New power brewing to take out the CS

[jaymz]

Now my fun is ruined hope you're happy now

Ok, I'll refrain and only do this if your efforts fail

However if you like, I'll give you VF-25's with full armour packs to use instead of VF-2's and Metal Sirens.

[Mech-Viper Prime]

Now my fun is ruined hope you're happy now

Ok, I'll refrain and only do this if your efforts fail

However if you like, I'll give you VF-25's with full armour packs to use instead of VF-2's and Metal Sirens.

Ok hey let's team up

[jaymz]

Now my fun is ruined hope you're happy now

Ok, I'll refrain and only do this if your efforts fail

However if you like, I'll give you VF-25's with full armour packs to use instead of VF-2's and Metal Sirens.

Ok hey let's team up

That works, you'll be the first assault wave and if that fails I follow up with waves 2 and 3

Now if that fails I'll bring in the 1000 more Dolza sized fleets that are apparently roaming the galaxy in Macross.

[SamBell]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

What a poke

[jaymz]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

What a poke

What you expected people to actually take you seriously with your BILLION being PRIVATE military company (which makes TMS in the three galaxies look like a small potatoes outfit) that was started by two lowly humans (oops forgot one was a secret Nightbane) from Rifts earth?

[SamBell]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

What a poke

What you expected people to actually take you seriously with your BILLION being PRIVATE military company (which makes TMS in the three galaxies look like a small potatoes outfit) that was started by two lowly humans (oops forgot one was a secret Nightbane) from Rifts earth?

Jeez killjoy, the nightbane thing was a joke.

[jaymz]

Actually the Nightbane thing was the part that seemed the most plausible....depending on the morphus/powers available to them.

[Grell]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

What a poke

You should probably try and follow the policy of 'discussing the post and not the poster'.

[Giant2005]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

Take a look at Sam's post count.
The guy is obviously new.
Now take a step back and consider whether making fun of the new players is a good thing for these boards or for Palladium in general.
Instead of making yourself feel big by picking on the new guy, how about you constructively explain to him why you think his idea sucks instead of using hyperbole to make him look more ridiculous.

@Sambell:
The point is, you are either going to make things much too easy and in an unrealistic manner or you are vastly overestimating the CS.
If you want to take the fight to the CS, make it a fight not a slaughter - keep your army smaller than the CS's, or at the most equal to that of the CS and make your players work for the win. Winning through trial is far more satisfying than a one-sided victory.

[jaymz]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

Take a look at Sam's post count.
The guy is obviously new.
Now take a step back and consider whether making fun of the new players is a good thing for these boards or for Palladium in general.
Instead of making yourself feel big by picking on the new guy, how about you constructively explain to him why you think his idea sucks instead of using hyperbole to make him look more ridiculous.

@Sambell:
The point is, you are either going to make things much too easy and in an unrealistic manner or you are vastly overestimating the CS.
If you want to take the fight to the CS, make it a fight not a slaughter - keep your army smaller than the CS's, or at the most equal to that of the CS and make your players work for the win. Winning through trial is far more satisfying than a one-sided victory.

1 - the first half of my post asked legitimate questions and i thought was not making fun of the poster aside from my expression of the silliness of it.

2 - the second half which was hyperbole is no more silly than the original idea in teh first place and thus an example as to why this should look silly.

3 - how about we let posters defend themselves if they feel slighted?

[SamBell]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

Take a look at Sam's post count.
The guy is obviously new.
Now take a step back and consider whether making fun of the new players is a good thing for these boards or for Palladium in general.
Instead of making yourself feel big by picking on the new guy, how about you constructively explain to him why you think his idea sucks instead of using hyperbole to make him look more ridiculous.

@Sambell:
The point is, you are either going to make things much too easy and in an unrealistic manner or you are vastly overestimating the CS.
If you want to take the fight to the CS, make it a fight not a slaughter - keep your army smaller than the CS's, or at the most equal to that of the CS and make your players work for the win. Winning through trial is far more satisfying than a one-sided victory.

Thanks, also my whole grounds for this idea was just to take out the CS, I suppose I got a bit overzealous with the "billion soldier" count think and making frank a nightbane, believe it or not Frank Knarf used to be a character of mine, and John Strider was my buddy Cody's. And we had a time where we just out right despised the CS as bullies and plain douche bags, but they did start their own PMC, which we JUST estates at about 560,000 soldiers, and about 500-600 special units, including giants, angels (rare), and bunches of other things. But the non MDC creatures, such as humans, elves, dwarves etc. are equipped with a MDC skeleton and one cybernetic arm, (to be able to parry robots and such) and all have a JA-12, vibro sword or axe, and one standard side arm (generally a 1D6 pistol, like a big bore) but thats the whole thing. And the name of the PMC is in fact the Franstrnougphinhïemer (fran-stran-off-en-hymour). Yes I said it. It's a big name to be sure.

[Giant2005]

I have a few questions........Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military? Not only that he joined forces with another human and managed to put together enough resources to create a billion being Private Military Company? Ok I am all for suspension of disbelief but this is well beyond my capability to do so and borderline ludicrously silly.

