Nightmask wrote: Comrade Corsarius wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:So your ultra powerful, unbeatable force..... whom can take anyone in the universe..... are too stupid or lazy to move back to their homeland in over 40 years? I don't buy it. Is moving a city hard? sure, but it can't even approach the difficulty of rifting out a billion fleeing refugees while under attack by the Mechinoids out numbered 100 to 1.
I agree completely with this sentiment, and actually your arguments all the way. Someone else said it quite well: KC wins... fatality.
Sorry but still just a loser in this.
Stretchin' hard aren't you?
Nightmask wrote: A ) it is NOT there homeland, it's a parallel Earth which they're quite aware of
It's still the remnants of north America and the United States. a United states that shared the history where the ML came from up to (( and past)) the point the ML left earth. It's not like it's Suddenly Russia.
Nightmask wrote:, B ) the entire planet is a warzone,
No. The planet is wild and dangerous but war doesn't cover the entire planet. Not even most of the US. The tolkeen war, the biggest one in NA was still pretty contained. There's plenty of room in NA to build your community.
And remember Nightmask. These are the ML. You think they're the best in the megaverse. They're not even scared of the Mechinoids!
Nightmask wrote: C ) these are intelligent and cautious people who aren't going to go and do anything in haste,
There's "Not in haste" then there's "Absurdly slow" They've got flying power armor. out of 300,000 combat troops they presumeably have recon units. They can fly up and scout an area. They just don't. "40 years" is way beyond a Treebeard "Don't be hasty"
Nightmask wrote: D ) there are hundreds of factions all over the place and you don't go doing anything if you're a smart military man without intelligence and it takes time to gather,
40 years? What are they going to act sometime in the next few centuries? Intel? Sure. Send your scouts up. Get some then act. In the 40 years, the factions you're talking about are all changing. Coming, going, strengthening, weakening... and sides. Again. You think the ML are better than everyone oin the planet and have said they can take out the CS's MILLIONS of troops. What faction are they going to be scared by Nightmask?
Nightmask wrote: and E ) things with the Mechanoids was a straightforward deal of Us Vs Them, they had clearly defined goals dealing with protection and evacuation. They aren't being either stupid or lazy, because if that's how someone defines it then the leader of the New Navy has been even dumber and lazier since he's been around since around the time of the Cataclysm and hasn't made any effort to 'move back home' and it IS his Earth.
The new Navy has their base. it goes where they want it and they've taken it upon themselves to be the shepherds of the seas. But then you're not argueing that the new Navy could take out the CS in about 5 minutes. You ARE saying the ML could do it. That they're so umber powerful it wouldn't even be hard. So if they're SOOOO Awesome. Why don't they?
You're now saying this super umber undefeatable power hasn't retaken the US and put a stop to the CS.. and has let the CS grow for 40 YEARS so.. they could gather intelligence.. what? on population growth in the CS? Intelligence gathering for 4 decades?
They can evac an entire billion person planetary population while outnumbered 100 to one byy a force you say is better than everyone BUT the Ml..... but.. they can't move their military a few thousand miles and set up a base? Strange duality.
Nightmask wrote: Comrade Corsarius wrote:.They've had 40 years. How long could that take to move?
40 years wandering the wasteland and waiting for their promised land? This is getting rather needlessly biblical.... or it could just be a coincidence
It also holds the erroneous notion that for some reason these displaced people would just up and go 'hey we're on Earth and even though it's not our Earth and the US here was eliminated as a nation centuries ago we need to immediately pack up and move to North America just because'.
Sure beats hanging around in some south american jungle. I know I'd want to go home.
Nightmask wrote: Comrade Corsarius wrote: when Hitler started his gig, we went over there and put foot to ass.
Unless you're in the UK or the Commonwealth, the answer is 'no you bloody well didn't'.
As someone who actually has bothered looking at the history as well I know quite well we were fine with letting Hitler burn all of Europe, having a 'not our problem' attitude and only got involved when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Since Japan was allied with Hitler we logically had to go after him too. Otherwise we didn't care if Hitler wiped out England and everyone else as long as we were left alone.
Wow..... that's almost criminally misrepresenting it.. but..
The point remains..
WE DID GO OVER AND KICK HIS ASS. You can try and wave your hands and hide it but fact was... we did. So... maybe you should read the rest of the history book. You know.. when we came in and eventually ended the war.
Nightmask wrote:
The Megaversal Legion is based in South America, and the place is one seriously fortified area.
It is? how so? Looks like there's even more warring factions down there.
Nightmask wrote: You don't pack up a permanent fortification and just up and move it on a whim.
Why not? if you have the ability, why exist in some god forsaken foreign jungle when you can just go home?
Nightmask wrote: One place is as good as any with regards to where to operate out of,
You clearlly have no tie to your country or land of birth. One place is NOT as good as another. When one isn't your home.
Nightmask wrote: particularly with the kind of transportation that they've got available.
They can rift out a BILLION Aliens... --- under fire---- by a force 100 times their size... in 19 hours... off an entire planet...... but can't move.... 300,000.... at all?
Wow... they must be ------------------------------a lot------------------------------- weaker than you're making out there Nightmask.
Nightmask wrote:
There are also plenty of local threats to worry about, like the Vampire Kingdoms, and local humans being oppressed and murdered.
So you don't set up in the South West. You can get just as far "north" of the vampire kingdoms as they are currenly south.
Nightmask wrote:
They can't be running around getting involved in everything especially without some idea as to which side if any they ought to be on
40 years of intelligence gathering? Are they mentally retarded Nightmask? Because if you can't figure it out in 40 years.. you must be. Right?
Nightmask wrote: They may be the Megaversal Legion but they're still finite in numbers and can't be spreading themselves thin or worse jumping into things blind and making things even worse
So 4 decades isn't enough to figure stuff out? How stupid are they Nightmask? As for spreading themselves thin,.... they routinly ship 5/6ths of their force off planet. They could bring them home and if they're as powerful as you think. Knock over the problems pretty quick. You thiink they can take out the most powerful nation in NA in 5 minutes. How long would it take them to get rid of the rest of the threats? 45 seconds?
Nightmask wrote:
(you don't want to take out a lesser evil that's been holding a greater evil in check before you take out the greater evil, not unless you want to make things worse by removing the check on the greater evil).
So the ML can't take out the greater evil then the lessor one? You say they're soooo strong. Which is it?
because in this post you've pointed out they've lost the ability to move people, when they moved over a billion off a planet in less than a day, but it's taken more than 40 years to move 300,000 a few thousand miles.
you've said they're so dumb that they can't put together recon intelligence in FORTY YEARS.
And that, while you maintain they're strong enough to take out the CS in five minutes, they're too scared to do so, least something else kill them, or all the little dinky thhings that run FROM the cs... Scare the ML
That's a really weird view of your favorite group there.