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Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:09 pm
by wonderdog
taalismn wrote:
wonderdog wrote:[sidenote edit: if you make repeated posts ina topic and person(s) make no apparent response to them even though they address specific statements in their own posts, is it safe to assume i am on that persons foe list and they do not see my posts?



Do not ascribe to malice what can be more easily attributed to laziness. :D



hahaha very well.

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:22 pm
by Killer Cyborg
wonderdog wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:And the term "maneater" is hardly without problems, since it would technically refer only to eating humans, specifically only to eating male humans.
Sure, common usage varied from that technical meaning over a long enough time that the new definition was recognized as valid... but if we're being technical, let's be technical.


so then lets be technical.
doesnt cannibal originate from the caribe tribe with heavy implication toward ritual and ceremony?
simply eating something for sustenance will never, ever be accurately described as cannibalism


Kind of.
The Carib practiced ceremonial cannibalism against enemies captured in warfare, but the term "cannibal" was coined in the context of the European assumption that it was a general practice.

also...
Ho·mo   /ˈhoʊmoʊ/ Show Spelled[hoh-moh]
noun
1. ( italics ) the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans and several extinct forms, distinguished by their large brains and a dependence upon tools. Compare archaic Homo.
from dictionary.com

so eating humans and our extinct ancestors would be homophagy, another word that i do not believe exists.


But would it also be cannibalism?

sidenote edit: if you make repeated posts ina topic and person(s) make no apparent response to them even though they address specific statements in their own posts, is it safe to assume i am on that persons foe list and they do not see my posts?


Depends on if you've done anything to tick them off, and how long and how blatant that kind of interaction is.

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:23 pm
by taalismn
wonderdog wrote:
taalismn wrote:
wonderdog wrote:[sidenote edit: if you make repeated posts ina topic and person(s) make no apparent response to them even though they address specific statements in their own posts, is it safe to assume i am on that persons foe list and they do not see my posts?



Do not ascribe to malice what can be more easily attributed to laziness. :D



hahaha very well.



Of course, the OTHER version of that is "Do not ascribe to malice what can be more easily attributed to stupidity", but that's not always wise to voice aloud. :thwak:

Then again, there's Ian Fleming's Doctor No: "Once is Incidence. Twice is Coincidence. Three times is Enemy Action."

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:24 pm
by Killer Cyborg
taalismn wrote:Then again, there's Ian Fleming's Doctor No: "Once is Incidence. Twice is Coincidence. Three times is Enemy Action."


Nice! :ok:

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:42 pm
by wonderdog
Killer Cyborg wrote:
also...
Ho·mo   /ˈhoʊmoʊ/ Show Spelled[hoh-moh]
noun
1. ( italics ) the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans and several extinct forms, distinguished by their large brains and a dependence upon tools. Compare archaic Homo.
from dictionary.com

so eating humans and our extinct ancestors would be homophagy, another word that i do not believe exists.


But would it also be cannibalism?


well if its a human eating another human then yes its cannibalism, for any other species of the megaverse its not, another term is needed. which was the contribution iv been trying to make with this topic. terms that can apply to whatever species dependant upon what they are eating. i.e. humans are cannibals only if theyre eating other humans, while any species of the megavers can be homophages if they are eating humans or our ancestors.

unless i missed a post and cannibalism is actually anything eating humans.

can·ni·bal   /ˈkænəbəl/ Show Spelled[kan-uh-buhl]
noun
1. a person who eats human flesh, especially for magical or religious purposes, as among certain tribal peoples.
2. any animal that eats its own kind.
again from dictionary.com

random flavor text:
"no no i dont eat humans. i use time ports cuz i prefer neanderthals. its a little gamier taste but ya get used to it"

edited to avoid impression im hijacking someones thread

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:51 pm
by Killer Cyborg
wonderdog wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
also...
Ho·mo   /ˈhoʊmoʊ/ Show Spelled[hoh-moh]
noun
1. ( italics ) the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans and several extinct forms, distinguished by their large brains and a dependence upon tools. Compare archaic Homo.
from dictionary.com

so eating humans and our extinct ancestors would be homophagy, another word that i do not believe exists.


But would it also be cannibalism?


well if its a human eating another human then yes its cannibalism, for any other species of the megaverse its not, another term is needed. which was the contribution iv been trying to make with this topic.


And while that IS useful, I think that it's also pretty clear what Palladium means when they use the terms "cannibal," and that the term is rather commonly used with the same meaning in certain contexts outside the mainstream, like fantasy/sci-fi settings.

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:54 pm
by wonderdog
Killer Cyborg wrote:
wonderdog wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:
also...
Ho·mo   /ˈhoʊmoʊ/ Show Spelled[hoh-moh]
noun
1. ( italics ) the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans and several extinct forms, distinguished by their large brains and a dependence upon tools. Compare archaic Homo.
from dictionary.com

so eating humans and our extinct ancestors would be homophagy, another word that i do not believe exists.


But would it also be cannibalism?


well if its a human eating another human then yes its cannibalism, for any other species of the megaverse its not, another term is needed. which was the contribution iv been trying to make with this topic.


And while that IS useful, I think that it's also pretty clear what Palladium means when they use the terms "cannibal," and that the term is rather commonly used with the same meaning in certain contexts outside the mainstream, like fantasy/sci-fi settings.


hey i thought we were geeking on technical here :P

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:14 pm
by Killer Cyborg
wonderdog wrote:hey i thought we were geeking on technical here :P


:ok:

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:25 am
by llywelyn
wonderdog wrote:MY POST CAME FIRST I DEMAND RECOGNITION!!!! j/k j/k
Except it didn't.

You gave the word for the action; I gave the word for the people carrying it out.

Killer Cyborg wrote:I disagree- "Cannibal" conveys the point they're trying to get across
Again, it doesn't.

In fact, it completely changes the meaning they're trying to get across.

And the term "maneater" is hardly without problems, since it would technically refer only to eating humans, specifically only to eating male humans.
And even you know that's not true. Not even in a technical sense. :D

Anthropophagy is also pretty good, depending on the Green connotations of "anthro," whether it related strictly to humans and/or strictly to males

Andro-, men only; gyno-, women only; paedo-, children only; anthropo-, anything resembling a human (particularly w/r/t intelligence, so not including chimps).

Re: "Cannibalism" in Rifts/Palladium

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:34 am
by llywelyn
wonderdog wrote:so eating humans and our extinct ancestors would be homophagy, another word that i do not believe exists.
As mentioned upthread, that's because you're doing it wrong.

Homophagy would be using the Greek prefix homo- and describe eating something resembling but not identical to yourself; homovore would be using that Latin root you looked up, but describe something that required eating specifically human flesh.

sidenote edit: if you make repeated posts ina topic and person(s) make no apparent response to them even though they address specific statements in their own posts, is it safe to assume i am on that persons foe list and they do not see my posts?
Of course, maybe I'm on yr foe list. :D