Rifts Movie Talk

Capt. Meschievitz · Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:29 am

I think you cannot really have a Rifts movie without Juicers, as Juicers are an important part of the world.

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:31 am

Stevil wrote:If it is Disney I know the juicier (drug user) will not be seen but maybe a crazy for comic relief. Maybe show both sides of the Shifters: the evil summoner and the superior protector. I think maybe the best way to show the coalition and the other monsters would be from the view point of a Cyber Knight. A great hero to side with and a cool costume isn't that what all action movies are about besides cussing and one liners. That is just a few ramblings from a fan.

Hmm what about showing the Dark side of being a juicer, you know have one that's burnign out and getting the last call? that might let it come in even for Disney.

The 2 shifter could work if you had good chemistry...

and the Cyberknight might seem to much like a Star Wars rip off by people who aren't fans of rifts...
I mean we know it's not but will most people watching it?
just some thoughts on your thoughts...

chaserone · Unread post by **chaserone** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:22 am

How long has the movie been a twinkle in Bruckheimer's and KS's eyes? I'm thinking since at least 2000. Considering that I know that there was an individual emailing several online GMs on thier views of the setting and plot of rifts. I was even emailed. I deleted the email after answering it. Im thinking that maybe I should have kept that email. ;-)

cornholioprime · Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:11 pm

Warpig wrote:All I got to say is that if the movie is at least better than than D&D then it deserves a series of sequals...everyone wants to see so much, there's really no way they can capture all of the crazy and awesome stuff on Rifts Earth in only one movie!

...and Disney better get out of the way when the Blood Buckets are flying, this ain't gonna be no squishy kids movie...although children could be in it...they could be...eaten by monsters in it....

That's EXACTLY the problem, War...the Studios are NOT going to allow Realism (such as it is in an imaginary alternate Universe)...they will go for the cold, hard cash. I expect a Love Story to be woven in somehow, and Typical Hollywood Villains that are one-dimensional stereotypes (mark my words...virtually EVERYONE in the Coalition States will be protrayed as insensitve bigots...and the Emperor and his son will simply be protrayed as insane. Not calculating, not complex...insane). Oh yeah, also look for action figures for the Comic Relief character, and Rifts Corn Cereal, with little Marshmallow Coalition Skulls................

Unread post by **AlexM** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:19 pm

That's a relief.

Alex Marciniszyn

Just kidding.

Dr. Doom III · Unread post by **Dr. Doom III** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:15 pm

ironleader wrote:All this talk and still nothing new?

Is there nothing new about cast and crew, or even a schedule?

Speculation is getting is fills the pages around here but there are no answers, to the same old questions.

The movie industry moves slowly.

Entiago · Unread post by **Entiago** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:22 am

Blah, blah, blah

I just hope for extra goodies that Sandy Collora is picked up to help work on the film, check out his cool stuff at www.collorastudios.com
his stuff is phenominal

Lagos · Unread post by **Lagos** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:37 pm

So true....sad but true.

Dave the dragon · Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:46 pm

So I take it there hasnt been any new info scince may?

Jorrigun · Unread post by **Jorrigun** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:31 am

The RIFTS movie is a project I'd probably donate an organ to create concepts for.

dragon_blaze_99 · Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:07 am

I would like to the movie fallow the Sonic boom novels it has almost everything everyone has asked for.. :-D

Skull One · Unread post by **Skull One** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:48 pm

AvP took so long because sigorney weaver, who actually owns a great deal of the aliens franchise, held it up. for years she would not consider it=, then when she did she wanted a other aliens movie to come out, then she wanted more conrol, and so on and so forth.

then they had a script, it was terrible (hard to be worse then the moive!) so they had to start over, then the first director was released, had to find another.

so AvP had many porblems from the get go, which is most likely why in my view, the movie SUCKED!

SaltySqueegee · Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:59 pm

Updates on the progress of this project???

Trent Ventis · Unread post by **Trent Ventis** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:10 pm

I hope Im in the movie :-p

Sea-Titan / Mind-melter from Psiscape specializing in Psi-sword(double damage). Mwahaha
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Rifts movie... sounds like it could be a fun ride. It's one of those things that could suck huge or be amazing. It's a very fragile thing and I hope it goes the way of amazing like it should be.

GO KEVIN!!! WOOT

Vinny · Unread post by **Vinny** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:56 pm

Chewbacca wrote:Disney better have Juicers Rifts aint Rifts without Juicers.

Disney and drugs. What a great match!!!

