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The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:[This is more me griping about sloppy skill creation than an actual problem with the skill itself. Sorry for being the resident curmudgeon.

taalismn wrote:

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:[This is more me griping about sloppy skill creation than an actual problem with the skill itself. Sorry for being the resident curmudgeon.

Curmudgeonry is perfectly acceptable, if done right(no, I am NOT going to post a curmudgeonry skill).
Frankly, I'd consider diabetic(or any specialized diet) to be a facet of an existing cooking skill with regards to component selection and preparation, and at best a style tacked to an existing professional cooking skill/profession. Especially since with published guidelines on hand, a person with reasonable cooking skills and a little attention to ingredients can prepare adequate meals suitable for a diabetic(just as a little care and attention can avoid poisoning by peanut allergy or other special consideration). No need to load skill overburden when 'cooking' can cover a broad spectrum of food preparation.
Now if you were, say, a human, preparing a meal for a non-human of wholly different biochemistry, that would constitute a wholly different skill.

NMI wrote:Already exists a Military Tactics skill

Robotech Shadow Chronicles

Military Tactics: Study and application of military strategy, tactics and forces. The character is well versed in current tactical threands and the proper, and often unconventional, use of military units to secure victory. Students of Military Tactics are also educated in the historical military tactics, since much can be learned from the history of warfare, and can analyze enemy forces and movements to decipher the tactics of their commanding officers. Bonus: Adds +10% to Detect Ambush and Detect Concealment. Base Skill: 35% +5% per level

Robotech: Macross Saga Sourcebook

Theater Warfare: Surface, Submarine, Ground or Aerospace

13eowulf wrote:

taalismn wrote:

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:[This is more me griping about sloppy skill creation than an actual problem with the skill itself. Sorry for being the resident curmudgeon.

Curmudgeonry is perfectly acceptable, if done right(no, I am NOT going to post a curmudgeonry skill).
Frankly, I'd consider diabetic(or any specialized diet) to be a facet of an existing cooking skill with regards to component selection and preparation, and at best a style tacked to an existing professional cooking skill/profession. Especially since with published guidelines on hand, a person with reasonable cooking skills and a little attention to ingredients can prepare adequate meals suitable for a diabetic(just as a little care and attention can avoid poisoning by peanut allergy or other special consideration). No need to load skill overburden when 'cooking' can cover a broad spectrum of food preparation.
Now if you were, say, a human, preparing a meal for a non-human of wholly different biochemistry, that would constitute a wholly different skill.

Perhaps what would be best is a Food Science skill as a companion to Cooking.
Food science (also called bromatology) is the applied science devoted to the study of food. The Institute of Food Technologists defines it as "the discipline in which the engineering, biological, and physical sciences are used to study the nature of foods, the causes of deterioration, the principles underlying food processing, and the improvement of foods for the consuming public."
as for a skill %, how about 25% +5% PLE, and adds a +5% to Brewing, and +10% to Cooking.

but if we are gonna get into Food skills we cant overlook Gastronomy, the art of food eating (and yes, it is a real thing). It is also the study of food and culture, with a particular focus on gourmet cuisine. One who is well versed in gastronomy is called a gastronome, while a gastronomist is one who unites theory and practice in the study of gastronomy. However I am not sure that it deserves a % of its own, maybe just add to other skills.

Mephisto wrote:

taalismn wrote:Gastronomy sounds more like a Technical category skill, sort of a Lore: Cooking.
Likewise, consider Viticulture and Oenology, the former of which deals with grape-growing, the latter with wine-making,
Viticulture should belong with the Technical skills of agriculture(rather than Domestic, like Gardening), while Oenology is trickier, since it could be Domestic(along with Brewing), though some would say it's properly a SCIENCE, with elements of Botany and Chemistry(though I'd argue that Botany and Chemistry should give minor bonuses to a taken skill in Viticulture, especially if you're selecting plantings and testing soil chemistry).

