Seto Kaiba wrote: Kagashi wrote:The team of engineers who designed destroids didnt get the requirement from the customer but the R&D division who made the flying mecha did perhaps?
Doesn't quite work, both the destroids and the VFs were developed by the military in secret and there was clearly a decent amount of interchange between the teams, seeing as the head of Destroid development (Gen. Leonard) also had access to info about VF development thru legit channels. By the look of things,
Robotech's mecha are developed in-house by the military itself rather than by a private company under contract the way real-world military development is done. Customer and developer are one and the same, so a lack of communication seems a little unreasonable.
That doesnt mean anything. No one single source could possibly develop, test, and mass produce all the mecha seen throughout the series. Even if it all fell under the same umbrella of a giant organization and even done in house, there would have to be various divisions to carry out the various projects. Even if customer and developer were one in the same, communication between the various divisions and departments would still have issues.
Seto Kaiba wrote:Kagashi wrote:Point is, its canon that the ground mecha do not have the capability, yet flying mecha does. Coincidence? Perhaps, but it checks.
Um... what? What official, canon source says the ground mecha don't have self-destruct capability? Certainly nothing in OSM sources, and I can't find a thing about it in AoTSC or the Infopedia or any other indisputably canon source.
If you are looking for me to provide you with some sort of quote that says what I stated above word for word, you will be disappointed because it does not exist. But if you want me to explain, crack open your books and follow along:
Airborne assets:Ajax and Logan: Item 10 Self Destruct: Masters pp 78-79
VF series Veritecs: Item 9 Self Destruct: Macross pp 55-59
Alphas: Item 8 Self Destruct: tSC Deluxe pp 65-67
Betas: Item 7 Self Destruct: tSC Deluxe pp 76-78
Bioroid Interceptor: Item 5 Sensor Suite and Other Equipment: p 85 ("same as Alpha")
Condor: Item 4 Sensors and Features of Note: p 88 ("Same as Beta") Not really an "airborne asset", but it was designed to be dropped from great heights and float down on their objectives.
Ground assets:Spartas and Myrmidon:
No self destruct listed: Masters pp 90-91
All ASC Battloids and Power Armors:
No self destruct listed: Masters pp 105-107
All UEDF Destroids:
No self destruct listed: Macross pp 25-27
UEEF Cyclones:
No self destruct listed: tSC Deluxe pp 91-92
Further more, these units do not have any statements like the Bioroid Interceptor or Condor has that says "Same as Whatever Mecha". There is your canon source.
jedi078 wrote:Kagashi wrote:The team of engineers who designed destroids didnt get the requirement from the customer but the R&D division who made the flying mecha did perhaps? Point is, its canon that the ground mecha do not have the capability, yet flying mecha does. Coincidence? Perhaps, but it checks.
@ Sgt Anjay and Kagashi: To me it makes no sense whatsoever to put self destruct devices on your jets, but not your tanks. In the grand scheme of things having either a tank or jet aircraft fall into enemy hands is a bad thing. Therefore if you’re going to put a self destruct device/capability in one, it might as well be in the other.
IDK. Didnt say it made sense. Just reinforcing your statement and observation that airborne assets have self destructs and ground based mecha do not while grabbing at some sense of reason. I dont know the answer why airborne assets self destruct, yet ground based assets do not. I can guess that it might be because Jason Marker wrote Masters/Macross and Siembieda wrote tSC. Perhaps Marker simply forgot to mention the ground based self destructs where as Siembieda remembered to do it for the Condor and the Bioroid Interceptor. Cyclones might just be too small to have the device installed.
Sgt Anjay wrote:Well, firstly, there may be a reason related to the fact that aircraft pilots may eject before their machine is unsalvageable, while ground forces are expected to die with their machines enough to make the integration of self-destruct of negligible benefit. Then again, I also don't expect Robotech to harken 100% to the real world, since its so very clearly not the real world. I'm also not going to state that just because I can't think of a reason, doesn't mean no reason can exist why veritech aircraft were given self-destruct and ground mecha weren't.
Not likely. UEDF Destroids have Ejection Systems (item 11 p 26) despite not having Self Destructs. Why give the pilot the option to eject if he was expected to die fighting? So he could die faster as an SDC squishy?