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Killer Cyborg wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Okay....maybe this one counts as an obscure piece of information:

In one of the Books, there is actually a picture of XY, the Great Old One.
(And as soon as I find out which Book it is, I'll let you know; I can't remember right now.)

The one with the binding made from human flesh.

Truckin' Turtles?

Faceless Dude wrote:

Killer Cyborg wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Okay....maybe this one counts as an obscure piece of information:

In one of the Books, there is actually a picture of XY, the Great Old One.
(And as soon as I find out which Book it is, I'll let you know; I can't remember right now.)

The one with the binding made from human flesh.

Truckin' Turtles?

Lol Ninjas in Leopard Fez!

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Faceless Dude wrote:

Killer Cyborg wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Okay....maybe this one counts as an obscure piece of information:

In one of the Books, there is actually a picture of XY, the Great Old One.
(And as soon as I find out which Book it is, I'll let you know; I can't remember right now.)

The one with the binding made from human flesh.

Truckin' Turtles?

Lol Ninjas in Leopard Fez!

And true bits of obscure knowledge from that?

The ninja master with the robot exoskeleton
Colonies of mutant pika
Random encounter tables for truck stops and roadside diners, long before Guy Fierei

Faceless Dude wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Faceless Dude wrote:

Killer Cyborg wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Okay....maybe this one counts as an obscure piece of information:

In one of the Books, there is actually a picture of XY, the Great Old One.
(And as soon as I find out which Book it is, I'll let you know; I can't remember right now.)

The one with the binding made from human flesh.

Truckin' Turtles?

Lol Ninjas in Leopard Fez!

And true bits of obscure knowledge from that?

The ninja master with the robot exoskeleton
Colonies of mutant pika
Random encounter tables for truck stops and roadside diners, long before Guy Fierei

Wasn't there a food monster in there too? Or am I misremembering? It's been like 20 years.

The Beast wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Dang it, I can't find the picture of Xy.

IIRC, it's in one of the Books, on one of the very first pages (as in, the List of Credits).

It's a small picture of a vaguely humanoid, multi-eyed and multi-tentacled......thing....and at the bottom of the small, rectangular picture, in even smaller print below it is the word "Xy."

Page 6, Old Ones.

shouldn't it be page 215, considering it's in the section actually talking about him and his lair?

Gamer wrote:

The Beast wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Dang it, I can't find the picture of Xy.

IIRC, it's in one of the Books, on one of the very first pages (as in, the List of Credits).

It's a small picture of a vaguely humanoid, multi-eyed and multi-tentacled......thing....and at the bottom of the small, rectangular picture, in even smaller print below it is the word "Xy."

Page 6, Old Ones.

shouldn't it be page 215, considering it's in the section actually talking about him and his lair?

Maybe that's why it's so obscure?

The Beast wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Dang it, I can't find the picture of Xy.

IIRC, it's in one of the Books, on one of the very first pages (as in, the List of Credits).

It's a small picture of a vaguely humanoid, multi-eyed and multi-tentacled......thing....and at the bottom of the small, rectangular picture, in even smaller print below it is the word "Xy."

Page 6, Old Ones.

Oh, I completely expect it to be there.

Only problem is, I'm not talking about that particular Book because I don't have it.

I'll find it again someday.

Braden Campbell wrote:RUE, page 13.

Some Coalition guys are talking to a bunch a locals about how twisted her world view is, and how they shouldn't trust her. They claim she's just some hick from back-water Missouri, whose family was killed when she was young, and who was raised by aliens.

Given the source, it could be nothing but lies... but it's all we have to go on.

I have to look it up, but I'm sure there was mention by Erin Tarn herself that she grew up on a farm near what was once Madison, Wisconsin.

Alistair Dunscon was a 4th level magic-user by age 12.

cornholioprime wrote:

The Beast wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Dang it, I can't find the picture of Xy.

IIRC, it's in one of the Books, on one of the very first pages (as in, the List of Credits).

It's a small picture of a vaguely humanoid, multi-eyed and multi-tentacled......thing....and at the bottom of the small, rectangular picture, in even smaller print below it is the word "Xy."

Page 6, Old Ones.

Oh, I completely expect it to be there.

Only problem is, I'm not talking about that particular Book because I don't have it.

I'll find it again someday.

Well if it's in two books, it shouldn't be considered obscure.

It didn't make it past the final edit, and as such, may not be entirely official, but all of the Mexican wolves on Rifts Earth are descended from a batch of clones designed to repopulate the species in the late 21 century (there are actually only 400 of these animals left presently).

Unfortunately, said clones have a racial memory of how mankind nearly wiped them out, and thus, hate humans today. That's why they are so willing to serve vampires and get into fights with farmers and such.

