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Unbeknownst to ARCHIE-3, a Cyberworks rival firm was commissioned to devise their own advanced AI system(as part of a competitive bid) and it was fieldtested as part of SHADOW NORAD, and being spread throughout several fortified locations, has survived....GUARDIAN has been slowly moving behind such groups as Bandito Arms and Area 51, hoping to infiltrate such installations as Lone Star and acquire more manufacturing facilities and access to a more diverse arsenal....In time, the two machines may begin their own cold war without ever knowing it, but once they do...North America may become the battleground for two ancient machine intelligences....

Actually from what I read about Rommel is that he never supported the racist views of the regime. He was a solder, not a politician.

KalamariKid wrote:

taalismn wrote:Unbeknownst to ARCHIE-3, a Cyberworks rival firm was commissioned to devise their own advanced AI system(as part of a competitive bid) and it was fieldtested as part of SHADOW NORAD, and being spread throughout several fortified locations, has survived....GUARDIAN has been slowly moving behind such groups as Bandito Arms and Area 51, hoping to infiltrate such installations as Lone Star and acquire more manufacturing facilities and access to a more diverse arsenal....In time, the two machines may begin their own cold war without ever knowing it, but once they do...North America may become the battleground for two ancient machine intelligences....

...and so we discover the KLS counter-part to the ARCHIE project; an entity of cold, calculating intelligence, with access to dangerous, forgotten scientific secrets - the lost augmentation lore of Harrison Danilek, the secret of producing the ancient Chromium Gaurdsman, and other technologies which border on magic compared to current post-Rifts technology... A titanic struggle between intelligences which approach divine levels, without the constraints of human morals and ethics to constrain them in their race to prove which computer intelligence will lead the human race in the Epoch of Steel to follow....

Holy crap cakes Batman, I was practically sweating melodrama there

Davros reveals himself as the power behind Bradford...and the Mk5 Dalek is born in Rifts Terra

The Cosmic Forge is actually the mutated equivalent of a Maytag appliance that has created a myth of its own significance to appeal to its sense of vanity...it's actually not all that powerful, but it doesn't want to admitt, nor others to discover, that it's really a glorified piece of kitchen equipment that got dumped by its owners by the cosmic wayside in the Three Galaxies while on their way to someplace else WORTH seeing....

KalamariKid wrote:- What if the Great Cataclysm had of happened a day before or after it did, not producing the necessary energy to bring Atlantis back to Earth? Would the Splugorth still have been interested in the planet? Or the Atlanteans, for that matter?

Splynncryth is a chocaholic...He'd have invaded and established his kingdom in South/Central America instead....


What if? The Arkhons established a viable beachhead and attained local space superiority over the Orbitals?

What if the Arkons came in peace!

What if the Arkons were stopped dead in their tracks by the orbitals?

What if instead of NEMA/the Republicans, the most powerful (human) organization with direct ties back to pre-Rifts America was something like the MacDonald's franchise chain...or Wal-Mart?

What if Ludicrous Mages deposed Allister Dunscon and set up ENTERTAINMENT(with bite) as the unifying goals of the Federation of Magic?

What if the Burger Wars were fought between NATIONALIST fast-food chains? Burger Czar vs McArthur's vs Tojo's TeaHouse Vs Mussolini's Pastaland....

There is NOW.....

Italian assassins garroting enemy Mascot-Troopers with reinforced sphagetti....Kitchen ninja trained in the ways of poison-coated throwing chopsticks....And beware the WHOPPER BARRAGE! And, of course, BIG MAC ATTACK!!!

Hmmm....the oceans of the Earth begin draining away via some unknown mechanism, resulting in receeding oceans...ocean industries, the ecology, and the weather begin to suffer....
(the oceans are actually being drained out through deep oceanic dimensional Rifts)

MOdern-era Earth...or any period in time back to the colonization of the Western Hemisphere...becomes a refuge for mythical beasts and beings fleeing a genocidal war on THEIR world that puts human prejudices and stupidity to shame....While still the majority on their own world, the people of Earth must make a peace with the prospect of living alongside giants, faerie-folk, merhumans, and even dragons who have no where else to go....