Did you intentionally make an Iron Chef skill program?

abe wrote:

Mephisto wrote:

taalismn wrote:Gastronomy sounds more like a Technical category skill, sort of a Lore: Cooking.
Likewise, consider Viticulture and Oenology, the former of which deals with grape-growing, the latter with wine-making,
Viticulture should belong with the Technical skills of agriculture(rather than Domestic, like Gardening), while Oenology is trickier, since it could be Domestic(along with Brewing), though some would say it's properly a SCIENCE, with elements of Botany and Chemistry(though I'd argue that Botany and Chemistry should give minor bonuses to a taken skill in Viticulture, especially if you're selecting plantings and testing soil chemistry).

Did you intentionally make an Iron Chef skill program?

yes, did you?

taalismn wrote:

abe wrote:

Mephisto wrote:

taalismn wrote:Gastronomy sounds more like a Technical category skill, sort of a Lore: Cooking.
Likewise, consider Viticulture and Oenology, the former of which deals with grape-growing, the latter with wine-making,
Viticulture should belong with the Technical skills of agriculture(rather than Domestic, like Gardening), while Oenology is trickier, since it could be Domestic(along with Brewing), though some would say it's properly a SCIENCE, with elements of Botany and Chemistry(though I'd argue that Botany and Chemistry should give minor bonuses to a taken skill in Viticulture, especially if you're selecting plantings and testing soil chemistry).

Did you intentionally make an Iron Chef skill program?

yes, did you?

Iron chef occ!!!! taal i want to see your rifts cyborg chef
No, I didn't. Though for Rifts, I did create a culinary school training program and specialized bionic conversion for Full-Conversion Cyborg Professional Chefs. Does that count as an 'Iron Chef'?

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:[

Iron chef occ!!!! taal i want to see your rifts cyborg chef
No, I didn't. Though for Rifts, I did create a culinary school training program and specialized bionic conversion for Full-Conversion Cyborg Professional Chefs. Does that count as an 'Iron Chef'?

taalismn wrote:

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:[

Iron chef occ!!!! taal i want to see your rifts cyborg chef
No, I didn't. Though for Rifts, I did create a culinary school training program and specialized bionic conversion for Full-Conversion Cyborg Professional Chefs. Does that count as an 'Iron Chef'?

abe wrote:[seriously, how about a w.p scroll or w.p book even?

taalismn wrote:Technical/Scholarly:

*Printing/Bookbinding
This skill teaches the processes of manual and mechanical printing from simple woodblock impression boxes, to large commercial grade moveable-type presses, for the purposes of producing finished pamphlets, art prints, newspapers, and books. Skill training teaches formatting, inking, materials selection, the basics of engraving(with regards to printing plates), and bookbinding techniques. It does NOT cover the use of more modern word processing and ink/laser printer systems. Base Skill: 40%+5% per level of experience.

*Restoration
This skill teaches the restoration and repair of damaged/aged objects of artistic merit or value, with an eye towards refurbishing for archival preservation, display, or sale. Techniques of preservation, cleaning, color matching, veneering, patching, reinforcement and repair are taught, as well as proper storage of delicate items and sensitive materials.
Taking this skill TWICE signals a professional dedication to restoration work and adds a +10% to the skill. Specialization in a specific category of items may be taken, such as restoring painting, sculpture, frescoes, film, books, furniture, metalwork, military memorabilia, adding a further +5% to the skill. Having the Research or a relevant(to the period of the item) Lore: History or Art skill will add another +3% to the restoration attempts, especially with regards to the original processes and techniques used in creating the object.
Base Skill: 30%+5% per level of experience.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:[
These would make nice additions for the creation of a Scribe Skill Program.

abe wrote:comic book indentification
basically you can indentify comic book quality by sight
base chance 35 + 2% per level.

Panomas wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:I have an idea for a more advanced weightlifting skill but not sure if it makes sense. Let me know what you think.

Advanced Weight Lifting: This skill is for the Mr.Universe types and major bodybuilders. It focuses more on weightlifting for competition than health. The character can attempt to lift twice his normal lifting limit in pounds once per hour, with a 20% chance, plus 4% per level, of successfully lifting an object. Failure will mean he cannot lift it; critical failure will result in a torn muscle or tendon.
Prerequisite: Bodybuilding and Weight Lifting skill.
Bonuses and Penalties:
+2 PS per level
+2 PE per level
+2 PB for men, -2 PB for women
-2 PP
-2 Spd
+2 Pull Punch
+2 Roll With Impact
+1d4 SDC per level

Edit: Why is there an increase of PB for men and a decrease of PB for women?