Joseph Prosek 1 had an affair with a mage. (WHAT?) Federation of Magic. Check this out. I kid you not.

When my players find out that this is true in my game, and they do suspect already, thanks to this incident.

Coalition Spy: "Hey, lady! You look like the Prosek family."

Marie (Dweomer Battle Magus): And you look like a bucket of !@#!!!!

Jenifer (Elf Mind Melter): Hey, you DO look like the Prosek family!

The L-20 is a little more power efficient than some other weapons. Dont tell anyone.

If you're talking about Efficient, that laser bow is AMAZINGLY Efficient... but you feel like a goober using it.

Pepsi Jedi wrote:If you're talking about Efficient, that laser bow is AMAZINGLY Efficient... but you feel like a goober using it.

Nah, just grow out your hair and dye it blonde, wear studded leather armor and call yourself "Ranger" You can then quest for your "Dungeon Master"

A portal in Cibola leads to the Invid Invasion saga of Robotech.

SAMASzero wrote:A portal in Cibola leads to the Invid Invasion saga of Robotech.

ok this .. is VERY worth finding out where this is at ?

Braden Campbell wrote:It didn't make it past the final edit, and as such, may not be entirely official, but all of the Mexican wolves on Rifts Earth are descended from a batch of clones designed to repopulate the species in the late 21 century (there are actually only 400 of these animals left presently).

Unfortunately, said clones have a racial memory of how mankind nearly wiped them out, and thus, hate humans today. That's why they are so willing to serve vampires and get into fights with farmers and such.

HOW DID THAT NOT MAKE IT IN!?!

The Galactus Kid wrote:

Braden Campbell wrote:It didn't make it past the final edit, and as such, may not be entirely official, but all of the Mexican wolves on Rifts Earth are descended from a batch of clones designed to repopulate the species in the late 21 century (there are actually only 400 of these animals left presently).

Unfortunately, said clones have a racial memory of how mankind nearly wiped them out, and thus, hate humans today. That's why they are so willing to serve vampires and get into fights with farmers and such.

HOW DID THAT NOT MAKE IT IN!?!

Probably the racial memory bit.

It'd put them as "Natural" Enemies of the dogboys, whom by their nature protect and love humanity.

As for why not included.. might be there has never been a documented attack of wolf on human in the lower 48, and only 3 attacks in alaska, two by pets. People are scared of wolves for 100% no reason what so ever. lol

Californian Indians in Spirits West are so good at mental accounting they get +10% on math skills.

Lenwen wrote:

SAMASzero wrote:A portal in Cibola leads to the Invid Invasion saga of Robotech.

ok this .. is VERY worth finding out where this is at ?

South America 1

Another one:

Spike Tail and Truk (From Skraypers) are currently operating on Rifts' Earth.

The Beast wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:

The Beast wrote:

cornholioprime wrote:Dang it, I can't find the picture of Xy.

IIRC, it's in one of the Books, on one of the very first pages (as in, the List of Credits).

It's a small picture of a vaguely humanoid, multi-eyed and multi-tentacled......thing....and at the bottom of the small, rectangular picture, in even smaller print below it is the word "Xy."

Page 6, Old Ones.

Oh, I completely expect it to be there.

Only problem is, I'm not talking about that particular Book because I don't have it.

I'll find it again someday.

Well if it's in two books, it shouldn't be considered obscure.

Sure it should.

This is a Rifts Thread, and AFAIK it only appears in exactly one place in this game, therefore it's obscure (to Rifts anyway; for all I know, in PFRPG there are probably whole pinup books filled cover-to-cover with "Maxim" -type cheesecake photos of the Old Ones.....in Speedos and Thong Bikinis).

Lictalon, the Elf Mage is probably alive and not well in Hades.

I forget who's discription it was, but in Pantheons of the Megaverse one of said pantheons minions was a 50' blue skinned alien and his mecha (likley a Zentreadi).

In Pantheons of the Megaverse, it states Apollo is the god of music and such and has tried all different kinds. Even trying Rap for a while, but couldn't get into it. Can you imagine the beatific blond haired Apollo with a hat on half crooked trying to rap??


Same book also had Hermes suddenly whipping out and shooting Ares in the face with a Rail gun once when Ares was picking on him.

The Ejector Seat Saving Throw would be my favorite piece of obscure info...

Obscure information, Page 41 Bionics sourcebook.

"Cyber-breasts" Which is a bit more than just a **** job. To quote

"These implants serve to keep the breasts firm with out the need of outside support. I.E. Bra, and can also increase and decrease the size of the breast by one cup size, can also 'Mold" the breast to FLATTEN to protect them from damage, or to better fit a particular style of dress or blouse. Extremely popular among women of all ages"

If that weren't enough it later stipulates in the price 'Life like prosthetic breasts with the same features are also available for more credits.