Sometimes I need to take drugs to sit through a Disney movie.

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:45 pm

K20A2_S wrote:
Matt_Cauthon1 wrote:Any New information out there? Can't find any thing new about it.
Look at the thread I just made.

Linky!

YubaRaider · Unread post by **YubaRaider** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:59 pm

Last I heard... It wasn't sounding too good. The way I hear it.. they haven't even started on writing anything. Does anyone have any news about this movie? And where in the process it is? Anything?

jesse04 · Unread post by **jesse04** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:20 am

NO entries on IMDB.com

:oops:

Maryann · Unread post by **Maryann** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:57 am

YubaRaider wrote:Last I heard... It wasn't sounding too good. The way I hear it.. they haven't even started on writing anything. Does anyone have any news about this movie? And where in the process it is? Anything?

Actually your slightly behind. Kevin has met with the wriiter, David Franzoni, and work has started, here on the boards, we just haven't been told how far along things are.

punisher1 · Unread post by **punisher1** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:54 pm

Oooh Story Boards? It's a start! Hey do they ever sell those? If so I'd buy one or Two LOL

Vinny · Unread post by **Vinny** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:03 pm

Maryann wrote:
Actually your slightly behind. Kevin has met with the wriiter, David Franzoni, and work has started, here on the boards, we just haven't been told how far along things are.

What would we do without you? :-D

punisher1 · Unread post by **punisher1** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:28 pm

Ya thanks for the update Maryann! You rock!

Well I hope the greedy mouse doesn't sit on the Idea for to long. Somehow things can drag out for ever. Generally battle over profit from the movies which brings up the point of Stan Lee fighting to get his lowly 10% from the Spiderman movies that came out. Somebody posted about Kevin arguing about T-shirt sales LOL.

Problem with brining Comics and Roll playing to movie life. Technology is now at the point where they can make those fantasies seem real hence all the Marvel movies. Rifts has it's own issues with that. It's such a fantastic world with so many things that can't be easily done without massive CGI and all kinds of movie sets, costumes and what not. So the production is not exatcly "cheap" So I'm sure theres all kinds of concerns about the investment and the return.

Since the D&D movie flopped I'm sure comparisons have been made. Not that D&D is not great it's just that the movie was bad no fault of the guys at D&D I'm sure they would have told a better story.

So hopefully we will all jump for joy when the annoucement comes out when the movie will be produced. Then cross our fingers hoping that the movie will be well done and gain popularity.

Warwolf · Unread post by **Warwolf** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:19 pm

C.R.A.F.T. wrote:Just think, the longer the RIFTS movie takes to make, better technology will come about, and the better the special effects will be!

Yeah, but at the rate special effects (read: computers) are evolving these days; no matter how good it looks when it comes out, it will probably look cheesy in ten years or less when compared to the new movies. Case in point: Who thought Independence Day had awesome special effects when it first came out? But they don't look quite as awesome when compared to movies like Constantine or I Robot, do they?

Syndicate · Unread post by **Syndicate** » Sat May 14, 2005 7:17 am

I can only add that I am very enthusiastic about the movie, and will continue to support any efforts to produce one. If for some reason this movie is unable to be produced, I will personnel take-up the mantle of responsiblity and ensure that one IS eventually made.

...So help me God...

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:38 am

K20A2_S wrote:
Sir_Spirit wrote:
K20A2_S wrote:
Matt_Cauthon1 wrote:Any New information out there? Can't find any thing new about it.
Look at the thread I just made.

Linky!
http://forums.palladium-megaverse.com/viewtopic.php?t=35542

Was the thread deleted? :-?

(the link isn't active/working.....)

wraith415 · Unread post by **wraith415** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:40 am

if Kevin wants to write how about a TV series? with no Trek to watch (Except reruns) I think it would do well. On the other hand a Phase World series could potentially do even better....

Doormatjones · Sat May 28, 2005 10:33 pm

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/comingsoon/r/rifts.htm

This site seems to have the most info I've seen up to date... most of it is already discussed here... but it does make a nice reference, plus they seem interested.

Toc Rat · Unread post by **Toc Rat** » Mon May 30, 2005 2:32 am

Went to that site, nothing new there. a lot of blanks to be filled in...sigh...

Is it too much to ask for a release date?

Capt. Meschievitz · Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:12 am

well only ten pages, slowly building...