This seems to be a very slippery slope indeed...

Mephisto wrote:

abe wrote:for rifts
pre-rifts technology indentification
this skill allows the user of it to indentify ancient technology at a glance & how to use/update it!
base chance 12+i.q. +3% per level.

Why are all of your skills so vague?

sexykitty wrote:Makeup Application
base % 30% +7% per level
+11% to disguise skill
+17% to seduction skill
+1d4 to physical beauty for 1d6 hours. using high quality makeup products increase duration by 50%-100% depending on cost.
This skill teaches the proper application of makeup.Many styles are covered and as a free skill Tweezing at skill percentage +10% is gained.

13eowulf wrote:

sexykitty wrote:Makeup Application
base % 30% +7% per level
+11% to disguise skill
+17% to seduction skill
+1d4 to physical beauty for 1d6 hours. using high quality makeup products increase duration by 50%-100% depending on cost.
This skill teaches the proper application of makeup.Many styles are covered and as a free skill Tweezing at skill percentage +10% is gained.

This would be covered under the grooming part of Wardrobe and Grooming

taalismn wrote:At a certain point, applying makeup is like oversalting/overpeppering food...it becomes obvious that you're trying to hide SOMETHING.

At which point it's not a successful Seduction roll, it's a Date Horror Factor.

taalismn wrote:At a certain point, applying makeup is like oversalting/overpeppering food...it becomes obvious that you're trying to hide SOMETHING.

At which point it's not a successful Seduction roll, it's a Date Horror Factor.

sexykitty wrote:A sarcasm the weapon of the weak. If you have ever met a real life model you would know that most of their beauty is in fact Makeup applied to the face and body as well as gratutios use of double sided tape.

sexykitty wrote:We must agree to disagree on this.

sexykitty wrote:If you have ever met a real life model you would know that most of their beauty is in fact Makeup applied to the face and body as well as gratutios use of double sided tape.

sexykitty wrote:but I imagine frostbite would make any warm body attractive.

sexykitty wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

13eowulf wrote:

sexykitty wrote:Makeup Application
base % 30% +7% per level
+11% to disguise skill
+17% to seduction skill
+1d4 to physical beauty for 1d6 hours. using high quality makeup products increase duration by 50%-100% depending on cost.
This skill teaches the proper application of makeup.Many styles are covered and as a free skill Tweezing at skill percentage +10% is gained.

This would be covered under the grooming part of Wardrobe and Grooming

That, and the bonus to the Seduction skill is way too high.

This is the specialized skill of applying makeup to yourself and others much like the nice women at Sephora(yup senseless plug). Also what would be a reasonable bonus to Seduction?

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:She is disagreeing with your disagreement that the majority of beauty is applied cosmetics and double sided tape. Or in simpler terms,
She said make up makes women pretty
You said Nuh uh women can be pretty without make up
She is now saying that you are wrong and rather than argue with you further on it she's going the whole agree to disagree route.


I think

taalismn wrote:You know, nowhere in the mainline Palladium books have I found a basic skill for Farming; apparently farmers aren’t interesting enough, or it’s not anticipated that PCs will be stuck in one place long enough to have to worry about hauling in a crop(though there IS an Undersea Farming skill). So, unless somebody corrects me otherwise, here’s a Farming skill:

Farming/Agriculture(Domestic/Technical)
This is the basic and labor-intensive skill of wresting a living from the soil and the things that grow in it. The particulars of planting, irrigating, fertilizing, weeding, crop maintenance, harvesting, and crop rotation are learned, as well as dealing with crises such as blights, pests, frosts, and bad weather.
However, as any farmer can tell you, even a successful skill roll can come to naught if the weather changes(drought, in particular) or malicious action(magic or otherwise) is taken against your crops.
Taking this skill as a Domestic skill means small garden-style subsistance plots(no more than a quarter-acre) while if taken as a Technical skill means larger-scale cultivation on larger tracts of land.
Base Skill: 35% + 5% per level of experience.+10% if Botany is also taken.
(Optional)
Agricultural Specializations---a Specialization in a specific type of crop can be taken, such as wheat, apples, soybeans, sugar cane, etc.. Taking a specialization means learning the specific concerns in raising these crops, pollinating/grafting, selecting optimal strains for growing, and their uses. If taken as a primary focus, the farmer gets a +10% to growing that particular crop, but is -5% to grow other crops. If another elective skill is taken to specialize in a particular crop, then the bonus is only +5%, but the basic Farming skill remains unchanged.
Bonus: +5% to Cooking with that particular foodstuff.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

taalismn wrote:You know, nowhere in the mainline Palladium books have I found a basic skill for Farming; apparently farmers aren’t interesting enough, or it’s not anticipated that PCs will be stuck in one place long enough to have to worry about hauling in a crop(though there IS an Undersea Farming skill). So, unless somebody corrects me otherwise, here’s a Farming skill:

Farming/Agriculture(Domestic/Technical)
This is the basic and labor-intensive skill of wresting a living from the soil and the things that grow in it. The particulars of planting, irrigating, fertilizing, weeding, crop maintenance, harvesting, and crop rotation are learned, as well as dealing with crises such as blights, pests, frosts, and bad weather.
However, as any farmer can tell you, even a successful skill roll can come to naught if the weather changes(drought, in particular) or malicious action(magic or otherwise) is taken against your crops.
Taking this skill as a Domestic skill means small garden-style subsistance plots(no more than a quarter-acre) while if taken as a Technical skill means larger-scale cultivation on larger tracts of land.
Base Skill: 35% + 5% per level of experience.+10% if Botany is also taken.
(Optional)
Agricultural Specializations---a Specialization in a specific type of crop can be taken, such as wheat, apples, soybeans, sugar cane, etc.. Taking a specialization means learning the specific concerns in raising these crops, pollinating/grafting, selecting optimal strains for growing, and their uses. If taken as a primary focus, the farmer gets a +10% to growing that particular crop, but is -5% to grow other crops. If another elective skill is taken to specialize in a particular crop, then the bonus is only +5%, but the basic Farming skill remains unchanged.
Bonus: +5% to Cooking with that particular foodstuff.

I think you may be right. The closest thing I can recall seeing is Gardening.

taalismn wrote:You know, nowhere in the mainline Palladium books have I found a basic skill for Farming; apparently farmers aren’t interesting enough, or it’s not anticipated that PCs will be stuck in one place long enough to have to worry about hauling in a crop(though there IS an Undersea Farming skill). So, unless somebody corrects me otherwise, here’s a Farming skill:

taalismn wrote:Well, here's another skill I don't see:

Bee-Keeping(Technical)

taalismn wrote:Since I seem to be on an agricultural bent here:

Oenology(Domestic/Technical)


Viticulture(Domestic/Technical)

slade the sniper wrote:[Dude, I just learned TWO new words... This is why I like these forums; interesting, polite and knowledgeable conversations. Hmm, a random though...I wonder if Palladium games attracts a different demographic than other brands/types of games?

-STS

interesting, polite and knowledgeable conversations?

Gentle, intellectual, scholarly types who, for fun, calculate the force needed to obliterate entire civilizations?

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:My apologies. It was one of those flashes of inspiration that pops in your head and if you don't let it out right away you'll lose it.

Taal. You're already preregistered as a contestant. It's not That disturbing.

SG. You can be on the Gm/judging panel if you don't want to compete.

I'll let this die here. This would be perfect for Little Snuzzles if he wanted to copy it and start a thread on it, I'm okay with that.

syntheticlife4m wrote:Here's Parkour/free-running in my game

Free Running/Parkour
- Sense of Balance (40% +5%)
- Parallel Bars & Rings (45% +3%)
- Backflip (50% +5%)
- Climbing at 30% (or +5% to Climbing)
- +2 Roll with Punch/Fall
- +2 P.P. and P.E.
- +1d4 to Speed
- +2d6 S.D.C.
- requires Athletics, Acrobatics, or Gymnastics