The Behemoth Explorer...

[MADMANMIKE]

So someone asked me to do a floor plan of this robot, and the truth is I've always kind of wanted to, so I figured I'd give it a go.. Unfortunately, the dimensions are making my head hurt... So I've had to alter them. Instead of 60ft tall, 82ft long and 20ft wide, I'm going with 60ft tall, 62ft long and 40ft wide.

When I'm making a design and have the stats to begin with, I just make a transparent block to the dimensions, and built within the block. in this case, I did one of the full dimensions, then figured the body was actually only one third of the height and made a second block that was only 20ft tall. I then did a third block that was 10x15x20 (same volume as a 15ft cube, which would be the cargobay) and placed it inside the other block for reference...

Has anyone else considered these dimensions, and is anyone else interested in seeing the results of my efforts?

-Mike <8]

[taalismn]

By all means, Mike, I'd love to see what you come up with. Having seen various online blueprint/schematic efforts for everything from the Micronauts' Microship to Macross City aboard the SDF-1, to the Lego interior plans for the CS Mark V APC and the UAR-1 Enforcer robot...let's say I'm intrigued by schematics.

[MADMANMIKE]

Addtionally-

It might have some amount of interior space taken up-with the appendages (arms and legs), I know that probably doesn't make your job any easyer-Just sayin-

Yeah, I know it's not just a simple matter of filling the entire space; there's "empty" space for the internal workings of the machine as well.. The arms for example, I leave them visible while I build the interior so I know where to edge the mechanisms. Likewise there's angled edges on all parts that are accounted for..

[Icefalcon]

I would love to see the interior of such a vehicle. As a matter of fact, I would like to see the inside of a lot of Rifts vehicles. One of the things I always wanted to know is how the crew actually gets into the vehicle in the first place.

[DhAkael]

By all means, Mike, I'd love to see what you come up with. Having seen various online blueprint/schematic efforts for everything from the Micronauts' Microship to Macross City aboard the SDF-1, to the Lego interior plans for the CS Mark V APC and the UAR-1 Enforcer robot...let's say I'm intrigued by schematics.

You did a deck plan for the Endeavour!?!

[taalismn]

By all means, Mike, I'd love to see what you come up with. Having seen various online blueprint/schematic efforts for everything from the Micronauts' Microship to Macross City aboard the SDF-1, to the Lego interior plans for the CS Mark V APC and the UAR-1 Enforcer robot...let's say I'm intrigued by schematics.

You did a deck plan for the Endeavour!?!

No, but I found a few online(http://johnmiic.deviantart.com/art/Endeavor-Deck-Plan-Alternate-97390844)...Bless the internet for allowing nerds to engage in such engineering exercises

[mobuttu]

Yes, Mike I'd be very interested in it. In fact, I even try my best to do this. Hope this helps.

[MADMANMIKE]

Yes, Mike I'd be very interested in it. In fact, I even try my best to do this. Hope this helps.

Dude, that is brilliant! Well done!

[taalismn]

Yes, Mike I'd be very interested in it. In fact, I even try my best to do this. Hope this helps.

Beautiful.

[MADMANMIKE]

Okay, I started with deck two as it's the heaviest model-wise. Next Deck 1 (cargo and lab), then deck 3 (labs, bridge and observation). After that I'll do some exterior shots to do it justice.

Deck 2

[taalismn]

Good start, and a peaceful shade of purple-pink!

[MADMANMIKE]

Good start, and a peaceful shade of purple-pink!

Ah yes, the Northern Gun standard issue survival blanket. Woven from the mane of the alien Kelt-Git-Kay (a six legged yak creature), highly durable but yes, a putrid color. An entire cottage industry has sprung up in the wastelands dying the hideous blankets blue.

[Icefalcon]

Okay, I started with deck two as it's the heaviest model-wise. Next Deck 1 (cargo and lab), then deck 3 (labs, bridge and observation). After that I'll do some exterior shots to do it justice.

Deck 2

Nicely rendered. I like the functional quality of the layout.

[mobuttu]

Okay, I started with deck two as it's the heaviest model-wise. Next Deck 1 (cargo and lab), then deck 3 (labs, bridge and observation). After that I'll do some exterior shots to do it justice.

Deck 2

Just wow

PS. Communal bath...heck! Why didn't though about that!

[mobuttu]

Yes, Mike I'd be very interested in it. In fact, I even try my best to do this. Hope this helps.

Dude, that is brilliant! Well done!

Thanks for the suport! Yours is far better!

