Colonel Wolfe wrote:cornholio wrote:Tyciol wrote:The Immovable Objects always beats the Unstoppable Force.
When something says 'destroys everything' it's implied that they mean 'everything destroyable'.
I'm not sure why this is coming into debate, didn't they edit that Synchro cannon thingy to do 1D4 million MD or some weirdness? I wouldn't know, don't have Robotech.... sounds like good damage, better than you see for the spaceships out there... shameless...
Besides, if the Book describes the Cannon as destroying everything in space, but 'only' 2D4 Million damage to a planetary body, one may just assume that the Book Author was saying ''OK, this beam doesn't REALLY destroy EVERYTHING that it touches, but if your Ship is in the path of the beam....''roll up'' a new Ship.
Just as the beam wouldn't destroy a Greater or Greates Rune Weapon, they also wouldn't destroy the Artifact. Despite the truth thay they dea out MILLIONS of MDC, the Articfact has BILLIONS of MDC....and since each Billion is a thousand Millions, your vaunted Robotech Main Cannons, for all their power, are essentially doing the same damage as the Baseball Bat vs. Tank Example in the Rifts Main Book..........
The SDF-1's Main canon as printed in the Robotech RPG book1:
1. The Main Gun/Reflex Cannon. This is part of the original Robotech Master weapon restored. It does devastating amounts of damage, but draws so much energy that it can only fire once every ten minutes. The original SDF-1 design was slightly flawed, which meant that many times the gun could not fire at all, or fired once and only once.
When the Pinpoint Barrier or force field is engaged, the main gun can not fire. Also, because of irreparable damage from the disappearance of the fold system, the reflex cannon can only fire in the Battloid-like mode.
Primary Purpose: Assault
Secondary Purpose: Anti-Warship
Mega-Damage: Absolutely destroys EVERYTHING in its path of fire. That's
an energy beam approximately two miles (3.2km) wide and 60,000 miles
long.
Range: 60,000 miles (96,480km)
Rate of Fire: Once every two minutes. After the first shot, roll on the following
table for each shot to follow.
1-25 Energized and ready to fire.
26-50 Requires an additional ten minutes to recharge.
51-75 Requires an additional twenty minutes to recharge.
76-00 Will not fire; needs 24 hours to recharge.
Payload: Unlimited
There is nothing about "2D4xmillion" in the description.
As for this Artifact Veruse a Zentradia Fleet.
The Imperial Fleet Assigned to Capture the SDF-1 was 1 Million Ships. 90% of these Had a Canon Simmiler to that of the SDF-1 (but on deal 2D6xMillion to a planet, With 200,000Mile Range in Space). Thats should be plenty of Damage... around 2D6x 1,000,000,000,000 Mega-Damage.
Extrapolation, Colonel.
A]] There are other Guns at least as powerful as the SDF-1's, with similar range, width of beam, and destructive capability, notably the forward primary weps on the Zentraedi Command Ships (
GEEK ALERT: I am a Robotech Junkie....or at least a former one . The Robotech Masters Scientist known as Zor, who perfected the Protoculture Matrix, also designed much of the original SDF-1, including the Main Gun [the Tech/Specs for the Main Gun was 'standard' in the Zentraedi Fleet, at least for the largest of their Ships], before he or one of his clones ran off with it). Perhaps I had (I say HAD the Books) a revised edition of the Robotech Books for Palladium; in those books, they allowed that even though the Main Weapon of the SDF-1 would simply destroy
any Ship then known, it would
only do several million damage to a planetary Body, granted it was several miles wide, and about 2-4 miles into the Planetary Crust.
B]] Your Exponent is a few decimal places off. You have the damage to a planet listed as 2D6 times one
trillion, itself a
thousand billions. I will state once again that the Artifact has
Billions of MDC, which is
at least hundreds of times more than those Cannons can muster at
maximum strength, 2D6 times one
Million.......
C]] If by 2D6 X 1
Trillion, you mean an entire Zentraedi fleet against the Artifact, then you're not arguing Irresistable Force versus Immovable Object, now are you?? You're now arguing
millions of Irresistable Forces against ONE Immovable Object, correct??? In that case, I could simply get Billions of Creatures/Ships that all do ONE MDC each and have then fire simultaneously for the same effect, right. Unless mistaken, I do believe that the name of this Post was "Immovable
Object versus Irresistable
Force, right????
D]] Why are the Zentraedi Ships allowed to move into position, but the Artifact cannot??? You realize that with its unmatched micro Space-Fold capabilities (up to 500 Light-Years worth of Space Jumps,
per day), it could decimate even a fleet of Millions of Zentradi, and possibly with very little damage itself (Supercomputer with IQ of 30 making guerilla attacks, then space-folding to a distant or protected location before the Target is even aware of what hit him) Jumping in, striking, and jumping back out again and again and again.....................meanwhile, the Space Fold Systems of the Zentraedi are nowhere near as advanced...
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