mentally posses others
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Re: mentally posses others
Yep pretty much. But remember your own body is in a coma like state and you have to touch the target to transfer your mind into theirs. So good luck separating one merc from the group and touching them and having them fail their save.
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Re: mentally posses others
Thinyser wrote:Yep pretty much. But remember your own body is in a coma like state and you have to touch the target to transfer your mind into theirs. So good luck separating one merc from the group and touching them and having them fail their save.
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Re: mentally posses others
alternately, if they own any machines, you can use telemechanic possession on those (from the astral plane), and then when they touch that, you have fulfilled your touch range requirement.
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Shark_Force wrote:alternately, if they own any machines, you can use telemechanic possession on those (from the astral plane), and then when they touch that, you have fulfilled your touch range requirement.
Thats a pretty liberal interpretation of the rules regarding "touch".
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Re: mentally posses others
Thinyser wrote:Shark_Force wrote:alternately, if they own any machines, you can use telemechanic possession on those (from the astral plane), and then when they touch that, you have fulfilled your touch range requirement.
Thats a pretty liberal interpretation of the rules regarding "touch".
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nilgravity wrote:I would allow it. It's not like the power is a skin secretion.
So you would allow a psychic to project himself to another plane of existence, from there to mentally posses a machine and then use the machine that he is possessing to touch the target of yet another possession ability?
Well I will say its creative but I cant say I'd allow it.
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My rule of thumb is that Astral forms can watch the physical world, but rarely interact with it. It's more like they're watching TV from another dimension.
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Re: mentally posses others
the official rules are that any power which does not require physical contact can be used on targets existing on the material plane when using astral projection to coexist. telemechanic possession does not require touch, so that part is very clearly allowed.
now i wouldn't allow telemechanic mental operation to count as touching the target, but when using telemechanic possession you are actually inhabiting the machine. you even suffer penalties when your "surrogate body" dies, and the power notes that it is the same as mentally possess others with a few exceptions (which generally deal with the fact that you're in a machine rather than a conventional living being's body, apart from the penalties should your body be destroyed). i would certainly allow the use of mentally possess others while possessing another, and if anything the connection to the machine body appears to be even stronger than that of mentally possess others. it is actually *less* risky to chain mentally possess others since death has absolutely no consequence whatsoever for the psychic.
now i wouldn't allow telemechanic mental operation to count as touching the target, but when using telemechanic possession you are actually inhabiting the machine. you even suffer penalties when your "surrogate body" dies, and the power notes that it is the same as mentally possess others with a few exceptions (which generally deal with the fact that you're in a machine rather than a conventional living being's body, apart from the penalties should your body be destroyed). i would certainly allow the use of mentally possess others while possessing another, and if anything the connection to the machine body appears to be even stronger than that of mentally possess others. it is actually *less* risky to chain mentally possess others since death has absolutely no consequence whatsoever for the psychic.
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Thinyser wrote:Yep pretty much. But remember your own body is in a coma like state and you have to touch the target to transfer your mind into theirs. So good luck separating one merc from the group and touching them and having them fail their save.
Hypnotic suggestion meet me at my place for a good time you buff strong sexy merc. Then when they come to your place suggest that they love and trust you and then just keep hitting them with mind control till it works.
Anybody with strong enough psionics to get mind control others likely has ancillary powers that will allow them if given time to set it up to bring their intended target to a safe place of their choosing.
Oh and probably prior to hitting them up with mind control attempts suggest that they take their cloths off so they can get more comfortable first that way if they some how react badly to a mind control attempt you now have a naked guy going up against a fully geared master psychic. So while their may be a bit of as scuffle the end result is not really much in doubt.
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Rolling Bear wrote:Question. With this ability can the psychic make the possessed person kill themselves or others? In reading it the description says the person possessed is like a human robot. If that's the case I'd think you could literally make them do anything.
In a current campaign we have a few powerful mercs after us and if I could posses one it could be helpful.
Before you do anything like taking yourself away from your body, gather hard intel on the group chasing you. If they are just hardware guys an improved possession may be a great idea. Not so much if they have a experienced psionic or mystic. I love MPO but hate it at the same time.
Of course they may give up the chase all together if they see their heavy ordnance guy strap on 5 fusion blocks. Then enter the camp and shout jihad!
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For another potentially broken possibility: Ectoplasm. While playing in a rather power heavy game, my GM allowed my psychic to use ectoplasm (usually in cloud form) as a distant form of touch. While I tended to use it with Teleport Object, I can see it being used for Possession.
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Re: mentally posses others
I might allow the daisy chain possession.....but I would also make it so that to get back to your body you have to back track through all the steps. With full consequences for any mistakes. So if you don't mind having 2-3 Bodies to take care of, and navigating back through the astral go right ahead....
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i had a player manage to kill a high level npc (that was planned to be semi regular as part of the cast of characters against them)
but not far into the first session with her she was possessed and stuck a rifle in her mouth and pulled the trigger
but not far into the first session with her she was possessed and stuck a rifle in her mouth and pulled the trigger
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