llywelyn wrote:@Generally you lock threads where people are obviously on a path to misbehaving, and there's no evidence of it yet.I don't think there's any worry of it.
We're grown-ups (and, judging by the stat-yourself thread, all super-geniuses
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With all due respect, I do wish they'd stop spamming such an interesting thread, though, and share their own ideas or let others share theirs.
I'm not spamming, i'm just worried this threa dwill star developnig in way that will disturb me or worst makle me angry enough to go on "full troll mode"(albeit rarely i got so angry...generally is my sister that cause me such stresful situation). Religion and Politics are dangerous thematics to talk about on a message board.
As for my view.....
I think that often this very theme, is rarely addressed directly in many sci fi or fantasy setting. Infact i always found odd that in Lovercraft world there is simply no track of christian religion whatsoever, and the universe is a chaotic unfriendly place that at worst despise us and at best does not even consider us. Many sci fi setting, either everyone is atheist or new , weird, religion had developed(often being blatant expy of the worst traits of modern religion). Depending on the author religious view. In Comics this is quite common, expecially indie comic, united apparently in a sort of atheist or at least very negative view on christian religion(seminal is Garth Ennis Preacher). Mainstream comics tend to follow the same neutral stance as Palladium Books, sometimes wth individual writer addressing the problem and trying to asnwer it in some way. But since all writers do it on their tip toes end up offering confusing view(sometimes all gods and eities are simply shapes of angels who manifest themselves that way, other time G-d is Jack Kirby, other times there is the Cosmic embodiment of...everything...other times that cosmic embodiment has anothe rentity over him that asnwer to another non specified essence....other times again G-d and the devil are reflection of inherent abstract concept that mirror themsevles in many universes and to many races...as i said confusing things)
Then there are fantasy setting where no matter how close they are to the ****tty middle age (not the truly dark age it was presented by many scholastic books but still on ***ty, literlly ***ty, period) there is no or little chance of even montheistic religion. Sometimes even non caucasian people have somehow ceased to exist..
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I think that classic religion is hard to mix with magic and warrior women, but really is just a guess . Gurps Fantasy did a little miracle in trying to put Monotheistic religion in fantasy setting. Still is a quite uneasy and rigid setting.
Italian Comic John doe offer a curious, and as far as i know...so limited to my knowledge, vision of religion. G-d exist but he is just one of many creator G-d(a category apart of deities apparently), who got his own creation stolen by a sort of investment group of other deities(included Cthulu, norse and greek roman deities)..this reduced the faith/money incomings and limited his power. The managemtn of creation is passed on Fate(another entity, deity) and his agents, the Four Horsemen and deceased Inc.. Eventually he trickone Deceased Inc agent, the titular John Doe, into trigger a series of even that will cause G-d to be back as "Big Boss" of the Creation once again. Eventually John get angry of this and kill G-d becming G-d....
Some webcomics offer wide and vary theories and version. The most touching is the one form Satan's excrement webcomic were it say that G-d is an artist and as such he cannot containt his creative impulse. So he is always creating somethign new, and for his new creation he exist, but for the older ones, well is essentially left on the Angels and Devils to run...
Horror Movie and series play A LOT on G-d sense of Neutrality. Not even Apocalypse, angels revolts, zomibe plagues or else will make the big man act in any way, is all left to good will of humans. At best he can send some messanger , he never talk directly, to say " go on I will trust you can manage to get everything ok". Understandably the heroes of such setting are not too filled with faith and love for their own creator.
Few work of fiction ever shown Jesus...I remeber a crazy comic, by Rob Liefield if i recal, where Jesus ripi himself form the cross and kick the ass of greek/roman deities who had been taunting him....Is probably on of the most depressing depiction of him even seen on comic, somehow. Even if he kick ass. Don't know. In Garth Ennis Wormwood on the other side he is presented in touching way. While on Sinfest webcomic it is recurring character and presented in respectful but not even remotely boring or stuck up way. Evne G-d get shown in firendly way.
Futurama too shown the big G. as stellar computer and explaining in awesome way why he do not act directly.(ah Futurama there is something this show wasn't awesome at?)
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On Angels note(as biblican angels)
http://www.cracked.com/article_18757_5- ... ecommended this article is veyr useful in disocvering how similar to Alien Intelligences some angels looked (Wheels withing Wheels with the edges filled with eyes?
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As for my opinion and idea...do as you please, but keep in mind that things become more and more complicated, as you start up writing about fitting the monotheistic religion lore into Rifts setting and end up having to answer uneasy, millenia old theological question that were discussed by serious bona to fide phylosopher and thinkers, and that never got a final answer, like "why G-d allow evil to exist?" "why created us in this way" and so on.
Rifts setting offer even harder question "why other sentiend species exist? Did they were created by G-d as well, did he protect them as he protect us?" "the other deities exist and act directly, why G-d does not answer my prayer" "Dog Boys who ocnvert to christian religion and be good, go to paradise?" "Do A soul trasnferred into machine go to paradise?" "How do cyborg appear in afterlife?" "Good undeads go to hell anyway? Even if they did not asked to become undeads?" "A reformend, heroic demons can be forgiven for his sins?" "Killing an angel , even in self defence, is it wrong?" "Soul trappe din a rune weapons, need to be freed, carried directly in paradise, the weapon destoryed or what?"
Question Question over annnying Questions.... Really why would someone put themselves in such painful stress, is beyond me.
Hope it answered you,because htis is my last reply to this thread(you can send me personal note)
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