Do Lizard Men Breathe underwater or Hold breathe ?

Amberjack · Unread post by **Amberjack** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:57 pm

Hi everyone, I was just reading about Lizard men in Monsters & Animals and realized under natural abilities it says that they can Breathe Underwater, and in same sentence states that they can hold breathe underwater for 1D4+3 minutes. Which is it?

The Dark Elf · Unread post by **The Dark Elf** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:42 am

Don't know.

I will go with the hold breath option.

The Beast · Unread post by **The Beast** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:07 pm

Smashed wrote:I would go for the breathe underwater option, as their write-ups in the other game lines support that option (In Rifts conversion book, and Rifts South America One).

Yeah, that's in both CBs, so I'd go with that as well.

Amberjack · Unread post by **Amberjack** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:24 am

Thanks all. I was leaning to breathe underwater myself. Maybe just hold breathe to get through/bypass polluted water.'
Once again thanks for the input.

Prysus · Unread post by **Prysus** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Greetings and Salutations. Just to include some additional information for you, pre-Second Edition Monsters & Animal books (both 1st Edition and Revised) have Lizard Men listed with only the ability to breathe underwater (holding breath wasn't listed). Now that information itself doesn't really answer much and there are a few ways to take it (that I can see) ...

1: Second Edition changed things. The Lizard Man ability is now only Hold Breath, and an editing mistake left in Breathe Underwater but should have been removed.

2: There's no change. The inclusion of holding breath is an editing mistake and shouldn't be there (how it got there at all remains a mystery).

3: Second Edition just added additional abilities. They can breathe underwater, but in toxic environments (such as toxic gas, polluted water, planet without air, etc.) they also have enhanced abilities to hold their breath.

Personally, I favor #3. However, I just wanted to include additional information for you. Anyways, I think that's all for now. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.

filo_clarke · Unread post by **filo_clarke** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:48 pm

I agree with Prysus' #3 statement. These seem to be two separate abilities:
1: They can breathe underwater.
AND
2: If exposed to a gas-attack, or similar, they can hold their breath.

Sort of like me:
1: I can breathe air.
2: If exposed to a gas-attack, or similar, I can hold my breath (like on taco-night).

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