with their hunting rifle and bring it down you KNOW they will try it so this is to stop THAT from happening. Besides by and large the fighter would be facing 20mm rounds and missiles so not really all that much of an issue overall I think
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AlexanderD wrote:jaymz wrote:Beatmeclever wrote:Just see one problem:jaymz wrote:Armour - Stops all standard handgun rounds and up to and including 7.62mm rifle rounds. Explosive and ramjet rounds are still effective.
The skin of any modern fighter aircraft cannot stop a ball-peen hammer swung by the instructor in a Airframe Battle Damage Repair course, it most certainly cannot stop a handgun round. The bathtub of the A-10 can stop up to a .50 cal round, but most cockpits are horribly exposed to ground fire. Lucky for most fighter crews, their aircraft tends to be traveling EXTREMELY fast even when close to the ground.
Otherwise, it looks like a great write-up. Thanks for posting it.
I did that more or less to make it more useful in the Palladium System. You've played this system. If the players have ANY idea they can just take a potshot at a plane with their hunting rifle and bring it down you KNOW they will try it so this is to stop THAT from happening. Besides by and large the fighter would be facing 20mm rounds and missiles so not really all that much of an issue overall I think
In some systems they have penalties to hit really fast moving aircraft or objects for ground combatants or like relatively slow moving assailants. You could use that, or just say its going by to fast, your chances of hitting are unlikely and applie a huge penalty. if they catch the pilot on the ground and shoot at him before takeoff of the jet, informed persons like the fellow who posted above will want their bullets to be able to get the guy in the cockpit . The a10 thunderbolt is about the only fighter with a thin titanium tub around the cockpit, most other aircraft are very vulnerable to damage sadly.
This is what I was going to say. Perhaps a rule should be created, which would add a -2 to hit a moving target for every 20mph (32kmph) faster than the shooter.
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Alright then how high a calibre does anyone think could be stopped? 9mm handgun? I'd imagine the cockpit as well an the fuselage are capable of stopping some sort of impacting force. I honestly can't see being punched though it like Swiss cheese getting protection of some kind.
Also in order to do that you'd have to assign an AR similar to a body armour AR in order to actually punch through and hit the pilot otherwise Palladiums rules don't actually allow for punching through vehicles to hit the occupants as the pilot would be considered to be behind full cover.
Also in order to do that you'd have to assign an AR similar to a body armour AR in order to actually punch through and hit the pilot otherwise Palladiums rules don't actually allow for punching through vehicles to hit the occupants as the pilot would be considered to be behind full cover.
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jaymz wrote:Alright then how high a calibre does anyone think could be stopped? 9mm handgun? I'd imagine the cockpit as well an the fuselage are capable of stopping some sort of impacting force. I honestly can't see being punched though it like Swiss cheese getting protection of some kind.
Also in order to do that you'd have to assign an AR similar to a body armour AR in order to actually punch through and hit the pilot otherwise Palladiums rules don't actually allow for punching through vehicles to hit the occupants as the pilot would be considered to be behind full cover.
Like I said, the instructor in the Airframe Battle Damage Repair (ABDR) course would take a ball-peen hammer (2lbs/.9kg) and hit the aircraft. The thin, aluminum skin would tear, puncture, and/or otherwise rupture from a strong swing of this fairly lightweight hammer. To do damage to internal systems, he would use a bigger, heavier hammer. A handgun as small as .22cal would have no problems penetrating.
A combat aircraft maintains functionality due to the use of redundant systems (2 hydraulic pumps, 3 electrical generators, etc.) not due to an armored hull. No armor on "fast movers" or "high flyers" and only the barest minimum on the "slow and low." Think of the modern military aircraft like the zombies in DR, if you aren't able to do damage to the vital systems you are just punching holes in the thing. This is where the AR would come into play. I think that an AR of 10 would be good to simulate the difficulty of hitting these systems.
Using the Combat Rules already presented to us:
N&SS Revised, pg134 wrote:Moving Targets: It is a lot harder to hit someone while they are moving. -3 to strike at moving, running or leaping targets. -6 to strike anything speeding 40mph or more.
I think this could be expanded to:
Moving Targets: It is a lot harder to hit someone while they are moving. -3 to strike at moving, running or leaping targets. -6 to strike anything speeding 40mph to 79mph. -12 to strike anything speeding 80mph to 119mph. -24 to strike anything speeding 120mph to 200mph. Minus and additional -30 to strike for every 20 mph after 200mph.
Obviously, this applies only to unassisted infantry shooting at a Moving Target, since those in vehicles, PA, etc. with targeting systems will not experience these limitations.
This was thrown together quick, so tear it up.
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That still leaves no rules for actually punching through and hitting pilot. Vehicle AR wont allow for that. Now if ther is a house rule for it then great.
Also updated the Armour part of the above file.
Also updated the Armour part of the above file.
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Step 3 - Adding Vehicle Armor in N&SS Revised (pg 77) allows for Passenger Armor. The big trick here is that the Canopy and Windscreen can withstand a bird strike (and they MIGHT stop a .22 cal), but they are still pretty weak. The penetration of a canopy/windscreen depends A LOT on the angle of attack at which the impact happens. Using the N&SS rules, still, I would say give the modern fighter aircraft a Passenger Armor of AR:12.
Maybe a Random Hit Location table with a list of systems impacted. I have a book that describes the component/systems layout for an F-15 (USAF), it should work for just about every combat aircraft out there. Heavies will require a different chart - I'll have to find that. Give me a day or two to put together the RHL Table for fighters and I'll start something for heavies.
As a point of qualification here (in case anyone is wondering), I repaired F-15E's in the 1990s and I worked with the Northrop/McDonnell-Douglas design team for the YF-23 for a year. I know that these advanced fighters are even faster and more redundant, but they are no more armored than the Fourth Gen fighters are.
Maybe a Random Hit Location table with a list of systems impacted. I have a book that describes the component/systems layout for an F-15 (USAF), it should work for just about every combat aircraft out there. Heavies will require a different chart - I'll have to find that. Give me a day or two to put together the RHL Table for fighters and I'll start something for heavies.
As a point of qualification here (in case anyone is wondering), I repaired F-15E's in the 1990s and I worked with the Northrop/McDonnell-Douglas design team for the YF-23 for a year. I know that these advanced fighters are even faster and more redundant, but they are no more armored than the Fourth Gen fighters are.
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well it could be a matter of giving a special rule of the canopy being treated like Body Armour as well. It woud take a really good shot to be able to punch through and hit the pilot. You could give it slightly higher AR in that case to make the shot more difficult.
As a side note, I say the -23 shold have one but thats just me.
As a side note, I say the -23 shold have one but thats just me.
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Play with the write as you want. I think the RHL Table will be fun!
Thanks on the -23, I agree. I would still be employed over there if it had.
Thanks on the -23, I agree. I would still be employed over there if it had.
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Well I just thought it was a nicer looking plane all around
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Oh after looking at the Passenger armour rules you mentioned, that still doesn't allow for hitting the actual occupant. unless I am missing something it would be treated the same as vehicle armour except for the passegner compartment yes?
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Sorry this took so long. Tell me what you think. It's long (but detailed enough to be fun to use), so I've "spoiler"ed it.
Spoiler:
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I like it. Very detailed but a bit over the top and to me that would just slow things down having to roll all those tables for every round that hits. I think a simple primary hit location table is fine (your first table) and then just start rolling to see if there is systems damage once enough damage has been done to a location as per the tables in the Conversion book (or at least I think they were in the conversion book)
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