So stick in there Lord! Youll see your book, just let Palladium hit their stride again! They're building speed! Can't ya tell?
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Sureshot wrote:Listen you young whippersnappers in my day we had to walk for 15 no 30 miles to the nearest game barefoot both ways. We had real books not PDFS and we carried them on carts we pulled ourselves that we built by hand. We had Thaco and we were happy. If we needed dice we carved ours out of wood. Petrified wood just because we could.
Akashic Soldier wrote:I am personally REALLY REALLY keen to see Black Market and I think pushing it forward was a good business move because it has setting information that sweeps across the entirety of Rifts Earth. That said, my understanding that the Vampire Source book is mostly complete but is on the back burner because they're prioritizing the Insider offers (again, rightfully so) so they have more of an immediate cash flow so they can put out more books more quickly through the year. Like the Vampire sourcebook which will likely not earn as much because a lot of it is reprinted or updated material.
So stick in there Lord! Youll see your book, just let Palladium hit their stride again! They're building speed! Can't ya tell?Pretty exciting right!
Greyaxe wrote:Perhaps sales of Vampire Kingdoms Revised has not been as good as expected. So he moved onto low hanging fruit, NG and Black market have been prized for years. and are much needed for other titles.
Lord Nikon wrote:I have been waiting since last year for this book. Originally Kevin made mention that it was his next book to focus on after Lemuria.
"Rifts® Vampires Sourcebook is next to be finished.
Dead Reign™ Sourcebook 3: Endless Dead will quickly follow the Vamps sourcebook"
Then all of a sudden Endless Dead was bumped ahead.![]()
Then came Path of the Storm.![]()
Then Rifter 57, 58 and 59.![]()
Now it looks like Black Market is to be completed and released before the Vampire Sourcebook...![]()
I'm just waiting for Northern Gun 1 & 2 to be bumped ahead and the Sourcebook pushed back again!
Maybe it's only me, but I have a limited amount of resources and can't make multiple purchases of books because the shipping charges kill me. There are now three other books I have put on hold buying because I am waiting for this book to be finished. PLEASe. If anyone that has the power reads this, no more delay's. I beg you!
After all, the writing seems to be continuing even though the writing was almost finished last fall...
The Beast wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I am personally REALLY REALLY keen to see Black Market and I think pushing it forward was a good business move because it has setting information that sweeps across the entirety of Rifts Earth. That said, my understanding that the Vampire Source book is mostly complete but is on the back burner because they're prioritizing the Insider offers (again, rightfully so) so they have more of an immediate cash flow so they can put out more books more quickly through the year. Like the Vampire sourcebook which will likely not earn as much because a lot of it is reprinted or updated material.
So stick in there Lord! Youll see your book, just let Palladium hit their stride again! They're building speed! Can't ya tell?Pretty exciting right!
Yeah. We'll see it along side of Japan 2, Australia 2, Australia 3, Land of the Damned 3, Tome Grotesque, Beyond Arcanum, and Megaverse in Flames.
Akashic Soldier wrote:The Beast wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I am personally REALLY REALLY keen to see Black Market and I think pushing it forward was a good business move because it has setting information that sweeps across the entirety of Rifts Earth. That said, my understanding that the Vampire Source book is mostly complete but is on the back burner because they're prioritizing the Insider offers (again, rightfully so) so they have more of an immediate cash flow so they can put out more books more quickly through the year. Like the Vampire sourcebook which will likely not earn as much because a lot of it is reprinted or updated material.
So stick in there Lord! Youll see your book, just let Palladium hit their stride again! They're building speed! Can't ya tell?Pretty exciting right!
Yeah. We'll see it along side of Japan 2, Australia 2, Australia 3, Land of the Damned 3, Tome Grotesque, Beyond Arcanum, and Megaverse in Flames.
Australia 2 & 3 were canceled because Australia 1 had such terrible sales. I can't speak for the others but I know Megaverse in Flames is still in production. Stop hating man.
Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Akashic Soldier wrote:Australia 2 & 3 were canceled because Australia 1 had such terrible sales. I can't speak for the others but I know Megaverse in Flames is still in production. Stop hating man.
The Beast wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:Australia 2 & 3 were canceled because Australia 1 had such terrible sales. I can't speak for the others but I know Megaverse in Flames is still in production. Stop hating man.
Who's hating? I'm pointing out their track record.
Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Jedrious wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Really, because Shadows of Light is the only book they've produced that sold so abysmally as to have been stated flat out that it will never receive a second printing.
ffranceschi wrote:Jedrious wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Really, because Shadows of Light is the only book they've produced that sold so abysmally as to have been stated flat out that it will never receive a second printing.
Shadows of Light is selling from USD 80 to USD 863.10!!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all. It is the most expensive Palladium book that I have ever seen in Amazon!
RIFTS Australia: I don't like it but it is not a bad book.
I think their release schedule is: Black Market, NG1, NG2 and then VKS. Perhaps I am wrong...
Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
ffranceschi wrote:Jedrious wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Really, because Shadows of Light is the only book they've produced that sold so abysmally as to have been stated flat out that it will never receive a second printing.
Shadows of Light is selling from USD 80 to USD 863.10!!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all. It is the most expensive Palladium book that I have ever seen in Amazon!
RIFTS Australia: I don't like it but it is not a bad book.
I think their release schedule is: Black Market, NG1, NG2 and then VKS. Perhaps I am wrong...
Mallak's Place wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Well, I hear they plan on remaking MAD MAXX so maybe thet will renew interest in the Land Down Under.
As for the Vampire Sourcebook I can't wait to see it. back when i first got the Rifts Main Book I picked up Sourcebook one and Vampire kingdoms at the same time (blew my bagboy paycheck.) It was just so COOL. it was my first taste of the Palladium gamming system and I was hooked. the First Rift games I GM'd were in Texas/Mexico.. I even moved Archie's base to Southern Texas so i could use Him against my Players. the Rangers were my first examples of what Rifts Characters should be.. I can't wait to see what they are like 20+ years later
Sureshot wrote:Listen you young whippersnappers in my day we had to walk for 15 no 30 miles to the nearest game barefoot both ways. We had real books not PDFS and we carried them on carts we pulled ourselves that we built by hand. We had Thaco and we were happy. If we needed dice we carved ours out of wood. Petrified wood just because we could.
Jedrious wrote:ffranceschi wrote:Jedrious wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Really, because Shadows of Light is the only book they've produced that sold so abysmally as to have been stated flat out that it will never receive a second printing.
Shadows of Light is selling from USD 80 to USD 863.10!!! http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all. It is the most expensive Palladium book that I have ever seen in Amazon!
RIFTS Australia: I don't like it but it is not a bad book.
I think their release schedule is: Black Market, NG1, NG2 and then VKS. Perhaps I am wrong...
in the COLLECTOR'S market, it's selling, in the actual ROLEPLAYING market it did horrible, hence why it was CANCELLED.
Greyaxe wrote:Mallak's Place wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Well, I hear they plan on remaking MAD MAXX so maybe thet will renew interest in the Land Down Under.
As for the Vampire Sourcebook I can't wait to see it. back when i first got the Rifts Main Book I picked up Sourcebook one and Vampire kingdoms at the same time (blew my bagboy paycheck.) It was just so COOL. it was my first taste of the Palladium gamming system and I was hooked. the First Rift games I GM'd were in Texas/Mexico.. I even moved Archie's base to Southern Texas so i could use Him against my Players. the Rangers were my first examples of what Rifts Characters should be.. I can't wait to see what they are like 20+ years later
DO NOT LIE TO ME DUDE, seriously..... I LOVE that series.
Pepsi Jedi wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
lol that's just because it sucked. It's not the "REASON" I've heard as to why 2 and 3 were canceled.
CyCo wrote:Greyaxe wrote:Mallak's Place wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Well, I hear they plan on remaking MAD MAXX so maybe thet will renew interest in the Land Down Under.