Why not just say Knarf is the one TRUE god and creator of all and call it a day? That is how ludicrous this whole idea is to me.

EDIT - ON second thought I'll be the one TRUE god and creator of all. For fun I snap my fingers to send the entirety of the Splugorth and all of their multidimensional forces to stop you. As their back up I resurrect Dolza's main fleet from Robotech (5 million huge warships, billions of mecha let alone infantry). Why? Because by and large I like aspects of the CS and you destroying them with your ridiculously powerful PMC will tip the power scale much too much for my tastes thus I feel compelled to stop you and maintain balance on Rifts Earth.

Take a look at Sam's post count.
The guy is obviously new.
Now take a step back and consider whether making fun of the new players is a good thing for these boards or for Palladium in general.
Instead of making yourself feel big by picking on the new guy, how about you constructively explain to him why you think his idea sucks instead of using hyperbole to make him look more ridiculous.

@Sambell:
The point is, you are either going to make things much too easy and in an unrealistic manner or you are vastly overestimating the CS.
If you want to take the fight to the CS, make it a fight not a slaughter - keep your army smaller than the CS's, or at the most equal to that of the CS and make your players work for the win. Winning through trial is far more satisfying than a one-sided victory.

1 - the first half of my post asked legitimate questions and i thought was not making fun of the poster aside from my expression of the silliness of it.

2 - the second half which was hyperbole is no more silly than the original idea in teh first place and thus an example as to why this should look silly.

3 - how about we let posters defend themselves if they feel slighted?

I apologize, that second half had me a little annoyed and I overlooked the first half. I just think the game needs fresh blood and I'd rather see them nurtured than deterred.
I must say this question piqued my interest:

Knarf, who was originally said to be human is now secretly now a Nighbane yet was NEVER found out by a Dog Pack or anyone else while still working within the the CS military?

Can a Nightbane in it's Facade form be detected?
They do have an inordinate amount of PPE but if it is below 80 and not in use, it shouldn't be detectable but that is something that is inconclusive in my opinion. I'd like to hear some opinions on it (or some conclusive info would be even better).

Either way, the character went awol - it is possible that that occured after he became a NB (Or was the cause of his defection). That isn't for me to say of course.

[Akashic Soldier]

I'd like my statements addressed rather that just shot down without explanation.

Thank You.

[llywelyn]

They're the brains of the operAtion, they have a PMC, that is over a billion strong, that's consists of a whole bunch of different types of races, even a few angels

... oh ... ... you were serious.

:D

More or less my reaction.

Well, as long as you and your friends have fun at the table with the campaign, that's what matters the most.

Exactly, although

Though I do have a question: where's the challenge in it for the player characters, and with a cast of a billion, what part of significance could the players possibly have in the shadow of such an organization?

Spot on. At this level, with that minimal of a start up, most of the adventure probably comes from keeping your employees from assassinating you.

Apart from just +1ing Dead Boy, someone had to point this gentleman towards Rifter 9½ and the article on Gigadamage™. Also, I think that's the issue with the planet made of pure diamond that helps provide some of the backstory here.

[Aramanthus]

Thank you for your rapid response. I am looking forward to reading more about this group of your. If they ever do create some new design, I hope you will post it here. I know I would try it out.

[SamBell]

Thank you for your rapid response. I am looking forward to reading more about this group of your. If they ever do create some new design, I hope you will post it here. I know I would try it out.

Wait. The franstranophiheïmer?

[Aramanthus]

LOL Sure my group will try it out for a laugh or two.

[SamBell]

LOL Sure my group will try it out for a laugh or two.

Lol if ya wanna know more ask

[Aramanthus]

I would love to see this creation posted. Even if you send it as a PM.

[SamBell]

I would love to see this creation posted. Even if you send it as a PM.

Thanks, also my whole grounds for this idea was just to take out the CS, I suppose I got a bit overzealous with the "billion soldier" count think and making frank a nightbane, believe it or not Frank Knarf used to be a character of mine, and John Strider was my buddy Cody's. And we had a time where we just out right despised the CS as bullies and plain douche bags, but they did start their own PMC, which we JUST estates at about 560,000 soldiers, and about 500-600 special units, including giants, angels (rare), and bunches of other things. But the non MDC creatures, such as humans, elves, dwarves etc. are equipped with a MDC skeleton and one cybernetic arm, (to be able to parry robots and such) and all have a JA-12, vibro sword or axe, and one standard side arm (generally a 1D6 pistol, like a big bore) but thats the whole thing. And the name of the PMC is in fact the Franstrnougphinhïemer (fran-stran-off-en-hymour). Yes I said it. It's a big name to be sure.

No sure if this is what you meant.

[Aramanthus]

Thank you for posting it. And thank you for the pm.

[SamBell]

Thank you for posting it. And thank you for the pm.

Did you plan to use it?

[Aramanthus]

I actually could use it. When we get my group back together to game.

[SamBell]

I actually could use it. When we get my group back together to game.

Lemme know how it goes!!

[gaby]

i think you are Mary-suing your new Power,it must take time for it to grow to the size it needs to take on the CS like in 120:P.a

[Aramanthus]

We if is in 120 PA they could be joined by severl other powers.