crystaleye1950 wrote:Right so you are telling me that an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon Mega-Hero GOD
Now all of a sudden it's a Mega-Hero on top of everything else?
That's it, I'm out.
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crystaleye1950 wrote:Right so you are telling me that an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon Mega-Hero GOD
Nightmask wrote:
Of course it's not actually possible to have a million chi even for an Enlightened Immortal, maaaaaybe ten thousand at best. Also not a good idea burning out all your chi either, except of course your villain sue has infinite chi, PPE, and resources so there isn't anything about the character one could enjoy. It's the Boring Invincible Villain Trope taken to Beyond The Impossible levels.
Nightmask wrote:Yeah sorry but no, Reverse Chi has nothing to do with your personal chi. If you're infected with 50 negative chi and your normal positive chi is 20 and you Reverse Chi you now have 50 positive chi NOT 30 negative chi. You're also confused regarding how dangerous negative chi is and why it's supposed to be dangerous. They're supposed to be dangerous because they open you up to other problems like not being able to heal (and for most creatures since they don't have things like Healing Factor getting back to positive chi without outside help is almost impossible) or spells or chi mastery abilities that exploit that infection. Those that DO have the means though SHOULD be able to counter negative chi attacks because they aren't supposed to be unstoppable, incurable attacks.
Faceless Dude wrote:crystaleye1950 wrote:Right so you are telling me that an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon Mega-Hero GOD
Now all of a sudden it's a Mega-Hero on top of everything else?
That's it, I'm out.
Zamion138 wrote:this NPC "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " you have created is silly, why doesnt he just sit down and learn to make rune weapons and ultra high level circle magic , as circle magic "of legend" can make an old one into something else . Id buy that a rune platform designed with a circle magic spell on a leyline nexus in a magical ley line triangle like the bermuda triangle could make an AI into a mindslave/puppet/tool of your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God ".
But whats the point, the only thing thats beating an old one was just about all the gods , demons, devils, and "forces of light" (read that as no slave races of the old ones). joing togeather...and then not to destroy them but to put them to sleep. your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " is at that level of power and you may as well GM fiat anything you want him to do as it stands.
And for the record Splugorths are Immortal, all AI's and gods are. so they wouldnt be fooled into taking out their organs. being mortal doesnt mean something cant kill you it means you cant die from old age and illiness. it doesnt mean you cant die period. your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " might be reborn if killed and eventualy regain his full knowledge and power but at the same time the things that could knock him off and force a rebirth of him would just imprsion him/her/it in some pocket diminsion that is inescapable. And dont say your dragon has D-port cuase so do the old ones and nothing is or has ever been as powerfull as them except perhapes the Forge.
There for I rule that the Forge see's your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " as a threat and simply unmakes him from the time stream at the point he was created before he learned his Enlightened immortal ways.
Also it doesnt sound to Enlightened to do what you are making him do ie making slaves running crime groups and such. Why would something so powerfull give a crap about having slaves or servants and why wouldnt he use himself to be a postive force. Or heck asscened to the next level of being.
Wealth and power are pretty beneth something that has litterly lived 200 or 300k years.
its like saying I want to merge with an alien intelgence....Vald Tegor did it so there should be no reason my pc's cant do it. or odin lived throguh impaling himself on that tree....so thats how my cosmo knight, godling, juicer, rune smith, who has eaten ambrosa and is looked up by all the succubus and incubusses in the megaverse as the greatest lover of all time will learn spell magic.
to some one like a Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God something as trival as money or getting an honestly lesser form of AI to work for it should be kinda beneghth him. it moves and shakes in relms of being and understanding at would be so foriegn and diffrent that its kinda like asking a greater elemental to tell you what it thinks about a van gogh painting it doesnt understand what you mean it doesnt care anymore about world possessions infact thats the point of the Enlightened Immortal charecter.
crystaleye1950 wrote:Faceless Dude wrote:crystaleye1950 wrote:Right so you are telling me that an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon Mega-Hero GOD
Now all of a sudden it's a Mega-Hero on top of everything else?
That's it, I'm out.
Oh cmon Powers Unlimited 2 Immortal Godling? It is all there in the rules man!
crystaleye1950 wrote:Nightmask wrote:
Of course it's not actually possible to have a million chi even for an Enlightened Immortal, maaaaaybe ten thousand at best. Also not a good idea burning out all your chi either, except of course your villain sue has infinite chi, PPE, and resources so there isn't anything about the character one could enjoy. It's the Boring Invincible Villain Trope taken to Beyond The Impossible levels.
What's not to enjoy about being a super-powerful god? Better than being a weak victim anytime. And if you do things right, even a million chi is like a few pennies to an Enlightened Immortal Dragon God.
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crystaleye1950 wrote:Zamion138 wrote:this NPC "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " you have created is silly, why doesnt he just sit down and learn to make rune weapons and ultra high level circle magic , as circle magic "of legend" can make an old one into something else . Id buy that a rune platform designed with a circle magic spell on a leyline nexus in a magical ley line triangle like the bermuda triangle could make an AI into a mindslave/puppet/tool of your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God ".