[Wooly]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

A good rule of thumb would be one toliet for every 10 people. Bed can be stacked 3 high like on fast attack submarines. Internal shower facilities seem like a uncessary luxury. Set up some curtians and a water line when setting up camp for the night. The Behemoth Explorer isn't a cruise ship. It is designed for military and scientific expeditions. I expected it to be more spartan. Contrary to popular culture today, bathing daily is not a neccisity. My personal record is 27 days without a proper shower during the invasion of Iraq and 4 days at GenCon

[MADMANMIKE]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

A good rule of thumb would be one toliet for every 10 people. Bed can be stacked 3 high like on fast attack submarines. Internal shower facilities seem like a uncessary luxury. Set up some curtians and a water line when setting up camp for the night. The Behemoth Explorer isn't a cruise ship. It is designed for military and scientific expeditions. I expected it to be more spartan. Contrary to popular culture today, bathing daily is not a neccisity. My personal record is 27 days without a proper shower during the invasion of Iraq and 4 days at GenCon

It was designed in the Golden Age for a bunch of pampered scientists to explore the surface of Mars...

[taalismn]

Okay, I started with deck two as it's the heaviest model-wise. Next Deck 1 (cargo and lab), then deck 3 (labs, bridge and observation). After that I'll do some exterior shots to do it justice.

Deck 2

Just wow

PS. Communal bath...heck! Why didn't though about that!

Yes, but if I read your blueprints right, every quarters has its own toilet....perhaps yours is the 'First Class' version?

[MADMANMIKE]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

Those are bunk beds too... It's "accommodations for 40 (60 if cramped)".. and there are 8 showers..

[Icefalcon]

Hey-not to be a kill joy but on what deck is the water stored?

I kind of want to know this as well.

[mobuttu]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

Those are bunk beds too... It's "accommodations for 40 (60 if cramped)".. and there are 8 showers..

Hey-not to be a kill joy but on what deck is the water stored?

I has a high-efficiency atmospheric humidity condensers! or, as in planes, there are several watertight compartments through the hull.

I really don't know, but both are plausible explanations, aren't they?

[Wooly]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

Those are bunk beds too... It's "accommodations for 40 (60 if cramped)".. and there are 8 showers..

Hey-not to be a kill joy but on what deck is the water stored?

I has a high-efficiency atmospheric humidity condensers! or, as in planes, there are several watertight compartments through the hull.

I really don't know, but both are plausible explanations, aren't they?

I don't remember reading that the Behemoth Explorer was designed for Mars exploration. But wouldn't condensors be a poor choice if it was? Not much water vapor in the Martian atmosphere.

[Wooly]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

Those are bunk beds too... It's "accommodations for 40 (60 if cramped)".. and there are 8 showers..

Bunk beds aren't what most would considered pampered. I would remove the bulkheads an elimate the "rooms" for all but officers and captain

[MADMANMIKE]

Water Storage is on deck one with the cargobay and one of the labs. Likewise, there is a substantial amount of hull not shown in the image; I only showed the arms and legs because they are significant to the positioning of the features (namely the two full bathrooms that have arm mechanics behind them).

Bunk beds aren't what most would considered pampered. I would remove the blukheads and eliminate the "rooms" for all but officers and captain

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Knock yourself out. I can't wait to see what yours looks like. I'm just extrapolating from the descriptions in the books; it specifically states "10 quarters" in the books.

[DhAkael]

Hmmmm; the madding crowd here seems to be getting nitty picky beyond all ken?
Can't we just accept the gent in question is doing US a favour by at least attempting to put image to description (and by description I mean CANONICAL in-book, word-from-gawd-Kev Sim canon).
Oh right, I forgot; this is the internet, where it seems 90% are pathelogicaly incapable of being gracious and/or thankful for someone elses hard work... which, I might add in this case, they are NOT getting paid for.
IF you have the tools and talent to do better; please, by all means do so and present your work for critque.
Maybe someone will even give a nod of approval.

Anyhoo to M.M.M.; keep up the good work. Looking forwards to seeing the complete set.

[taalismn]

Besides, what are presented here can be seen as 'variants'...the basic frame might be manufactured by a single producer(and possibly a few knockoff coporations), but interiors can vary, depending on what the customer is willing to pay(especially since new-construction Behemoth Explorers are essentially custom-made; they're too expensive to mass-produce in hopes of a future surge in customers). And such design configurations don't always pan out...ten toilets might be a welcome luxury on a long trip(especially with a cook who doesn't know what they're doing), but if the water supply ain't up to it, it's going to be hell until civilization(as defined by modern plumbing) is, again, reached. Or the customer may specify the latest in recycling systems, at extra cost(unless they supply the systems themselves).

