Robotech® New Generation™ Sourcebook

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:01 pm

MikeM wrote:
Colonel Wolfe wrote:
ZINO wrote:Palladium Books® Weekly Update – Sept. 15, 2011
By Kevin SiembiedaUPDATE: Robotech® New Generation Sourcebook. My editing and writing for Robotech® New Generation™ is done. Wayne is doing his edit of the final quarter of the book. The rest has been submitted to Harmony Gold for review and approval. I have assigned some of the artwork and will be assigning more. I love this book and hope final approval from Harmony Gold is quick and easy. An October release is looking solid.
[translator] Look for it Jan or Fed 2012[/translator]
UPDATE: Robotech® Genesis Pits Sourcebook. I’m really shooting for a December, 2011 release with the Genesis Pits sourcebook. Irvin has been working on it for a while now and it is coming along nicely.[/i]
[translator] Look for it june of july 2012[/translator]
UPDATE: Robotech® Marines Sourcebook. I want to see this book out early in 2012.
[translator] Look for it Jan or Fed 2013[/translator]

and not a mention of the Spaceships book....

LOL. So true. I still think it will be December before we see New Generation and summer before we see any other Robotech book.

PALLADIUM IS SO SLOW OLD AGE WILL KILL THEM BEFORE A BOOK COME OUT IT JUST A JOKE PEOPLE :lol:

!!!! THERE NO WAY THEY WILL PULL IT OFF MAYBE TWO BOOKS AT BEST
AND IF THEY DO WELL THAT IS A ONCE IN A BLUE MOON IMHO
my hat and hope are with you palladium books !!!!!!!!!!!! make me be wrong !!!!!

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:09 pm

GIMME MY SPACESHIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:14 pm

Are ther any New Special aptiture?

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:30 pm

dont know?!?!?!?!?!

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:50 am

wow 7112 view Wow
just imagine one relpy from would be nice !!!

rtsurfer · Unread post by **rtsurfer** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:20 pm

http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php ... er-22-2011

UPDATE: Robotech® New Generation™ Sourcebook is in final production. I assigned the artwork last weekend and sent the rest of the text in for Harmony Gold’s final approval. Apollo Okamura has finished the cover and it too has been submitted for approval. Apollo is also illustrating the characters from the television series. Allen and Brian Manning are busy illustrating the mecha, vehicles and other parts of the book. Pending approval from Harmony Gold, this book is on track for an October release.

UPDATE: Robotech® Genesis Pits™ Sourcebook. I think we have an excellent shot at seeing this book released in December, 2011. Irvin has been working on it for a while now and it is coming along nicely. Apollo doesn’t have time to do the cover for this one, so I’m thinking about which artist I should approach to do it.

Robotech® Sale
- Three books including RPG for $24.93

Get the manga-sized Robotech® Shadow Chronicles RPG and the two current sourcebooks, Robotech®: Macross Saga and Robotech®: The Masters™ Saga at wholesale prices. ALL three books are the manga (digest) size and format, making them small and easy to carry anywhere. Fun to read, even more fun to play. A Mega-Damage setting compatible with Rifts®. Everything you need to start your own Robotech® campaign except dice and players.

Tiree · Unread post by **Tiree** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:23 pm

Robotech® Sale
- Three books including RPG for $24.93

Get the manga-sized Robotech® Shadow Chronicles RPG and the two current sourcebooks, Robotech®: Macross Saga and Robotech®: The Masters™ Saga at wholesale prices. ALL three books are the manga (digest) size and format, making them small and easy to carry anywhere. Fun to read, even more fun to play. A Mega-Damage setting compatible with Rifts®. Everything you need to start your own Robotech® campaign except dice and players.

That's actually a fairly good deal. When you think about it that two books is around $32

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:09 pm

Tiree wrote:
Robotech® Sale
- Three books including RPG for $24.93

Get the manga-sized Robotech® Shadow Chronicles RPG and the two current sourcebooks, Robotech®: Macross Saga and Robotech®: The Masters™ Saga at wholesale prices. ALL three books are the manga (digest) size and format, making them small and easy to carry anywhere. Fun to read, even more fun to play. A Mega-Damage setting compatible with Rifts®. Everything you need to start your own Robotech® campaign except dice and players.

