colgatecla wrote:Very true but then again D&D usually has an errata for a particular book up on their website within a week if not earlier. Nor do they wait for the fanbase to search the errata for them. Who knows when the errata for RUE will be posted.
From what I understand, it usually because D&D players will email any mistakes they find, and usually within a week all the hardcore players already have the book that just came out and already gone through it with a fine tooth comb. They are just hard core like that. Palladium has a few fans who are that bad, but I don't see it as hard core as D&D. So, they tend to just sit back and go with the flow.
You almost sound proud about it. As far as I see it nothing to be proud of. The proper amount of time to make RUE perfect should have been planned ahead of time. I know it sound easier said than done but Rifts is the flagship line of the company. It deserves the best. It's not like there we were behind KS head holding a gun saying "get it done for Gencon or else".
I would have preferred a later release date. whether it was Gencon or 2 months after it or christmas time Palladium has a large and loyal fanbase. the book would have done well whenever it was coming out.
Well, if you've ever seen a rifts book get done (I have), you'd understand how awesome the accomplishment of RUE truely is. So that is something to be proud of and for the amount of mistakes it had wasn't so bad. As for holding off or getting the book at con, I'd have been angry not to have gotten it at con. Just two differing opinions is all. It seemed like a fiting place to put out RUE. So, no no one gamer was behind kevin with a gun saying "Produce...or else"...but, he probably sees it on more my level than yours, in that having it out by gencon was proirity 1.
Dark Brandon wrote:You are wrong. It's going to have errors. Palladium is still a small buisness. In the world of RPG's being 2nd best doesn't mean anything.
Remember I said relatively error free not error free. I knew there would be errors in the book it's become almost a standard for Palladium. if it were any other book besides RUE I would not be so "anal retentive" as you put it.
Rifts is their flagship line. I foolishly thought they would pull out all the stops for this one. And content wise they did. But when you have an errata thread which is about 12 pages long it's nothing to be happy about. Saying to someone who bought RUE and is unhappy with the errors and saying "It's palladium just suck it up" is asking to get bashed in the face with the book.
That thread is also full of people arguing over things agreeing with one mistake, whining about others...ect...I wonder if this is the thread where I whined about Crazies and their auto-dodge bonuses. Either way it's not purely full of errors. Even this discussion has nothing really to do with errata, just the premis of it. You begin to wonder about how much errors there truely are.
I know I cannot change how the company is run but come on they have had 20 years to fix the editing problems. You cannot tell me they have not been able to at leat find someone good enough or trustworthy enough to do it.
They have. But none the less they are still a small(er) buisness. If your a good editor your gonna go somewhere where it makes you more money. you basically pay for what you can get. I'm not saying the editors in palladium are bad, but they arn't the best either because if they were the best, palladium probably couldn't afford to pay them.
On this I will disagree too many book of late have and continue to have small errors scattered in them. Hell they even misspelled the name of one of their writers on the MercOps cover. Maybe they will get better but imo they will not.
They probably won't. Not yet at least. Not until they start making some great money, which maybe the movie and game will do. Maybe it wont.
As for money I do not know either but the fact that they are still around and producing books means they are not hurting. And that they reprint their books is a good sign. Most companies today usually do not print some of their older books. Companies that are doing that are doing well imo
Maybe. I never said they were hurting. I said they made enough to stay afloat and expand slightly.
Also I never said they were floating in money you did.
I was giving extream views. I said some will see it like me, some will see palladium is rolling in money (Never said you), and soe will believe it's somewhere in between.
As for the releases they are pretty steady actually. Mostly Rifts titles but they are publishing more than some other small companies are.
Yes, they are steady. From what I know palladium is like one of the 3rd biggest RPG's companies out there. But, for a company, they are still rather small, but they are big enough to get a few books out every so often.
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If it's not the Coalition Samas pilot in the RMB not getting the skill it's the Glitter boy pilot in RUE. I hope the fix this in the second printing. How they managed to miss that in editing is beyond me.