Zombie how you deal mass combat

[darkguyver]

Rifts® Chaos Earth® Sourcebook: Resurrection

How do deal with mass zombie combat how do you give damage to players when in mdc armor?
Speaking of chaos zombie

[Spinachcat]

Good question. I'm interested in hearing from anyone using the Resurrection sourcebook because this is exactly been my key concern. I am surprised the sourcebook didn't address this.

[Greepnak]

sdc zombies grapple and entangle all day long, gnawing fruitlessly on the armored body parts but still effectively burdening/entangling/burying the mdc armored character beneath the weight... there's a short story from a glitterboy pilot buried under hundreds of chaos zombies as he runs out of air.

Mechanically I'd just group it up... this dice roll is not for ONE zombie, it is for 20 ( of say, 100)

[Axelmania]

I guess the problem if 2 zombies are entangling the same arm, is while you can spend 1 action to roll dodge to attempt escape, that might be once per entangle, so it could be many to get free.

Of course... can a zombie even entangle you if you don't attack him, since it's a defense? It should probably be allowed as an attack too.

[Glistam]

Pretty sure Chaos Zombies can power punch for 1 Mega-Damage.

[Axelmania]

True dat, TBH hadn't looked them up until now...

how do you give damage to players when in mdc armor?
Speaking of chaos zombie

Pg 38 "They possess Augmented Strength and can even inflict minor M.D.C. with a power punch (counts as two attacks)."

Pg 40 "equivalent to Augmented Strength and inflicts 1 M.D. from power punch attacks"

Pg 41 "Power Punch does 1 M.D. but uses both of its attacks for that melee round."

Mass combat should be easy: 1 MD per zombie per melee.

Makes me wonder if you attack then during a power-punch windup if they can bail (wasting their 1st attack) to spend their 2nd (not used yet since they haven't thrown the punch, it lands on the 2nd attack I think was clarified somewhere) to try and entangle you.

Some naughty wizard running around casting Superhuman Strength spell (supernatural PS 30) on these guys after you've waded into an underestimated-mob could also be problematic.

[Warmaster40k]

So the thing to worry about even from sdc zombies, is pinning not being able to move and dehydration or suffocation if you cant escape.

[Axelmania]

Pg 38 "They possess Augmented Strength and can even inflict minor M.D.C. with a power punch (counts as two attacks)."

Pg 40 "equivalent to Augmented Strength and inflicts 1 M.D. from power punch attacks"

Pg 41 "Power Punch does 1 M.D. but uses both of its attacks for that melee round."

Mass combat should be easy: 1 MD per zombie per melee.

In rereading this post I need to go back and contradict myself because I had forgotten how Augmented PS power punches worked.

Augmented PS used to require PS 35 to do the 1 MD power punch. This was later loosened by RUE (or maybe revised CB, can't find the 2002 version to check) to only require PS 24.

Pg 40 gives Chaos Zombies a PS of 20+1D4 so technically only 25% of them should be able to do the MD punch? Those with 20-23 should be out of luck?

That or we view "inflicts 1 MD" as a special ability for Chaos Zombies separate from their PS, so it doesn't matter if it's below 24.

That or just give them all bodybuilding+athletics to guarantee they get PS 24. The resulting SDC boost wouldn't hurt, these guys just aren't that durable.

[Glistam]

All Chaos Zombies can inflict 1 Mega Damage with a power punch.