Gallahan · Unread post by **Gallahan** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:08 am

I don't think there will be a RIFTS movie. Many times, Hollywood buys rights and the movie never gets made, or is made 20 years later. Just like the HYPE about the latest Indiana Jones movie. I don't think that will get made either.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to be negative, but when you involve great ideas with showBUSINESS... great ideas and concepts fall through the cracks.

I just don't think the movie is on track. I think that it's just a bunch of hype and in the end... there will only be the roleplaying game. No movie. Can someone *in the know* give us fans some hope?

Warwolf · Unread post by **Warwolf** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:37 pm

Just Googled Franzoni and found out the following:

David Franzoni’s Milestones
1986 First produced screenplay, "Jumpin' Jack Flash"; credited as David H Franzoni; provided the story and was one of four credited writers on the script.
1992 Breakthrough script, the teleplay for the HBO biopic "Citizen Cohn"; earned a 1993 Emmy nomination.
1996 Signed a first look deal with DreamWorks SKG to write, produce and direct features.
1997 Served as screenwriter for Steven Spielberg's "Amistad"; reportedly Steve Zallian rewrote his script, but Franzoni ended up with sole screen credit.
1997 Named (along with Spielberg and others) in a plagiarism suit brought by author Barbara Chase-Riboud who claimed "Amistad" was based on her novel "Echo of Lions"; suit settled out of court.
2000 Co-wrote script for "Gladiator"; also served as one of the film's producers; film received 12 Oscar nominations including Best Picture and Best Screenplay.

Let's just hope that he can do sci-fi/fantasy as well as historical action/drama, and that he truly can do good, original work (even if it is based on established material). Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I know I had heard about the plans to do the AvP and Ghost Rider movies years before they were finalized.

Wōdwulf Seaxaning · Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:20 pm

I'd like to see Vin Diesal as star of the movie.Let's get him back to his action & Sci-Fi roots.Add the fact he is gamer might appeal to him.L8r
Sgt Leo MacKenzie CSA Commando

The Galactus Kid · Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:24 pm

How do you know Vin Diesel is a gamer?

Wōdwulf Seaxaning · Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:35 pm

Because he has mentioned it in a few interviews.L8r
Sgt Leo MacKenzie CSA Commando

The Galactus Kid · Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:39 pm

any links to these interviews?

Warwolf · Unread post by **Warwolf** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:19 pm

thud wrote:Freddy Prinze Jr and Matthew Lillard are also big-time gamers, as are Jack Black and Seth Green.

That would make for one interesting adventuring group... Someone should attempt to get a few of them together for a celebrity gaming event! Maybe Origins or GenCon next year? I could at least see Black and Green getting in on it if they could fit it into the schedule.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Toby McGuire (sp?) was a closet gamer. I know he's a big Star Wars fan and often (i.e. not always) the two coincide. He just seems to fit the psych profile of a typical gamer of that age.

Lamont · Unread post by **Lamont** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:29 pm

Vin Diesel wrote the foreword for Thirty Years of Adventure : A Celebration of Dungeons & Dragons.

The Ruiner · Unread post by **The Ruiner** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:18 am

Vin was also on Conan Obrian talking about the forward he wrote and his favorite D&D character

Swift-13 · Unread post by **Swift-13** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:05 am

Heck, the character's name was a tattoo on his chest in the movie XXX, I think. I know it was in one of his movies...

Esckey · Unread post by **Esckey** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:33 pm

Freddy Prinze Jr and Matthew Lillard are also big-time gamers

Kay I don't really care for Freddy, too prissy, but is Matthew Lillard the guy that played Shaggy in the movies? Cause if so, he's one of my all time favriote low key actors

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:58 pm

thud wrote:What's going on with the movie is probably the same thing that was going on last week, and the week before that, and the week before that...
Siembieda and Co. are locked down under anti-trust contracts that could choke a Fury Beetle.
THere's no telling how long the whole affair may take, but to quote Kevin S. from a conversation I had with him at GenCon last year, regarding Franzoni's script:
Me: "So someone is actually writing a script?"
Kevin S. "THey paid him $4 million dollars to write it; he better be working on it..."

We can only wait and hope. Perhaps GenCon '05 will reveal more...

This is realtively consistent with the conversation I had with KS at GenCon this Thursday (there are some differences, but they're not pertinent to the fact of the movie being in production). He and I talked about the movie and it's still being worked on, Bruckheimer is still excited about this, and everything is moving forward. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to talk about what he said or not, and I don't want to cause snags or get things in trouble, but the movie is moving forward and Franzoni's still on it.

Hopefully there'll either be someone that can tell the whole story of what I know. There's a tiny update that I have, but beyond that, everything is as it was before.

