Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Gradius wrote:Had a game last night against a demon that could teleport as a natural ability. I was floating off the grand with an anti-gravity belt (GM made device).

The demon's desired effect was that it teleported right on top of me in a grappling hold, and use it's own weight to bring me down onto my own Carpet of Adhesion, and keep me there stuck with it.

So my question is, can I get stuck on my own carpet of adhesion?

There is no provision in the spell to suggest that the caster has any special protection from it. Given that some spells DO have such provisions in them (and entire schools of magic with such safeguards) it would seem to suggest that there is no such protection, and that yes, you can get stuck in your own carpet.
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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Gradius wrote:Had a game last night against a demon that could teleport as a natural ability. I was floating off the grand with an anti-gravity belt (GM made device).

The demon's desired effect was that it teleported right on top of me in a grappling hold, and use it's own weight to bring me down onto my own Carpet of Adhesion, and keep me there stuck with it.

So my question is, can I get stuck on my own carpet of adhesion?


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Killer Cyborg wrote:
Gradius wrote:Had a game last night against a demon that could teleport as a natural ability. I was floating off the grand with an anti-gravity belt (GM made device).

The demon's desired effect was that it teleported right on top of me in a grappling hold, and use it's own weight to bring me down onto my own Carpet of Adhesion, and keep me there stuck with it.

So my question is, can I get stuck on my own carpet of adhesion?


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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Yes, but as the caster you can cancel your own spells before their duration runs out, so the tactic described could be expected to only buy one or two melee actions at best.
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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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A better question might possibly be...

Assuming you can control the dimensions of the carpet and make it however small you like when you first cast it...

Could such modifications be ongoing? Could someone simply alter the dimensions of the carpet so that it does not include you?

Assuming it has to be a rectangular shape then you would be in trouble if enemies were on 4 corners and you were in the middle since freeing yourself would require changing the shape in a way that has to release at least 2 of them though...
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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Tor wrote:A better question might possibly be...

Assuming you can control the dimensions of the carpet and make it however small you like when you first cast it...

Could such modifications be ongoing? Could someone simply alter the dimensions of the carpet so that it does not include you?

Assuming it has to be a rectangular shape then you would be in trouble if enemies were on 4 corners and you were in the middle since freeing yourself would require changing the shape in a way that has to release at least 2 of them though...

you would be better served with 2 separate castings in that situation IMO.
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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Ah I think I understand what you get at... first cast a 2nd carpet with dimensions that include your opponents but not you (possible 2 carpets if in the 4-corners situation I described) and then cancel the first.

Although if the shape-as-you-go carpet approach is allowed, you could only cast 1 extra carpet for 2 corners and then reshape 1st to narrow to only cover the other 2 corners.
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In some cases, you might WANT to be stuck to it. Say, if you are on the hull of a spaceship and have no other method to tether yourself.
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Re: Can you get stuck in your own Carpet of Adhesion spell?

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Kagashi wrote:In some cases, you might WANT to be stuck to it. Say, if you are on the hull of a spaceship and have no other method to tether yourself.

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