As for the Vampire Sourcebook I can't wait to see it. back when i first got the Rifts Main Book I picked up Sourcebook one and Vampire kingdoms at the same time (blew my bagboy paycheck.) It was just so COOL. it was my first taste of the Palladium gamming system and I was hooked. the First Rift games I GM'd were in Texas/Mexico.. I even moved Archie's base to Southern Texas so i could use Him against my Players. the Rangers were my first examples of what Rifts Characters should be.. I can't wait to see what they are like 20+ years later
DO NOT LIE TO ME DUDE, seriously..... I LOVE that series.
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Sureshot wrote:Listen you young whippersnappers in my day we had to walk for 15 no 30 miles to the nearest game barefoot both ways. We had real books not PDFS and we carried them on carts we pulled ourselves that we built by hand. We had Thaco and we were happy. If we needed dice we carved ours out of wood. Petrified wood just because we could.
CyCo wrote:You really think you're a fan, but you are that far behind the news? Here's the best Mad Max fansite with all the latest news (and even a few photos).
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Lord Nikon wrote:azazel1024 wrote:I think Pepsi pretty much covered it, but to reiterate based on what Kevin said in the last few murmurs, it seems like more or less what happened is he got more excited about Black Market. He was planning on working on both that and VK:SB1 concurrently, but he just felt the Black Market stuff more and got a bunch of contributions from other writers that he really, really liked, so he rolled with it. I'd also expect VK:SB1 to be turned around very quickly once Black Market is done.
Earlier on, VK:SB1 was "put aside" because of Lemuria in large part and whatever massive writters block/procrastination was going on with it over the months. VK:SB1, other than maybe very initially when the revised Vampire Kingdoms book was still being written, was not described as being an immediate release after VK. As soon as VK was out the door there were other products in the pipe first that were announced. Though lately it has gotten a bit delayed.
Ya... I know... You guys are right. And it's not that I don't want BM or the Northern Gun books... I do. I just have to watch my limited resources and have been biting at the bit for a while for both the Lemuria and VK - Sourcebook. I REALLY want them. But $40 in shipping is nuts! That's a whole other book...
I'll just hafta try and be patient.
Greyaxe wrote:CyCo wrote:Greyaxe wrote:Mallak's Place wrote:Akashic Soldier wrote:I have it on good authority the primary reason was that Rifts: Australia is the lowest selling Palladium Book with the exception of coloring and art books.
Well, I hear they plan on remaking MAD MAXX so maybe thet will renew interest in the Land Down Under.
As for the Vampire Sourcebook I can't wait to see it. back when i first got the Rifts Main Book I picked up Sourcebook one and Vampire kingdoms at the same time (blew my bagboy paycheck.) It was just so COOL. it was my first taste of the Palladium gamming system and I was hooked. the First Rift games I GM'd were in Texas/Mexico.. I even moved Archie's base to Southern Texas so i could use Him against my Players. the Rangers were my first examples of what Rifts Characters should be.. I can't wait to see what they are like 20+ years later
DO NOT LIE TO ME DUDE, seriously..... I LOVE that series.
You really think you're a fan, but you are that far behind the news? Here's the best Mad Max fansite with all the latest news (and even a few photos).
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The latest news was in March of 2009.
PhellaOne wrote:CyCo wrote:You really think you're a fan, but you are that far behind the news? Here's the best Mad Max fansite with all the latest news (and even a few photos).
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Nice link.
jaymz wrote:As far as I have read VKS is next.
Robotech is if they get the manuscript from Irvin and approvals from HG quickly enough (not likely) so next would be NG 1 and 2.
As for waiting. I still want Megaverse in Flames. You know the last book in The Minion War series that was slated to be out a few years ago now and keeps getting pushed back for these books that weren't even on the horizon when it was supposed to have been done already?
PhellaOne wrote:jaymz wrote:As far as I have read VKS is next.
Robotech is if they get the manuscript from Irvin and approvals from HG quickly enough (not likely) so next would be NG 1 and 2.
As for waiting. I still want Megaverse in Flames. You know the last book in The Minion War series that was slated to be out a few years ago now and keeps getting pushed back for these books that weren't even on the horizon when it was supposed to have been done already?