But whats the point, the only thing thats beating an old one was just about all the gods , demons, devils, and "forces of light" (read that as no slave races of the old ones). joing togeather...and then not to destroy them but to put them to sleep. your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " is at that level of power and you may as well GM fiat anything you want him to do as it stands.
What makes you think my Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God doesn't create rune weapons and ultra high level circle magic? Alchemist is one of his first OCCs.And for the record Splugorths are Immortal, all AI's and gods are. so they wouldnt be fooled into taking out their organs. being mortal doesnt mean something cant kill you it means you cant die from old age and illiness. it doesnt mean you cant die period. your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " might be reborn if killed and eventualy regain his full knowledge and power but at the same time the things that could knock him off and force a rebirth of him would just imprsion him/her/it in some pocket diminsion that is inescapable. And dont say your dragon has D-port cuase so do the old ones and nothing is or has ever been as powerfull as them except perhapes the Forge.
What makes you think that my "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God" doesn't have invulnerability and mega-hero immortality super-powers?There for I rule that the Forge see's your "Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God " as a threat and simply unmakes him from the time stream at the point he was created before he learned his Enlightened immortal ways.
Also it doesnt sound to Enlightened to do what you are making him do ie making slaves running crime groups and such. Why would something so powerfull give a crap about having slaves or servants and why wouldnt he use himself to be a postive force. Or heck asscened to the next level of being.
Wealth and power are pretty beneth something that has litterly lived 200 or 300k years.
its like saying I want to merge with an alien intelgence....Vald Tegor did it so there should be no reason my pc's cant do it. or odin lived throguh impaling himself on that tree....so thats how my cosmo knight, godling, juicer, rune smith, who has eaten ambrosa and is looked up by all the succubus and incubusses in the megaverse as the greatest lover of all time will learn spell magic.
What makes you think that the Cosmic Forge doesn't have a hand in the creation of my Dragon God?
What makes you think that my Dragon God isn't using his Empire and Armies for a higher purpose? A much higher purpose than you can ever dream of?to some one like a Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God something as trival as money or getting an honestly lesser form of AI to work for it should be kinda beneghth him. it moves and shakes in relms of being and understanding at would be so foriegn and diffrent that its kinda like asking a greater elemental to tell you what it thinks about a van gogh painting it doesnt understand what you mean it doesnt care anymore about world possessions infact thats the point of the Enlightened Immortal charecter.
An Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God can create an extremely rich and powerful empire in the entire Megaverse without having the least concern whatsoever about worldly possessions.
What makes you so sure about the motivations of an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God?
How do you know what an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God is actually thinking about when he goes about solidifying his power and influence throughout the Megaverse?
Can you tell what a Promethean 2nd Stager thinks about on a daily basis?
crystaleye1950 wrote:Nightmask wrote:
Of course it's not actually possible to have a million chi even for an Enlightened Immortal, maaaaaybe ten thousand at best. Also not a good idea burning out all your chi either, except of course your villain sue has infinite chi, PPE, and resources so there isn't anything about the character one could enjoy. It's the Boring Invincible Villain Trope taken to Beyond The Impossible levels.
What's not to enjoy about being a super-powerful god? Better than being a weak victim anytime. And if you do things right, even a million chi is like a few pennies to an Enlightened Immortal Dragon God.
crystaleye1950 wrote:Nightmask wrote:Yeah sorry but no, Reverse Chi has nothing to do with your personal chi. If you're infected with 50 negative chi and your normal positive chi is 20 and you Reverse Chi you now have 50 positive chi NOT 30 negative chi. You're also confused regarding how dangerous negative chi is and why it's supposed to be dangerous. They're supposed to be dangerous because they open you up to other problems like not being able to heal (and for most creatures since they don't have things like Healing Factor getting back to positive chi without outside help is almost impossible) or spells or chi mastery abilities that exploit that infection. Those that DO have the means though SHOULD be able to counter negative chi attacks because they aren't supposed to be unstoppable, incurable attacks.
Right so if I hit a character with a million negative chi, he is suppose to have a mere 2 PPE Reverse Chi spell which can turn my million negative chi into one million positive chi? And you are talking to me about being a Invincible Villain Sue and All that? What a joke! You are even more of a munchkin than I am.
At least I build my character into a God using the rules most of the time but you are flat out breaking the rules.
crystaleye1950 wrote:Only those with chi mastery skills are supposed to be able to counter chi attacks. Also my negative chi attacks are not dangerous simply because they are negative chi. My negative chi attacks are dangerous because they consist of one million negative chi each!
It is the sheer overwhelming strength and power of my negative chi attacks which make it so dangerous to anyone. Not because it is a mere negative chi attacks.
If I throw a pencil at you, it is probably not gonna hurt. If I throw a skyscraper at you, you can be rest assured of being buried.
Zamion138 wrote:crystaleye1950 wrote:Faceless Dude wrote:crystaleye1950 wrote:Right so you are telling me that an Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon Mega-Hero GOD
Now all of a sudden it's a Mega-Hero on top of everything else?
That's it, I'm out.
Oh cmon Powers Unlimited 2 Immortal Godling? It is all there in the rules man!
