LOTD 3: may see release in 2012

[DBX]

copy/paste from latest Weekly update (blurb highlighted by me)

My personal goal for 2012 is to see the following long-awaited books released in 2012: Land of the Damned Three for Palladium Fantasy®, Mysteries of Magic™ Two for Palladium Fantasy, and Tome Grotesque™ and Beyond Arcanum™ for Beyond the Supernatural™.

Will this be the BC manuscript or something totally new, or a mixture of the two.

[azazel1024]

The BtS books have been waited upon for I think at least 3 years now, I think more like 4 or 5, and you can't really play 2nd edition BtS without those books...IE 2nd edition has been a non-functional game since its original release, unless you have the 1st edition core book and don't mind mergining the rules and stuff.

MoM2 has been in the works for I think at least 2 or 3 years also. MoM1 came out, in what? 2009? So at least since then it has been discussed/worked on/a possibility.

Though LotD3 is deffinitely the longest awaited of the books.

[Lord_Dalgard]

Chello!

Um, actually, I think we've been waiting on teh BtS books since about 2005.

[The Dark Elf]

I think Old Kingdom and Wolfen Wars are way longer than LotD: 3.

[drewkitty ~..~]

Yahhhhhhhh!

Okay that is enough excitement till they say it is going to the printers.

[Cinos]

Yahhhhhhhh!

Okay that is enough excitement till they say it is going to the printers.

An optimist I see. I had a sharp inhalation, and that's the highest my hopes go until I see it on a store shelf (or rather, until they say they can order any of them).

[The Beast]

I think Old Kingdom and Wolfen Wars are way longer than LotD: 3.

I don't recall that many wanting a Wolfen Wars book though...

[The Dark Elf]

I think Old Kingdom and Wolfen Wars are way longer than LotD: 3.

I don't recall that many wanting a Wolfen Wars book though...

Still advertised earlier.

Btw, IMO I don't think it would be the BC manuscript, but I hope there is a little from column A and a little from column B.

I do think that from what Ive been told of BC's chaos lords I feel that new monsters would add a more epic feel and that LotD:3 HAS to be the most epic book PFRPG has ever seen (and maybe will ever see).

[Sureshot]

Unless all the books promised are actually in my hands I refuse to beleive. Its not the first time books have been promised and never released.

[Eryk Stormbright]

Unless all the books promised are actually in my hands I refuse to beleive. Its not the first time books have been promised and never released.

Very true.. look at The Old Kingdom books...*sighs*

[Sureshot]

Unless all the books promised are actually in my hands I refuse to beleive. Its not the first time books have been promised and never released.

Very true.. look at The Old Kingdom books...*sighs*

Sorry but after hearing the same promises about books so many times well Kevins word is just not good enough anymore. They promise too much, lack the resources to deliver. I wish the company well yet it's hard to be enthuastic when it comes to their release schedules.

[azazel1024]

Unfortunately true. However, and this is just my personal belief, hope and dream, is that with Matthew Clements on board they are going to start rolling out books faster. I think they'll still be somewhat bottlenecked on the final writes and edits, but Kevin does seem to be hammering that out somewhat faster than usual as well.

I am not going to get my hopes up too much, but I do at least seem to sense greater energy coming out of PB the last couple of months.

However, I am not going to really believe in a book until I hear it is hitting the printers.

[Reagren Wright]

If the books they promise to release before the end of the year come out, then maybe I will
believe the LoD 3 will see print next year. Personally I got a feeling we're going to see more M.D.C.
material being printed (Rifts, Chaos Earth, and Robotech). Then again it all depends if the
schedule they say is coming does occur. If so the the sky is the limit.

[pblackcrow]

I am not going to hold my breath for it to happen.

[URLeader Hobbes]

copy/paste from latest Weekly update (blurb highlighted by me)

My personal goal for 2012 is to see the following long-awaited books released in 2012: Land of the Damned Three for Palladium Fantasy®, Mysteries of Magic™ Two for Palladium Fantasy, and Tome Grotesque™ and Beyond Arcanum™ for Beyond the Supernatural™.

Will this be the BC manuscript or something totally new, or a mixture of the two.

I'm guessing all the brilliant work of Mr. Coffin will end up in the circular file.

I'm also guessing Mysteries of Magic book 2 will be a bunch of erratta and missing info that was left out of book one with a couple of things tossed in.

Hopefully they will prove me wrong, but I have very little faith on the mysteries of magic books.

[cornholioprime]

Will this be the BC manuscript or something totally new, or a mixture of the two.

I'm guessing all the brilliant work of Mr. Coffin will end up in the circular file.

That is my greatest fear/concern as well: that not only will the Bill Coffin material be missing from the books (and understandably so, for any number of reasons including legal ones), but that try as he might, Kevin won't be able to duplicate the artistic flavor of those books.

I have Books from almost every Palladium game they ever made, and I particularly enjoy Mr. Coffin's writings -especially these first two Land of the Damned Books.

[Cinos]

That is my greatest fear/concern as well: that not only will the Bill Coffin material be missing from the books (and understandably so, for any number of reasons including legal ones), but that try as he might, Kevin won't be able to duplicate the artistic flavor of those books.

I have Books from almost every Palladium game they ever made, and I particularly enjoy Mr. Coffin's writings -especially these first two Land of the Damned Books.

Agreed. After hearing about the whole LoD 3 Debacal, I honestly lost a lot of interest in the 3rd book. It's not the original writer, and it won't hit my expectations of the setting. That aside, I think Coffin was my favorite Palladium writer in the first place. I think the only gaming writer I like more is Doug Seacat.

[Crucible]

How was Mysteries of Magic™ the first one.

[cornholioprime]

How was Mysteries of Magic™ the first one.

I liked the information in it, and it was quite a bit of information.....

...but I am forced to admit, it was rather 'clinical' in tone compared to most books.

I'd say that it was about as 'dry' as a Game Master's Guide.

[Cinos]

How was Mysteries of Magic™ the first one.

I enjoyed it. While, as cornolioprime mentioned, it was dry, I don't mind that for books that are not about setting at heart (like say a world book), and more about the mechanics of Magic (and the game). Some spells are just clearly not tested, like one that inverses attack bonuses, or are silly in the useless kinda way, that's the bred and butter of Palladium's magic anyway.

[URLeader Hobbes]

How was Mysteries of Magic™ the first one.

I did a detailed review of it.. Here is a link to it.

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=108345&hilit=A+Detailed+Review+of

[ScottBernard]

2013 is more likely, what with all the rifts books which need to be done first.

[The Beast]

Can someone remind me what the issue was with Bill Coffin and Palladium? For some reason the details escape me.

Him and KS had different views on what the LotD should look like, which heightened with the second book. IIRC, this happened after Palladium did the Siege On Tolkeen series (which generated more negative feeddback than Palladium was prepared for), and before the CoT. (Also from what I've gathered, KS is at times difficult to work for. Add in the CoT, then it was likely a very difficult work enviroment at the time.) There were a couple more things, but AFAIK these were the two biggest things. So when BC handed in the script for LotD3 and it wasn't what KS thought it should be, the two got into an arguement and BC ended up leaving as a result.

[Myrrhibis]

Unless all the books promised are actually in my hands I refuse to beleive. Its not the first time books have been promised and never released.

Very true.. look at The Old Kingdom books...*sighs*

And that's something I'd really like to see.... so much "history" in that region, and it's a prime travelling zone. No doubt, only for the brave - or foolhardy - adventurer.