That's actually a fairly good deal. When you think about it that two books is around $32

indeed

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:12 pm

Gryphon wrote:So they mentioned that they were going to reprint the earlier books in full size format, right?

yes

Is this softcover like the older books, or hardcover like the deluxe shadow chronicles, and if its softcover, while the new TSC be the original of the deluxe version?

I hope they just move the Deluxe version over to a perfect bound volume.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:23 pm

Gryphon wrote:So they mentioned that they were going to reprint the earlier books in full size format, right?

Is this softcover like the older books, or hardcover like the deluxe shadow chronicles, and if its softcover, while the new TSC be the original of the deluxe version?

Right now I'd spring for hardcovers...I just HATE the look and feel of dog-eared soft covers and that laminate-peeling problem they never seem to have figured out how to prevent.

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:29 pm

I suspect full-size perfect bound - once they run out of the mangas.

So as I've always said, if you want the full, buy the manga :-)

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:36 pm

Jefffar wrote:So as I've always said, if you want the full, buy the manga

But before Kevin announced the full-sized book, this would have given the impression the Manga Sized was actually wanted by fans, even when polling data said otherwise.
but now, I want them to sell out the stupid manga sized books asap.

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:09 am

KS says !!!!
A half dozen new books are closer to release
I am thrilled to report that new books are coming together and nearing completion.

UPDATE: Robotech® New Generation™ Sourcebook is in final production. I assigned the artwork last weekend and sent the rest of the text in for Harmony Gold’s final approval. Apollo Okamura has finished the cover and it too has been submitted for approval. Apollo is also illustrating the characters from the television series. Allen and Brian Manning are busy illustrating the mecha, vehicles and other parts of the book. Pending approval from Harmony Gold, this book is on track for an October release.

UPDATE: Robotech® Genesis Pits™ Sourcebook. I think we have an excellent shot at seeing this book released in December, 2011. Irvin has been working on it for a while now and it is coming along nicely. Apollo doesn’t have time to do the cover for this one, so I’m thinking about which artist I should approach to do it

well what you think

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:58 am

Jefffar wrote:I suspect full-size perfect bound - once they run out of the mangas.

So as I've always said, if you want the full, buy the manga

Yeah, thats pretty stupid IMHO. (not your statement, but Palladium's stance on the subject). Those who want the Zentraedi sized books have already bought the manga sized because they had no choice. Those who didnt like manga in the first place never bought the books in the first place. Now we have to pay Palladium to correct *their* business mistake before they give us what we really want. Fail.

At least PB has listened to the fans and are *going* to give us what we want, but first we have to buy books we already own to get Zentraedi sized? that sucks.

PB should just fill X-mas grab bags with the manga sized to get rid of the stockpile and start production on Zentraedi sized for regular sales immediately. That's what I would do.

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:00 am

ZINO wrote:
KS says !!!!
A half dozen new books are closer to release
I am thrilled to report that new books are coming together and nearing completion.

UPDATE: Robotech® New Generation™ Sourcebook is in final production. I assigned the artwork last weekend and sent the rest of the text in for Harmony Gold’s final approval. Apollo Okamura has finished the cover and it too has been submitted for approval. Apollo is also illustrating the characters from the television series. Allen and Brian Manning are busy illustrating the mecha, vehicles and other parts of the book. Pending approval from Harmony Gold, this book is on track for an October release.

UPDATE: Robotech® Genesis Pits™ Sourcebook. I think we have an excellent shot at seeing this book released in December, 2011. Irvin has been working on it for a while now and it is coming along nicely. Apollo doesn’t have time to do the cover for this one, so I’m thinking about which artist I should approach to do it

well what you think

I dont get excited till the books are released. Of course I will buy them when they are.