Now if you take a moment, you realize the first description is for like metallic shiny metal robo-boobs that can expand or 'flatten'. And you have to pay 2,000 to 10,000 more for life like 'adjustable' breasts.

Another bit of obscure information. Source Book One, Revised: Page 67.

I some how have managed to totally MISS that the CS has outlawed Wilks weapons. As in all of them. If you're caught with Wilks lasers or what ever, the CS will confiscate them, and at minimum fine you 1,000 to 10,000 credits, if they don't do worse.

While it's not the instant death sentence that Naruni weapons invoke, it's still pretty harsh.

Some how just missed that they out lawed the Wilks stuff.

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Another bit of obscure information. Source Book One, Revised: Page 67.

I some how have managed to totally MISS that the CS has outlawed Wilks weapons. As in all of them. If you're caught with Wilks lasers or what ever, the CS will confiscate them, and at minimum fine you 1,000 to 10,000 credits, if they don't do worse.

While it's not the instant death sentence that Naruni weapons invoke, it's still pretty harsh.

Some how just missed that they out lawed the Wilks stuff.

Yeah all MD weaponry is illegal in the CS unless you are in the military at which point you can walk around armed either in or out of uniform. I BELIEVE that's in R:SB1, rev. or CWC.

Yeah but because of politics some brands are outlawed even if the S.D. version.

Shorty Lickens wrote:Yeah but because of politics some brands are outlawed even if the S.D. version.

Just like in Nazi Germany.

Akashic Soldier wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Another bit of obscure information. Source Book One, Revised: Page 67.

I some how have managed to totally MISS that the CS has outlawed Wilks weapons. As in all of them. If you're caught with Wilks lasers or what ever, the CS will confiscate them, and at minimum fine you 1,000 to 10,000 credits, if they don't do worse.

While it's not the instant death sentence that Naruni weapons invoke, it's still pretty harsh.

Some how just missed that they out lawed the Wilks stuff.

Yeah all MD weaponry is illegal in the CS unless you are in the military at which point you can walk around armed either in or out of uniform. I BELIEVE that's in R:SB1, rev. or CWC.

No it's not. You can have Northern Gun stuff. It's not all MD weapons. the CS have just upped their trade with Northern Gun and NG Swung the deal with the CS.

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Akashic Soldier wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Another bit of obscure information. Source Book One, Revised: Page 67.

I some how have managed to totally MISS that the CS has outlawed Wilks weapons. As in all of them. If you're caught with Wilks lasers or what ever, the CS will confiscate them, and at minimum fine you 1,000 to 10,000 credits, if they don't do worse.

While it's not the instant death sentence that Naruni weapons invoke, it's still pretty harsh.

Some how just missed that they out lawed the Wilks stuff.

Yeah all MD weaponry is illegal in the CS unless you are in the military at which point you can walk around armed either in or out of uniform. I BELIEVE that's in R:SB1, rev. or CWC.

No it's not. You can have Northern Gun stuff. It's not all MD weapons. the CS have just upped their trade with Northern Gun and NG Swung the deal with the CS.

Then why do they confiscate them and fine you if you are "carrying a M.D. weapon" when you enter a C.S. city?

Akashic Soldier wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Akashic Soldier wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Another bit of obscure information. Source Book One, Revised: Page 67.

I some how have managed to totally MISS that the CS has outlawed Wilks weapons. As in all of them. If you're caught with Wilks lasers or what ever, the CS will confiscate them, and at minimum fine you 1,000 to 10,000 credits, if they don't do worse.

While it's not the instant death sentence that Naruni weapons invoke, it's still pretty harsh.

Some how just missed that they out lawed the Wilks stuff.

Yeah all MD weaponry is illegal in the CS unless you are in the military at which point you can walk around armed either in or out of uniform. I BELIEVE that's in R:SB1, rev. or CWC.

No it's not. You can have Northern Gun stuff. It's not all MD weapons. the CS have just upped their trade with Northern Gun and NG Swung the deal with the CS.

Then why do they confiscate them and fine you if you are "carrying a M.D. weapon" when you enter a C.S. city?

the same reason a person carrying a rocket propelled grenade launcher would tend to be picked up by the police today. it's a weapon capable of not only killing people, but blowing up vehicles and buildings as well.
not something you want circulating a community with mostly SDC squishies and where body armor is not considered fashionable daily wear.

Akashic Soldier wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Akashic Soldier wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Another bit of obscure information. Source Book One, Revised: Page 67.

I some how have managed to totally MISS that the CS has outlawed Wilks weapons. As in all of them. If you're caught with Wilks lasers or what ever, the CS will confiscate them, and at minimum fine you 1,000 to 10,000 credits, if they don't do worse.

