impervious to energy?

[victor15065]

Dose that work for all energy or only certain ones

[drewkitty ~..~]

All mundane energies but kinetic energy. Some GMs might also exclude fire too....I would.
Magic energy effects too.

Does not protect vs non-energy attacks like charm or dominate.....

Thus, it would protect the target of the spell from a lighting bolt (both natural and magical), it would not protect a TK thrown item.

[victor15065]

OK ty

[flatline]

Why do some GM's exclude fire?

--flatline

[Lukterran]

"The arcanist can make himself impervious to all forms of energy, including fire, heat, electricity, lasers and so on. Energy attacks do no damage whatsoever. Physical attacks, punches, kicks, knives, clubs, arrows, etc., inflict normal damage."

So yes... it does make you impervious to fire as well as all types of energy.

[drewkitty ~..~]

Why do some GM's exclude fire?

--flatline

I used the word "might" not "do".

Cause it is fire and not a directed energy weapon energy.

[The Beast]

That's still not making any sense.

[Hotrod]

Yeah, the engineer within me cringes when I see a blanket term like energy thrown around that way.

[Lukterran]

Yeah, the engineer within me cringes when I see a blanket term like energy thrown around that way.

I know what you mean Hotrod. There are numerous types of energy.

However, you just have to determine that the Game Maker was only trying to keep things simple and not include all the crazy possibilities. When he described this spell.

Basically you are impervious to:
- Electricity and electrical attacks
- Laser or Light damage
- Fire and Heat

That is the most common stuff you are going to encounter in the game as written. Without introducing things from Rifts or other games. If you do have things like RF, Microwaves, Gamma Rays, Partical Beams etc...you are probably impervious to that too (just refer to the Big Rifts book for those rulings).

However, stuff like Gravitational, Magnetic etc...you are obviously not impervious too.

[flatline]

Yeah, the engineer within me cringes when I see a blanket term like energy thrown around that way.

I know what you mean Hotrod. There are numerous types of energy.

However, you just have to determine that the Game Maker was only trying to keep things simple and not include all the crazy possibilities. When he described this spell.

Basically you are impervious to:
- Electricity and electrical attacks
- Laser or Light damage
- Fire and Heat

That is the most common stuff you are going to encounter in the game as written. Without introducing things from Rifts or other games. If you do have things like RF, Microwaves, Gamma Rays, Partical Beams etc...you are probably impervious to that too (just refer to the Big Rifts book for those rulings).

However, stuff like Gravitational, Magnetic etc...you are obviously not impervious too.

What do Ion weapons count as?

--flatline

[URLeader Hobbes]

Aside from the obvious that it's just a copy and paste job I offer the following explination:

It's "Energy" as the people of Palladium world haven't discovered electricity.

[The Beast]

Yeah, the engineer within me cringes when I see a blanket term like energy thrown around that way.

I know what you mean Hotrod. There are numerous types of energy.

However, you just have to determine that the Game Maker was only trying to keep things simple and not include all the crazy possibilities. When he described this spell.

Basically you are impervious to:
- Electricity and electrical attacks
- Laser or Light damage
- Fire and Heat

That is the most common stuff you are going to encounter in the game as written. Without introducing things from Rifts or other games. If you do have things like RF, Microwaves, Gamma Rays, Partical Beams etc...you are probably impervious to that too (just refer to the Big Rifts book for those rulings).

However, stuff like Gravitational, Magnetic etc...you are obviously not impervious too.

What do Ion weapons count as?

--flatline

IIRC, they'd fall under electricity.

[flatline]

Yeah, the engineer within me cringes when I see a blanket term like energy thrown around that way.

I know what you mean Hotrod. There are numerous types of energy.

However, you just have to determine that the Game Maker was only trying to keep things simple and not include all the crazy possibilities. When he described this spell.

Basically you are impervious to:
- Electricity and electrical attacks
- Laser or Light damage
- Fire and Heat

That is the most common stuff you are going to encounter in the game as written. Without introducing things from Rifts or other games. If you do have things like RF, Microwaves, Gamma Rays, Partical Beams etc...you are probably impervious to that too (just refer to the Big Rifts book for those rulings).

However, stuff like Gravitational, Magnetic etc...you are obviously not impervious too.

What do Ion weapons count as?

--flatline

IIRC, they'd fall under electricity.

In the West End Games Star Wars that would be true. In real life, they're usually a subset of particle beams. It's never been clear to me what the Palladium authors intend it to be.

--flatline

[victor15065]

I just ment why is there an impervious to energy spell and impervious to fire spell

[Glistam]

Yeah, the engineer within me cringes when I see a blanket term like energy thrown around that way.

I know what you mean Hotrod. There are numerous types of energy.

However, you just have to determine that the Game Maker was only trying to keep things simple and not include all the crazy possibilities. When he described this spell.

Basically you are impervious to:
- Electricity and electrical attacks
- Laser or Light damage
- Fire and Heat

That is the most common stuff you are going to encounter in the game as written. Without introducing things from Rifts or other games. If you do have things like RF, Microwaves, Gamma Rays, Partical Beams etc...you are probably impervious to that too (just refer to the Big Rifts book for those rulings).

However, stuff like Gravitational, Magnetic etc...you are obviously not impervious too.

What do Ion weapons count as?

--flatline

IIRC, they'd fall under electricity.

In the West End Games Star Wars that would be true. In real life, they're usually a subset of particle beams. It's never been clear to me what the Palladium authors intend it to be.

--flatline

Both particle beams and electricity fall under the Palladium category of "energy" so either way, ion weapons are subject to the impervious to energy spell (though how you got ion weapons in a Palladium Fantasy game is a separate issue).

[The Beast]

I just ment why is there an impervious to energy spell and impervious to fire spell

One is for most types of energy, the other is for just fire & heat.

[victor15065]

OK ty

[Razorwing]

Since Fire and Heat are going to be the most common "energy" one will encounter, it is perfectly reasonable to create a less costly protection spell to save on PPE when one doesn't need to be protected from all forms of energy. On those occasions when one does encounter additional forms of energy though, it is nice to have the ability to protect oneself... even if it is more costly.

Options are good.

[victor15065]

Agreed

[Cinos]

While I would never dispute the intention of the spell includes fire, I dislike the blanket spells a lot, and found after drawing back on this (and similar) spells blanket immunity, the specialized ones where actually taken by players, and it created a bit more of a situational use, letting them sweep through some targets when they where immune, but have to think more about non-immune opponents. Even just Immune to Laser's is a hugely potent spell in rifts.

As to the OP's question, the spell as written is intended to be all non-kentic energy, so nearly everything that's not a melee attack, thrown, arrows, guns, rail guns, thrown ships, and the like. Particle beams are grey to me, and I'm not 100% on Plasma, which PB's likes to flip flop around on defining what it is (I'd say yes to the spell as written, since the spell works on other MD effects, unlike some other fire immunity). I'd also agree that PB's very vague wording on something like the blanket term 'Energy". There's a lot of energy that being immune to would prove very lethal.

[flatline]

I have never understood why particle beams are considered energy weapons.

You're being struck by a particle that is traveling at relativistic speeds. Why isn't that considered a kinetic attack?

--flatline