/Sub

Vinny · Unread post by **Vinny** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:11 am

Subjugator wrote:
thud wrote:What's going on with the movie is probably the same thing that was going on last week, and the week before that, and the week before that...
Siembieda and Co. are locked down under anti-trust contracts that could choke a Fury Beetle.
THere's no telling how long the whole affair may take, but to quote Kevin S. from a conversation I had with him at GenCon last year, regarding Franzoni's script:
Me: "So someone is actually writing a script?"
Kevin S. "THey paid him $4 million dollars to write it; he better be working on it..."

We can only wait and hope. Perhaps GenCon '05 will reveal more...

This is realtively consistent with the conversation I had with KS at GenCon this Thursday (there are some differences, but they're not pertinent to the fact of the movie being in production). He and I talked about the movie and it's still being worked on, Bruckheimer is still excited about this, and everything is moving forward. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to talk about what he said or not, and I don't want to cause snags or get things in trouble, but the movie is moving forward and Franzoni's still on it.

Hopefully there'll either be someone that can tell the whole story of what I know. There's a tiny update that I have, but beyond that, everything is as it was before.

/Sub

I would think that anything that Kevin said, he was allowed to say.

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:07 pm

WorldofRifts wrote:
Subjugator wrote:This is realtively consistent with the conversation I had with KS at GenCon this Thursday (there are some differences, but they're not pertinent to the fact of the movie being in production). He and I talked about the movie and it's still being worked on, Bruckheimer is still excited about this, and everything is moving forward. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to talk about what he said or not, and I don't want to cause snags or get things in trouble, but the movie is moving forward and Franzoni's still on it.

Hopefully there'll either be someone that can tell the whole story of what I know. There's a tiny update that I have, but beyond that, everything is as it was before.

/Sub

I would think that anything that Kevin said, he was allowed to say.

Well, per this last week, Franzoni's getting 1.5 mil to write the script and he's doing either a second one or a rewrite right now. What that tells me is that Bruckheimer is interested in this enough to pay serious cash for the movie and that he's willing to wait for it to be done well.

I started reading up on Bruckheimer - that dude is a freaking powerhouse.

Bartleby

Vinny · Unread post by **Vinny** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:46 pm

I wonder how much free stuff the writer got from Palladium

MethosDarkblade · Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:04 pm

I think one of every Rifts book would not cost them too much. Just for the price of research.

grandmaster z0b · Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:57 am

DZestmen wrote:Ridley Scott is my favorite director and think that he would do a great job, but everyone has their bad days.

I don't think Ridley Scott was very happy with the script to Gladiator which Franzoni wrote. There were very many rewrites and it wasn't long enough from what I've heard.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:47 pm

Any news on how far along the script is?

AlanStormCrew · Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:45 pm

really? :)

Aelius · Unread post by **Aelius** » Sun May 07, 2006 4:29 am

I can tell you right now it has squat to do with visuals. A perfect example is King Arthur. One of Jerry's recent big movies.

They croped or cut so much from the theatrical release that it was almost like watching a new movie when watching the director's cut that had all the blood and guts included in it.

It's an example of what happens when you have a poor script and often poor visuals and you try to make it up with blood and guts.

Compare that to Gladiator which had a lot less blood then King Arthur but the visuals and story made up for it ten fold.

So just because you don't have a ton of guts hanging out of a person after they were struck by 200 flechette rounds from a Glitter Boy it doesn't mean it's suddenly a hit film. The reverse is also true.

You have to find a common ground for people to take in the sights and sounds as well as easily make sense of the conversations going on. A perfect example of where this was pulled off well was Aliens.

To live up to our dreams Jerry will have to release a movie on par with Aliens. I simply don't see that happening with the current brand of directors that tend to direct these so called blockbusters. When then happily flop. Now you take someone like Joss Whedon who masterfully directed Serenity with some of the most eye poping, yet strikingly simple, visuals (remember the end of the film when it's raining and the camera is very close several objects and you see the water droplets forming on them and it's suddenly moving and the camera follows it and then pans out into a wide shot? That's so simple yet I can name only two directors that matched that and that's James Cameron and Steven Spielberg).

zerombr · Unread post by **zerombr** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:08 pm

I'm going to give you the real suggestion, the real winning idea for a Rifts movie, I swear this'll be done just perfect, you know it has to....Just get Genny Tartokovsky (sp?) from the Star Wars Clone Wars animated to do it, ohh dude now THAT is awesome!

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