While it's not the instant death sentence that Naruni weapons invoke, it's still pretty harsh.

Some how just missed that they out lawed the Wilks stuff.

Yeah all MD weaponry is illegal in the CS unless you are in the military at which point you can walk around armed either in or out of uniform. I BELIEVE that's in R:SB1, rev. or CWC.

No it's not. You can have Northern Gun stuff. It's not all MD weapons. the CS have just upped their trade with Northern Gun and NG Swung the deal with the CS.

Then why do they confiscate them and fine you if you are "carrying a M.D. weapon" when you enter a C.S. city?

Because "IN A CS CITY" is different than "IN THE COALITION STATES"

If I'm not mistaken there's even provision for checking your MD gear when you enter a CS city. I know there is for turning off MD bionic weapons and what not, but yes, there's a difference between 'Having an MD Plasma rifle in a CS city" and "Having a Plasma rifle out in the wilderness where a dragon might try and eat your face"

Pepsi Jedi wrote:Because "IN A CS CITY" is different than "IN THE COALITION STATES"

If I'm not mistaken there's even provision for checking your MD gear when you enter a CS city. I know there is for turning off MD bionic weapons and what not, but yes, there's a difference between 'Having an MD Plasma rifle in a CS city" and "Having a Plasma rifle out in the wilderness where a dragon might try and eat your face"

Gotchya! That makes perfect sense to me now. I'd just assumed that CS law only applied to whatever the CS was looking at... at that specific time and what happens in the wilds stays in the wilds.

Mictla had a sex change operation.

Gold is worth 1,000 credits an ounce. That could make a person with alot of gold VERY rich in Rifts!

keir451 wrote:Gold is worth 1,000 credits an ounce. That could make a person with alot of gold VERY rich in Rifts!

That's no different than today. Exept today gold is worth about $1600 an ounce (US dollors). http://goldprice.org/gold-price.html

The big difference is on Rifts Ersth it may be harder to find a buyer.

Hystrix wrote:

keir451 wrote:Gold is worth 1,000 credits an ounce. That could make a person with alot of gold VERY rich in Rifts!

That's no different than today. Exept today gold is worth about $1600 an ounce (US dollors). http://goldprice.org/gold-price.html

The big difference is on Rifts Ersth it may be harder to find a buyer.

This was in the back pages of the original Rifts RPG, near the section on Black Market items IIRC.

I would say that in the post apocalyptic world of Rifts all those freakin gold bars and diamonds previously held in storage are now free and roaming the country side.
Not nearly as rare as they previously were.

Shorty Lickens wrote:I would say that in the post apocalyptic world of Rifts all those freakin gold bars and diamonds previously held in storage are now free and roaming the country side.
Not nearly as rare as they previously were.

And after the first person hauls them off and hides them..... rare again.

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Shorty Lickens wrote:I would say that in the post apocalyptic world of Rifts all those freakin gold bars and diamonds previously held in storage are now free and roaming the country side.
Not nearly as rare as they previously were.

And after the first person hauls them off and hides them..... rare again.

Theres no global economy. Stockpiling rare items that have little practical value serves no purpose. It wouldnt provide anyone an advantage.

Shorty Lickens wrote:Theres no global economy. Stockpiling rare items that have little practical value serves no purpose. It wouldnt provide anyone an advantage.

Might be an idea to wait until Rifts: Black Market comes out before you start speaking with such certainty.

Shorty Lickens wrote:

Pepsi Jedi wrote:

Shorty Lickens wrote:I would say that in the post apocalyptic world of Rifts all those freakin gold bars and diamonds previously held in storage are now free and roaming the country side.
Not nearly as rare as they previously were.

And after the first person hauls them off and hides them..... rare again.

Theres no global economy. Stockpiling rare items that have little practical value serves no purpose. It wouldnt provide anyone an advantage.

There is an economy though, hence the universal Credit. Ask Traix selling guns in North America and the CS sending food to the NGR.

Rare items are still rare. If not even more so. The cities and what not were picked clean in the 200 years of darkness. Finding gold "Now a days" in 109 PA is just as hard if not harder than it is today IRL. 90% of the planet is wilderness. Very few gold mines active out there.

Finding gold is still going to be a rare thing, and rare things cost more.

My all time favorite is the Rouge Scholar.

Lots of skills Literate and can do nearly anything.

Grenades are cheaper and easier to get ahold of in Europe.

Found that last night while doing research for a manuscript.

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Grenades are cheaper and easier to get ahold of in Europe.

Found that last night while doing research for a manuscript.

~ Josh

Yeah you did.

Earth has had three epochs of magic. The current Rifts Earth is the third. (Rifts Africa)