And then thousands of tracked beertrucks roll over most of Europe,
dispersing sausages to civilians.

Adios
KLM

KLM wrote:And then thousands of tracked beertrucks roll over most of Europe,
dispersing sausages to civilians.

Adios
KLM

SCHNIZLE!!!!!!

(don't mind my terrible spelling)

Columbus sails for the English....

Shakespeare emigrates to the New World....

The Vikings invent gunpowder....

Bhuddism supplants Chrsitianity as the major religion of Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire....

What if a planetoid came from deep space and takes up an orbit opposite our moon?

Elvis Lives.....

Kennedy wasn't assassinated

Cold wwar got hot

Beatles never became a sensation

the 80's never happened

no 911

no gulf war 2

A dimension where every planet with intelligent life is earth of a different historic alteration. that would be confusing. But that would be just plain weird

An Earth where everybody is conscious of astrally visiting other Earths during their night-time sleep cycle....Possibly even possessing or living as other people during that time...

Well since I brought this up in another thread and theres alot of alternate earth stuff...

What if the Nazis (Or some equally nafarious 'group') used the happy face instead of the swastica?

Or for what ever reason some equally common and 'good' thing was altered drastically into basically meaning the imbodiment of evil as the swastica was? Since you know it was and is a good luck symbol and all. It was simply perverted by the Nazi's use of it.

You could make a whole world where there's a number of these opposites. The immage of a dove is used by a nafarious warlord controled faction, the peace symbol is linked with some widely known devil worshiping cult.

A world where Germany won WW2, a world shattered by the Cold War, a world where Global Warming has melted all the ice (ala Water World). Heck even a world where there are sentient matresses (Ala HHGTTG)

Pi=2
Now that's weird for real. Wrap your heads around that one.

An overpopulated, polluted, and overstressed Earth, where institutionalized cannibalism and mass suicides seem a heartbeat away...is offered a second chance by alien benefactors to become their minion-race and favored underlings in return for food, space, and life-saving technology...


The alien benefactors could be Splugorth, or Naruni, or some other big imperialistic species looking to score a lot of cheap labor, disposable cannon-fodder, and cheap thrills doling out miracles to the desperate masses.....

How about that there is a world where the event in every movie take place.

Darkmax wrote:Napolean was Italian?!

Corsican, actually....

Napoleon orders his army to pack winter clothing before invading Russia....and makes damn sure his troops have 'em if they can't afford the gear...

Napoleon refuses to sell Louisiana to the young United States...

Russian herdsmen successfully domesticate the mammoth....

Columbus discovers an unexpectedly risen Atlantis before ever reaching North America....

What if the Russian's refused to sell Alaska?

The Earth is divided among major powerblocs led by different Children's Programming icons....some people of the world hail Barnie the Purple Dinosaur(& FRiends), others enlist in the service of Big Bird, others follow the banner of Bozo the Clown, while a few fringies subscribe to the teachings of Mister Rogers and Bart Simpson....

The Teletubbies were quietly crushed by one of the International Brigades of the Sesame Street Alliance....

The Muppets were just one facet of the vaster Hensonite dynasty(much like how most of the European aristocracy was interrelated).... Sesame Street had the advantage of representing a far greater ethnic cross-section and having greater international support than either Barnie, Teletubbies, or any of their rivals....

...The tyranny of total predictability....

George Washington remains loyal to England and refuses to lead the Revolutionary Army....

Deep Atlantic and Pacific waters inhabited by sea monsters, making ocean travel historically difficult, if not impossible, to cross(advanced development of iron-hulled ships or airships?).

MOngol-Chinese successfully invade Japan.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki spared atomic bombings...instead a bomb is detonated offshore of Tokyo to demonstrate its power....

Wasn't the Mongols who invaded successfully...or at least they weren't known as the Mongols at the time...but I refer to the post-Genghis Chinese...