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:13 pm

ANYONE HEARD ANY THING ???:(

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:42 pm

All I can say is, we finnally have light at the end of the tunnel.

dataweaver · Unread post by **dataweaver** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:11 am

Beware the oncoming train.

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:58 am

dataweaver wrote:Beware the oncoming train.

Arnie100 · Unread post by **Arnie100** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:06 pm

Alpha 11 wrote:All I can say is, we finnally have light at the end of the tunnel.

This is Palladium, remember?

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:32 am

Arnie100 wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:All I can say is, we finally have light at the end of the tunnel.

This is Palladium, remember?

hey she right still in one hand have light at the end of the tunnel but in the other hand be ready to dodge !!!!

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:58 am

UPDATE:

Robotech® New Generation™ Sourcebook. The text and the initial batches of artwork are in Harmony Gold’s hands. Art should be finished next week. It will see release in October.

NEW! Robotech® New Generation™ Sourcebook
– Ships October, 2011

The battle for the liberation of Earth starts here. For the first time in its history, the Earth has been invaded and occupied by alien invaders – the Invid. The Invid think they have won, but Freedom Fighters, UEEF soldiers and other heroes continue to fight. This is the first sourcebook to combine ALL generations of Robotech® into one epic setting.

A setting in which Battloids, Veritechs, power armor and technology from all eras of Robotech come together.
Kit-bashed mecha and rules for jury-rigging and combining parts from different generations of Robotech® mecha.
O.C.C.s include the Freedom Fighter, Patcher, Urchin, Pathfinder and Invid Protoculture Experiments; seven in all.
The resistance and how it operates in the New Generation setting. look forward to see this
New weapons, vehicles and mecha. YEAH
Guidelines for survival and rules for exposure.
Stats for notable New Generation characters such as CorgYEAH , Sera, Lunk, Annie, Rook and others.
World overview and adventure ideas galore.YEAH
Written by Irvin Jackson. Additional text by Kevin Siembieda.
Cover by Apollo Okamura.
A standard 8½ x 11 inch sourcebook.
96 pages – $16.95 retail – Cat. No. 554

. October 2011 release.

2012 Releases in the Pipeline

UPDATE: Robotech®: Genesis Pits™ is in the process of being written by Irvin Jackson. It should see release in December or January (we’re shooting for December
I DON'T THINK SO WAT TO POSITIVE SORRY

Two more Robotech® books to follow.

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:43 am

Palladium really needs to take some time management courses.

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:04 pm

Kagashi wrote:Palladium really needs to take some time management courses.

indeed

dataweaver · Unread post by **dataweaver** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:09 pm

But where would they find the time? :-?

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:26 pm

dataweaver wrote:But where would they find the time?

magic maybe??? :lol:

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:26 am

dataweaver wrote:But where would they find the time?

allow for some others to do some of the final editing. If not for Rifts some of the other source material.

I will order another set of books just to help speed along the process of getting my full size books. However i have to agree with Kagashi, feels wrong to have to order a set of books i do not want for the ones i do. I would gladly order the deluxe book.

Arnie100 · Unread post by **Arnie100** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:56 am

I'm just waiting for the official release date! Then I'll order. And do some back-flips, screaming "FINALLY! After all these years of waiting, it's actually going to be released!!" I don't wanna jinx myself, do I?

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:49 am

Arnie100 wrote:I'm just waiting for the official release date! Then I'll order. And do some back-flips, screaming "FINALLY! After all these years of waiting, it's actually going to be released!!" I don't wanna jinx myself, do I?

you might want to add a couple of months to that.

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:58 pm

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/21188.html

heres the Cover... man... its very uninspiring.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:11 pm

Colonel Wolfe wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/21188.html

heres the Cover... man... its very uninspiring.

No less inspiring than the other three covers were....

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:15 pm

jaymz wrote:
Colonel Wolfe wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/21188.html

heres the Cover... man... its very uninspiring.

No less inspiring than the other three covers were....

yeah, that's not saying much...of the 4, this one is the worst... if its the final one, since Harmony Gold is the one releasing it...

