SolCannibal wrote:Old Ones? I would think they fit on a whole different scale, creating demonic/infernal races in the long-forgotten past as tools and servants, but not quite part of them.
Maybe not the old ones themselves, but one of the Old Ones created the 4 Apocalypse demons, who are probably somewhere between Greater and Lord in terms of power level. The merger of all 4 would rival if not exceed most Lords I think.
SolCannibal wrote:And the Yama Kings with their (renegade) connection to the Celestial Bureaucracy & stuff kind of fit the role of "pantheon agents". My thoughts at least.
Yet they are demons, quite explicitly. They wouldn't be the first example of demons being affiliated with a deific pantheon, CB2 is full of dark gods who have dark god affiliations.
Johnnycat93 wrote:SolCannibal wrote:"demon guy in the Black Forest"?
Struwwelpeter "An unknown Greater Supernatural Being, possibly a unique creature unto himself or an ancient, archaic Chaos Demon Lord"
This guy sounds scary, is he in Chaos Earth or something?
Anthar wrote:No one has mentioned the Red Flame Demons or the Nightlords yet, tsk, tsk.
Red Flame Demons are also demons from Hades, albeit ones who are basically ignored outside of Nightbane. I'm not sure if the Nightlords or any of their standard minions are considered demons, which ones do you mean, page source?
Last I checked, while people might 'consider' the Nightlords "demons", they are explicitly a bunch of super-powerful human sorcerers empowered by centuries of PPE vampirism.
Speaking of Vampires, I'm pretty sure they got lumped as 'demons' in PRPG, I don't recall seeing them called demons outside of PRPG's 1st ed bestiary though.
Zamion138 wrote:Wormwood has a demon or two not ascociated with hades/dyval. Nor are they part of the unholy host, they sre natural diminsional travlers and bi pedal.....my books on loan but its in the section talking at about the free city. I can picture him hes standing witha sword and legs kinda shoulder spread.
Probably speaking about the Shade RCC I'm guessing, next to the Rathos who I think might also be a form of demon. Not totally clear on those two. Also we have Entrancers and Morphworms.
Most tend to be part of the Host, but few beings must ALWAYS be part of you. You can always have some who go over to the Light or (more common) become mercenaries or feudal lords.
SolCannibal wrote:the respective antagonists of each pantheon given in Pantheons of Megaverse, one could easily count each grouping as wholy separate hell-realm on its own. The Galla demons (Babylonian pantheon) created & modified by Apsu are of particular interest, as they are mentioned as "distantly related to the baal-rog demon", what in itself opens room for a relation-interest-rivalry and direct involvment in the Minion War.
Some like Hades Aidoneous are explicitly mentioned as fighting over the same territory in Hades as some of the Demon Lords of Hades, on the other hand.
Of course this was with the CB1 versions of the Demon Lords, not the Dragons and Gods ones, and due to some major differences I'm not clear if they should be treated as the same entities or not. Not as similar as the Africa versions of that pantheon, that's for sure.
Never seen him but... man I hope so. This guy is a legend just like the Slaver on the cover of RMB. Well maybe not 'just like', I think the color and women made the tentacle monster slightly more popular.