And if you have the BE offered by, say, Three Galaxies' manufacturers, the possible configurations....oye....Think what people do with RVs nowadays, and apply it to the B-Explorer..

[DhAkael]

Besides, what are presented here can be seen as 'variants'...the basic frame might be manufactured by a single producer(and possibly a few knockoff coporations), but interiors can vary, depending on what the customer is willing to pay(especially since new-construction Behemoth Explorers are essentially custom-made; they're too expensive to mass-produce in hopes of a future surge in customers). And such design configurations don't always pan out...ten toilets might be a welcome luxury on a long trip(especially with a cook who doesn't know what they're doing), but if the water supply ain't up to it, it's going to be hell until civilization(as defined by modern plumbing) is, again, reached. Or the customer may specify the latest in recycling systems, at extra cost(unless they supply the systems themselves).

And if you have the BE offered by, say, Three Galaxies' manufacturers, the possible configurations....oye....Think what people do with RVs nowadays, and apply it to the B-Explorer..

Inertial damping and non-magnetic floating joint servos for a smoother ride, reactive multi-facing variable forcefields and CG-assisted "hop" system for those ravines too dangerous to traverse.
...and this is just for EXTERIOR.
Interior; your computer systems would be 10 or even a hundred times smaller and faster / effcient (freeing up space), Med-bay with auto-surgeon and regn tank, type III materials recycling system (using nanite based recovery modules), nano-tech reconfigurable furniture, fully enclosed holographic 'virtual' observation bay...

Yeah

[taalismn]

[Inertial damping and non-magnetic floating joint servos for a smoother ride, reactive multi-facing variable forcefields, and CG-assisted "hop" system for those ravines too dangerous to traverse.
...and this is just for EXTERIOR.
Interior; your computer systems would be 10 or even a hundred times maller and faster / effcient, Med-bay with in-built auto-surgen and regn tank, type III materials recycling system (using nanite based recovery modules), nano-tech reconfigurable furniture, fully enclosed holographic 'virtual' observation bay.

Yeah

Forgot the seat massagers...

[DhAkael]

[Inertial damping and non-magnetic floating joint servos for a smoother ride, reactive multi-facing variable forcefields, and CG-assisted "hop" system for those ravines too dangerous to traverse.
...and this is just for EXTERIOR.
Interior; your computer systems would be 10 or even a hundred times maller and faster / effcient, Med-bay with in-built auto-surgen and regn tank, type III materials recycling system (using nanite based recovery modules), nano-tech reconfigurable furniture, fully enclosed holographic 'virtual' observation bay.

Yeah

Forgot the seat massagers...

True... can't go on long "walkabouts" without magic fingers

[mobuttu]

I feel that the sleeping and bathroom accomidations in those plans are far too spacious and luxurious. 20 Beds on the 2nd Deck, 8 toliets and 7 showers!

Hey-not to be a kill joy but on what deck is the water stored?

I has a high-efficiency atmospheric humidity condensers! or, as in planes, there are several watertight compartments through the hull.

I don't remember reading that the Behemoth Explorer was designed for Mars exploration. But wouldn't condensors be a poor choice if it was? Not much water vapor in the Martian atmosphere.

On Mars, the air is saturated (100% humidity) at night, but undersaturated during the day. This is because of the huge temperature difference between day and night.

-Nasa source.

[Dr Megaverse]

If we're going 3G style, why even have legs? I'd simply hook up a counter-gravity system and float the sucker along. Reconfigure a couple of robots to sample gathering and scientific research modules and you can just park the big thing mid air, hop on down in protection to do your research, and then fly back up to it when done!

With all of the aforementioned goodies as well of course!

[Nightmask]

If we're going 3G style, why even have legs? I'd simply hook up a counter-gravity system and float the sucker along. Reconfigure a couple of PAs to sample gathering and scientific research modules and you can just park the big thing mid air, hop on down in protection to do your research, and then fly back up to it when done!

With all of the aforementioned goodies as well of course!

Legs let you park it for repairs, particularly of any anti-gravity systems.

[Dr Megaverse]

If we're going 3G style, why even have legs? I'd simply hook up a counter-gravity system and float the sucker along. Reconfigure a couple of PAs to sample gathering and scientific research modules and you can just park the big thing mid air, hop on down in protection to do your research, and then fly back up to it when done!

With all of the aforementioned goodies as well of course!

Legs let you park it for repairs, particularly of any anti-gravity systems.

I suppose in my mind "legs" and "landing gear" can be referred to separately lol. Of course anything which flies needs landing gear, however that doesn't mean said landing gear can't ya know, fold up

[Icefalcon]

Why not just have the counter-gravity thrusters in the legs. That way, the machine is usable in a multitude of environments.