How do Doppelgangers, Hounds etc get to our world?

ghost2020 · Unread post by **ghost2020** » Wed May 13, 2015 6:08 pm

How do Doppelgangers, Hounds, etc get to our world from the Nightlands?

I don't recall them having any mirrorwalk abilities.

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Wed May 13, 2015 6:26 pm

With the Nightlands now more aligned with Earth since Dark Day, a number of Nightlord & Night Princes have sent squads to Earth, mostly at the command of Moloch but a few also send forces to bolster their own position in the Nightlords' hierarchy.
Without the capacity to MirrowWalk in most of their forces, some Nightlords & Princes have Shadow-Mages & Witches open portals from secure locations in the Nighlands equivalents of each city (Moloch rules Doom's Harbor, the Nightlands counterpart to New York City) wihich open on the same locations on Earth. Most are underground with connecting abandoned or 'closed for maintenance' subway tunnels. These provide excellent sites to move large numbers quickly around a city with little to no interference (who's going to miss the odd maintenance worker in these troubled times?). Not to mention the odd random portal that pops up occasionally in the Nightlands that sweeps the odd pack of creatures to Earth unexpectedly.....

ghost2020 · Unread post by **ghost2020** » Sat May 16, 2015 7:06 pm

How about the mirror walk? A few pics show doppelgangers coming through mirrors, was that an omission or they actually do not have that ability?

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Mon May 18, 2015 1:01 am

I don't recall seeing that ability. Nightlords might employ some Mirror Mages to Create Scroll and give the scrolls to dopplegangers they're gonna send.

ghost2020 · Unread post by **ghost2020** » Mon May 18, 2015 1:43 pm

Nightlords already have the ability.

I would imagine the doppelgangers, masters, ashmedai,and hounds, etc get through via 'official means', and renegade types get through via other portals or gates.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Sat May 30, 2015 11:56 pm

Maybe they just use big Dimensional Portal dumps.

Or a 2-step Astral Portal means would be cheaper.

Could be a major function of the Nightlords' astral realms: act as a mid-point for astral-portal dropping of Dopplegangers.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:37 am

I always thought temporary rifts.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:46 am

That's what Dimensional Portal creates, Astral Portal more cheaply.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:43 pm

Oh sorry, same thing different title. ^^

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:20 am

Hounds and hunters can mirror walk.

flatline · Unread post by **flatline** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:03 am

Tor wrote:That's what Dimensional Portal creates, Astral Portal more cheaply.

Could you expand on this a bit?

Ed · Unread post by Ed » Mon May 16, 2016 2:02 pm

flatline wrote:
Tor wrote:That's what Dimensional Portal creates, Astral Portal more cheaply.

Could you expand on this a bit?

I took it to mean an astral portal from the night lands to the astral, then from the astral to the "real" world.

Lord Loppage · Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:51 pm

Sir_Spirit wrote:Hounds and hunters can mirror walk.

No they can not. This has been a talked about so often due to the pictures. Although the pics are cool looking, they are incorrect. They were commissioned before all the rules were set in the game. So they are send by a Nighlord, Avatar, or summoned by a night priest, or Mirror mage (or anyone really with a summon spell).

Lord Loppage · Unread post by **Lord Loppage** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:41 pm

And now I’ve been corrected. Hounds, Hunters, and Houndmasters do have the mirror walk ability as per Rifter #48.

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:45 pm

Lord Loppage wrote:And now I’ve been corrected. Hounds, Hunters, and Houndmasters do have the mirror walk ability as per Rifter #48.

Great! Thanks, I was not aware of that! Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention.

Axelmania · Unread post by **Axelmania** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:52 am

Lord Loppage wrote:And now I’ve been corrected. Hounds, Hunters, and Houndmasters do have the mirror walk ability as per Rifter #48.

>Mark Oberle, Irvin Jackson and Kevin Siembieda
>not Carella

We should honestly consider this and Survival Guide to be "Nightbane 2nd Edition". Without Carella they've basically been taking his content in new directions.

"the same as Nightbane" suddenly makes mere Hounds more proficient with Mirrorwalking than Shadow Warlocks.

If you must give it to someone, give it only to the Hound Masters IMO and require them for transporting normal hounds and hunters across.

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