Hope Carl hasn't jumped ship...
Amanda-Cha'at wrote:Is Palladium Books really that bad?! That a book that has been announced is bumped back in the order of publish for years and years?
Mercdog wrote:Amanda-Cha'at wrote:Is Palladium Books really that bad?! That a book that has been announced is bumped back in the order of publish for years and years?
Unfortunately, yeah.
Palladium's problem with the release schedule is the major complaint among customers and critics. I do believe that Kev and company try their best, but sometimes it's a real labor of love being a Palladium fan waiting for a release.
Still, when the books do come out, I've only very rarely been disappointed in the quality.
Braden wrote:Thundercloud Galaxy has a flock of ducks in it that can slag a Glitterboy in one melee.
If that doesn't prompt you to buy it, I don't know what else I can say.
Braden Campbell wrote:Folks... I just this morning recieved editorial notes on a short story I submitted to Games Workshop's Black Library back in March. Five months later... and BL, as a company, is FAR larger staff-wise than Palladium.
Sometimes, a manuscript simply has to wait in cue. Other times, one project gets bumped up, which in turn puts other things behind. It happens. It's just frustrating to those of us living in a digital, on-line world used to having everything instantly and on-demand.
I too want to see the Vampire Sourcebook, since my Rifts group is currently in the Mexico setting, and I did a fair ammount of work on the book's manuscript. But the rate at which it is published is entirely out of my hands... so, I simply have to wait expectantly. And so must all of you.
Braden Campbell wrote:Folks... I just this morning recieved editorial notes on a short story I submitted to Games Workshop's Black Library back in March. Five months later... and BL, as a company, is FAR larger staff-wise than Palladium.
Sometimes, a manuscript simply has to wait in cue. Other times, one project gets bumped up, which in turn puts other things behind. It happens. It's just frustrating to those of us living in a digital, on-line world used to having everything instantly and on-demand.
I too want to see the Vampire Sourcebook, since my Rifts group is currently in the Mexico setting, and I did a fair ammount of work on the book's manuscript. But the rate at which it is published is entirely out of my hands... so, I simply have to wait expectantly. And so must all of you.
Panomas wrote:Braden,
What about games have you written any supplements?
The problem is Palladium's habit of announcing that "X" Book/s will be out "soon" and then the next thing we hear is the book is delayed, or suspended indefinitely...
Braden wrote:Thundercloud Galaxy has a flock of ducks in it that can slag a Glitterboy in one melee.
If that doesn't prompt you to buy it, I don't know what else I can say.
Amanda-Cha'at wrote:OH, I am really happy that I did not pre-order the Vampire Sourcebook then. I almost did it, I had filled out the forms and got the OK from my father to use his credit card, but paying for something that I do not know if and when it will get published, would really want me to run to the US from Denmark (hopefully i will find a rift leading there near our western coast, otherwise i might need a scuba suit) and punch the owner of Palladium Books hard on the nose.
They should really issue a strong warning when you pre-order coming books that the books might not be published for years. Because if I had gone through with it, I would have felt really cheated if they were to take years to be published. do not know what the rules for such things are in US, but here in Denmark, it is illegal to demand pay for a product and then just postpone it ad infinitum.
Braden Campbell wrote:a three-part Wormwood addendum in the Rifter
Wooly wrote:Braden Campbell wrote:a three-part Wormwood addendum in the Rifter
When?!
Braden wrote:Thundercloud Galaxy has a flock of ducks in it that can slag a Glitterboy in one melee.
If that doesn't prompt you to buy it, I don't know what else I can say.
Braden Campbell wrote:Wooly wrote:Braden Campbell wrote:a three-part Wormwood addendum in the Rifter
When?!
Oh, let's see...
Rifter
#42 (History and intro article)
#43 (a "swimsuit issue", but contains stats for the Queen of Worldgate)
#44 (Ezud - a new human kingdom)
#46 (Worldgate)
This might also be a help. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=98491&hilit=+wormwood