Antarctica

[Nekira Sudacne]

Antartica. . . why? I just don't see ANYTHING interesting there

[Uncle Servo]

Hmmm... Antarctica is a tricky subject to tackle IMO. First of all, aside from some penguins there's not much that lives down there. Second of all, aside from some penguins there's not much that lives down there.



Seriously... I can't see much being done with Antarctica unless you're dealing with a 'Savage Land' type scenario with a habitable area closed off from the rest of the world. It's not capable of sustaining much life down there, so even if it were a magic-rich environment with all sorts of monsters/D-Bees spewing forth from Rifts, there's not much likelihood of them surviving long enough to make a book worthwhile.

Also, on a personal note I'd like to think that even in Rifts Earth there's still a place where mankind has not waged war.

[Nekira Sudacne]

aaaaaaaa, sure depending on how much BS you want to put out, you can make anyplace enjoyable and playable. heck, that's what happened to China and England, and Rifts Underseas for that matter, AND mutants in orbet.

but I think there should be a wastland in Rifts that's nothing is going on. . . let's keep antartica uninhabited. JMHO

[Scyber]

Well for inspiration, go see the Alien Vs. Predator movie this summer. That takes place in Antartica.

[taalismn]

In the past there have been several online netbooks on Antarctica....sadly, all of them have since perished...
But Antarctica has great potential because of its splendid isolation....True, there might be human colonies surviving down there, but the real attraction is on what could potential lie UNDER it....science has discovered vast lakes of pristine prehistoric water...ancient meteors trapped in cold storage...

Looking for adventure ideas? Check the Lovecraftian 'At the Mountains of Madness', or the original Campbell short story 'Who Goes There?'....Even without tropical jungles springing up, one could populate the South Pole with cold-tolerant alien visitors, crystalline alien tech, air and water elementals, sentient winds, ancient Atlantean outposts, secret Cold War experiments now re-surfacing, and otherworldy phenomenon....

Antarctica is also strangely beautiful....splendid isolation...and that might make it a real nifty place for cold-adapted mages to meditate...how better to put yourself in perspective with teh rest of teh universe than in the middle of six-month night, on a seemingly infinite sheet of ice under the skies, with only a magically-sustained bubble of warmth between you and freezing to death?

Perhaps some of those scientists survived by creating new forms of magic unheard of anywhere else? Magics that could be applied to other iceballs like the outer planets?

Oh, there's potential there....

[Esckey]

I agree with Taalismn here, which is odd cause I figure the Antartic and the artic should be the absolute last books PB should ever put out. Though of all the things I've heard about antartica, never heard anything about pristine lakes under the ice. Heard about lakes that have a very good chance of still carrying bacteria and other single celled lifeforms left over from millions of years ago when it was a semi-habital place

[CyCo]

Wasn't Palladium already kicking around an Antarctica manuscript in the past?

Yes, there was. BCL submitted a manuscript for Antarctica, and I believe someone else did too. I can't remember if the one Ben did was accepted or not, but if it is, it's probably sitting on the bottom of the editing pile....

[Uncle Servo]

If humans could achieve that much before the Cataclysm, is it hard to imagine that they may have made inroads towards civilizing Antarctica? At the very least, with tensions so high between the global super powers just before the Cataclysm, there should have been a handful of military bases or outposts scattered across the continent.

Establishment of any kind of military base or outpost is forbidden by Article 1 of the Antarctic Treaty, signed 12/01/1959 and entered into force on 06/23/1961. Incidentally, as of 2003 are 45 treaty member nations.

Beanie, if you're still hot on this idea of writing up an Antarctica book then I'd recommend you take a look at this:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac ... os/ay.html

It came up in a Netscape internet search for "Antarctica" -- btw, did you know they actually have CRUISES to Antarctica? I hope there's not a 'topless deck' there like they have on other cruise lines...

[Svartalf]

sure... almost nobody goes there *unless* they are working for some university... actually, you should have said they also have the greatest percentage of PhD holders anywhere on earth...

plus they *have* to have those survival skills...
only trouble... could they really survive once the supply train went off kilter?

[Svartalf]

that's precisely what I meant ...

we're not speaking about die hard survivalists, but about college types having had to acquire some skills to live on the hard and uncushy side...

it's one thing to do with some of the modern comforts for some time, and supplement part of the diet with game, fish, and the like... another to fully go inuit... forever, and create a real settlement and society that will last over several generations...