Recommended Reading: What If? 1&2, edited by Robert Cowley...essays on What Ifs....What if the Battle of Hastings had gone the otehr way, if Charles 1 of England had died of plague, if Adolf Hitler had survived to go to trial, if FDR had been assassinated, if the Franco-Prussian War hadn't taken place, if Pizarro hadn't found the Indians eating potatoes, if Martin Luther had been burned at the stake as a heretic, what if the Australians hadn't delayed the Japanese advance across New Guinea(under some of the most deplorable conditions ever known)....Good reading from some sharp minds.

Those are some more nice new alternate dimensions!

Alternate Reality: Japan island chain is located offshore of California as part of an extended chain of islands pushed up by the Pacific Plate...colonization is by the American indians and later by the ocean-hopping Chinese who then cross the 'Nihon Channel' to investigate California.

duck-foot wrote:What if the Ice Age never ended.
how would this have effected the world

We would all be rubbing our noses together instead of kissing and polar bears would rule the planet.

Tectonic Entities take over all of our automobiles....

taalismn wrote:Tectonic Entities take over all of our automobiles....

nah, Tectonic Entities power automobiles...

Ecto(plasmic) power, Spectral Torque, Ethereal watt.

Or my personal favorite, Spook juice.

Well, our cars ALREADY own us....


All human history is a series of carefully staged events by extraterrestrials who are filming the human saga as entertainment(ala 'The Truman Show'). Now some humans have discovered what the script is leading up to.....

And just to mess with our heads, they render half the population out of phase with the rest...both halves think they've been left behind and the other half taken away, when in reality they've simply been transposed into adjacent realities....
Now a few dimensional travellers(or local psychics who have awakened to their powers) who can see BOTH realities are trying to spread word of the truth without being permanently institutionalized....

Technically we could be on the berge of the start of another Ice age. According to certain climitologist we could experience an ice age if certain things occur in our environment. This is even with the global warming.

I wish I could say I am surprised by the prospect of snow in the middle of April, but I KNOW I predicted as much back in December...and darn it, I may right(or at least freezing rain)....
Watching the local squirrels go insane restocking for cold weather, though, makes up for it....

Second Ice Age starts inexplicably at the Equator, with massive glaciation starting in tropical waters and equatoriual regions, while global warming melts away the poles and upper latitudes.....Scientists suspect basic rules of the universe warped...

Alternate Universe...the Day After Humaity discovers from the astronomers that the solar system is merely one atom in the skin of what appears to be an enormous frog(or posterior end of a large animal, etc....)....

Each contenant is a free floating land-mass, large scale collisions are rare but are a constant threat.

A large number of the animal kingdom have attained self-awareness and are rather upset about the devouring of their forebearers.

The Atlanteans have returned to Earth, and they ain't happy about all of these 'inferior beings'(all of us) grubbing up their planet...

taalismn wrote:The Atlanteans have returned to Earth, and they ain't happy about all of these 'inferior beings'(all of us) grubbing up their planet...

Of course then we just remind them that it wasnt us "inferior beings" that obliterated a continent and caused a multi-dimensional catastrophe.

And if that dont shut 'em up then we introduce them to some good old fashioned human violence.

Atlantean: "I shall summon up a mighty tiger to end your pathetic existence"

Inferior being; "Wow, thats really cool, but you see this here, this is what we call a fully automatic assualt rifle. Watch this."

Stupid Atlanteans.

But the Atlanteans were responsible for that small little problem.

The world is ruled by the various factions of scientists and the Earth becomes a place for advanced research including medicine, genetics and tech with constant scientist factions battling and testing each other with there new technologies and methods (think giant games of chess).

The moon crashed into the Earth 100,000 years ago.

The Earth is a scorching desert with temperatures ranging from 100 degrees C to 300 degrees C. Everyone lives under the Earth's surface.

In 1938 5 space ships crach land on Earth,in the US,France,Germany,USSR and China.

Hitler delay the take over of Poland,ther is a race fine the secrets of the Alien ships and ther tech.
Hitler was killed in 1941,also that year Japan did not attack Pearl harbor for fear of the alien tech they still did not understand.

The US and France have survivors of the Ships and are geting help from them,By 1947,the Tech level is 50 years highter then the rest of the World.

The US and France both got into space and Spit the Moon between them.