So how is your doctorial thesus on being a troll going anyhow? are you planing on teaching a course in high class/end trolling and how to make nerds the glove over cringe?
besides that you can make a char any way you want but if you sat down at the table with me id just constently kill your char off with a rune dagger with soul eating abilitys....by the way with out your soul you cant be reborn into the Enlightened Immortal Dimensional Elder Dragon God you just got eaten by a dagger. 20 ratlings with dream scape skills and converted weapons they are allowed to take with them into the stream as well as astraly just have to stab you. no matter how high your save you roll a 1 your toast.crystaleye1950 wrote:Nightmask wrote:
Of course it's not actually possible to have a million chi even for an Enlightened Immortal, maaaaaybe ten thousand at best. Also not a good idea burning out all your chi either, except of course your villain sue has infinite chi, PPE, and resources so there isn't anything about the character one could enjoy. It's the Boring Invincible Villain Trope taken to Beyond The Impossible levels.
What's not to enjoy about being a super-powerful god? Better than being a weak victim anytime. And if you do things right, even a million chi is like a few pennies to an Enlightened Immortal Dragon God.
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I think a better question is what is there to enjoy?
what are you roleplaying?
what is mentaly or physicly challenging to you?
what is the risk to your pc ?
can you even come up with a motive for that char to not just ascend or care what is happening to mortals?
Id reather play a vagabond with a limp and be lv 1 than your char any night of the week.
Nightmask wrote:crystaleye1950 wrote:Nightmask wrote:
Of course it's not actually possible to have a million chi even for an Enlightened Immortal, maaaaaybe ten thousand at best. Also not a good idea burning out all your chi either, except of course your villain sue has infinite chi, PPE, and resources so there isn't anything about the character one could enjoy. It's the Boring Invincible Villain Trope taken to Beyond The Impossible levels.
What's not to enjoy about being a super-powerful god? Better than being a weak victim anytime. And if you do things right, even a million chi is like a few pennies to an Enlightened Immortal Dragon God.
Correction, not a super-powerful god, but an unbeatable, unchallengeable, and totally uninteresting invincible villain sue.crystaleye1950 wrote:Nightmask wrote:Yeah sorry but no, Reverse Chi has nothing to do with your personal chi. If you're infected with 50 negative chi and your normal positive chi is 20 and you Reverse Chi you now have 50 positive chi NOT 30 negative chi. You're also confused regarding how dangerous negative chi is and why it's supposed to be dangerous. They're supposed to be dangerous because they open you up to other problems like not being able to heal (and for most creatures since they don't have things like Healing Factor getting back to positive chi without outside help is almost impossible) or spells or chi mastery abilities that exploit that infection. Those that DO have the means though SHOULD be able to counter negative chi attacks because they aren't supposed to be unstoppable, incurable attacks.
Right so if I hit a character with a million negative chi, he is suppose to have a mere 2 PPE Reverse Chi spell which can turn my million negative chi into one million positive chi? And you are talking to me about being a Invincible Villain Sue and All that? What a joke! You are even more of a munchkin than I am.
At least I build my character into a God using the rules most of the time but you are flat out breaking the rules.
So you dare to call ME a munchkin for pointing out that a canon spell that has no listed cap can totally undo your totally rules-breaking character that you brag about how munchkin it is and admit you follow no rules at all regarding it?crystaleye1950 wrote:Only those with chi mastery skills are supposed to be able to counter chi attacks. Also my negative chi attacks are not dangerous simply because they are negative chi. My negative chi attacks are dangerous because they consist of one million negative chi each!
It is the sheer overwhelming strength and power of my negative chi attacks which make it so dangerous to anyone. Not because it is a mere negative chi attacks.
If I throw a pencil at you, it is probably not gonna hurt. If I throw a skyscraper at you, you can be rest assured of being buried.
No, there is nothing that says only chi mastery skills can counter chi attacks, in fact the book says the opposite and points to things that do indeed counter them while not being chi mastery skills.
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Mech-Viper Prime wrote:I rank this thread up there with the 10th legion
Hystrix wrote:Mech-Viper Prime wrote:I rank this thread up there with the 10th legion
Agreed. I'm waiting for the Enlightened Dragon God Juicer Crazy Mega Hero Munchie Smurf. I guess we're pretty much there.
Ravenwing wrote:"Killing Dbee's isn't murder, they aren't human, it's pest control!"
Zardoz wrote:You have been raised up from Brutality, to kill the Brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your God gave you the gift of the Gun. The Gun is good!
Mech-Viper Prime wrote:Hystrix wrote:Mech-Viper Prime wrote:I rank this thread up there with the 10th legion
Agreed. I'm waiting for the Enlightened Dragon God Juicer Crazy Mega Hero Munchie Smurf. I guess we're pretty much there.
its moments like this i'm glad, i have have rifts manhunter
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Johnathan wrote:Mech-Viper Prime wrote:Hystrix wrote:Mech-Viper Prime wrote:I rank this thread up there with the 10th legion
Agreed. I'm waiting for the Enlightened Dragon God Juicer Crazy Mega Hero Munchie Smurf. I guess we're pretty much there.
its moments like this i'm glad, i have have rifts manhunter
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