[CyCo]

I don't think they's publish a whole book,but definitely try for Rifter.

From memory, Pall asked Ben to do the manuscript for Antartica, not the other way around.

[TechnoGothic]

Savage Land manifested at Last Hahahahahahaaa
That would be cool actually. Technology/Magic keeping part of the land unfrozen.

[Kinghawke]

for Antarctica, consider the rifts & how they reshaped the landscape and world. there Could be nothing but ice down there, or it could be completely different. possibly even the control systems for the orbital satellites that were set up to keep everything On Rifts Earth instead of allowing them to go into outer space.

[ffranceschi]

There could be an old pre-Rifts base from NEMA or Argentina still operating. Right now, all the superpowers have a base in Antartica. How do they manage to survive? Well, that one is difficult to explain (Argentina is easier because people from the continent could have evacuated to Antartica base). Perhaps they went into hybernation mode or something like that. Or they have adapted to the harsh conditions.

[Necrite]

Strange how this got necroed, and nobody bothered to mention the discussion in this thread.

Rifts® World Book: Antarctica™
Things are heating up at the frozen South Pole. Creatures from the Rifts, human survivors, magic users, demons, invasive aliens and minions of the mighty Splugorth all vie for control of the mysterious land of wonder that Antarctica has become.
* 11 new O.C.C.s like the Expedition Surveyor, Edran Temple Guard, Ilroth Game Warden & Vostok Line Guardian.
* The Ice Jungles and strange monsters of Antarctica, including many species from prehistoric Ice Age Earth.
* The Expedition, human survivors armed with Golden Age technology.
* Vostok City, subglacial home of magic users and rogues.
* The Vinson Massif, a secretive Ice Dragon enclave.
* The Kalmek Game Park, Splynncryth’s scenic Antarctic getaway.
* The Ilroth, a cold-weather Splugorth Minion race.
* Krellik aliens: swarming D-Bee monsters that threaten all.
* Lomari Nomads, Ice Witches, the Edran, Ghost Camps and more!
* Over 40 new magic spells and cold-weather magic from other books. (( Ut oh.... book isn't even started and we're seeing indications of cut and paste. Boooo))
* Ice Golems, Techno-Wizard devices and amazing polar technology.
* Written by Matthew Clements. Coming 2013.
* Size, price and release date not yet known.

[taalismn]

Hmmm,,,'Ghost Camps"...I get the feeling these are going to be like the murderous child spirits from Dinosaur Swamp....nice little oasis of warmth and possible supplies in the middle of the cold desolation? Yeah, until you get close in, then...mwahhaahahahaahhaaahhaa.....

[The Dark Elf]

Sounds like yet another good book! Looking forward to it!

[kaid]

Hmmm... Antarctica is a tricky subject to tackle IMO. First of all, aside from some penguins there's not much that lives down there. Second of all, aside from some penguins there's not much that lives down there.



Seriously... I can't see much being done with Antarctica unless you're dealing with a 'Savage Land' type scenario with a habitable area closed off from the rest of the world. It's not capable of sustaining much life down there, so even if it were a magic-rich environment with all sorts of monsters/D-Bees spewing forth from Rifts, there's not much likelihood of them surviving long enough to make a book worthwhile.

Also, on a personal note I'd like to think that even in Rifts Earth there's still a place where mankind has not waged war.

Add in magic/advanced environmental armor and demons from hell and there is a lot of things you can do with antartica to make it interesting. Heck even an homage to in the mountains of madness would work great. Elder things stirring under the mountain ranges in antarctica.

[Pepsi Jedi]

Cities under glass or environmental domes, or... drastic climate change due to the coming of Rifts and parts of Antartica being lush and forested. It's been done anumber of ways in Sci-fi. Rifts could do any one or all of them and more. That's the 'good' thing about rifts.

[mumah]

That's the 'good' thing about rifts.

Why the "good" in quotes?

[Pepsi Jedi]

That's the 'good' thing about rifts.

Why the "good" in quotes?

Because it can also be a bad thing?

Don't worry Mumah.. Your art is one of the good things in Rifts too.

[mumah]

Suck up.

[Bood Samel]

Neuswabenand and Miguel Seranno.

[The Dark Elf]

That's the 'good' thing about rifts.

Why the "good" in quotes?

Because it can also be a bad thing?

Don't worry Mumah.. Your art is one of the "good" things in Rifts too.

Ok I added that...