SailorCallie · Unread post by **SailorCallie** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:31 pm

Colonel Wolfe wrote:http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/21188.html

heres the Cover... man... its very uninspiring.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:43 pm

It's a change from the 'Charlies Angel's' look we got if you put the first 3 books together.

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:08 pm

Jefffar wrote:It's a change from the 'Charlies Angel's' look we got if you put the first 3 books together.

Yeah i think this one has more to it than just "look at me I am awesome"

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:28 pm

Jefffar wrote:It's a change from the 'Charlies Angel's' look we got if you put the first 3 books together.

yeah, this one screams, Let me hid like a cowering child afraid of the boogy man.... The Beta on the Cover would have been better, say standing on a scouts head, or Corgs dead body.

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:30 pm

The Link confirms the Stupid Franken-mecha are in the book... "awesome".... its funny how 4 years ago Gideon and CO. told us that since something wasn't shown EXPLICITLY in the show, it wouldn't be in the RPG... and now we get Franken-Mecha... once again HG shows its (in)consistency...

jaymz · Unread post by **jaymz** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:09 pm

Colonel Wolfe wrote:
Jefffar wrote:It's a change from the 'Charlies Angel's' look we got if you put the first 3 books together.
yeah, this one screams, Let me hid like a cowering child afraid of the boogy man.... The Beta on the Cover would have been better, say standing on a scouts head, or Corgs dead body.

funny how most of the time they in fact hid from Invid unless force to fight so it seems to me to fit the show pretty good.

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:17 pm

One man's hiding in fear is another man's waiting in ambush.

Colonel Wolfe · Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:58 pm

Jefffar wrote:One man's hiding in fear is another man's waiting in ambush.

being its a Shock trooper, I can buy the ambush...

Colonel Wolfe · Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:21 am

Gryphon wrote: Those don't get any real screen time until much later on in the series.

I know, Scott crashed his Alpha in Episode 61, and gets a replacement in 63... Much much later...

ESalter · Unread post by **ESalter** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:04 pm

Jefffar wrote:It's a change from the 'Charlies Angel's' look we got if you put the first 3 books together.

It seems pretty similar to me.

Jefffar wrote:One man's hiding in fear is another man's waiting in ambush.

Of course, since the Invid can detect reflex energy, it isn't much of an ambush.

Gryphon wrote:The biggest issue here is that the Cyclone is facing the wrong way....

What do you mean?

Gryphon wrote:Honestly, this is the best of the lot, though not by much.

I like it a lot; very suspenseful. But the way he's holding the rifle annoys me.

Gryphon wrote:It this Apollo again?

Yes.

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:33 pm

ESalter wrote:
Gryphon wrote:The biggest issue here is that the Cyclone is facing the wrong way....

What do you mean?

I think he means the torso is 180 degrees off. For a real ambush, he should be facing the opponent. It looks to me more like the cyclone pilot realized he was about to cross paths with the Invid in an chance encounter and is taking the opportunity to better his situation rather than a planned ambush from either party.

ESalter wrote:
Gryphon wrote:Honestly, this is the best of the lot, though not by much.

I like it a lot; very suspenseful. But the way he's holding the rifle annoys me.

Me too. If it is indeed an ambush, the rifle would be pointing at the opponent, not the ground. At the very least...at the ready. You would think an REF trained soldier would know that. Then again...he could be a freedom fighter who happened upon a cyclone suit and has no such training.

But the artist wouldnt have a very good picture if we were looking at the back of a cyclone which isnt very exciting. Two tires on an engine block. Wow.

ZINO · Unread post by **ZINO** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:59 am

WOW NICE IT COMING OUT NOW YEAH!!!!!

http://www.icv2.com/images/21188RobotechNGSB-xlg.jpg
(YEAH )

'Robotech New Generation Sourcebook'
Palladium Books will release the oft-delayed Robotech New Generation Sourcebook this fall. The 8-1/2” x 11” volume (not manga-sized, as previously announced) will be 96(NOT ENOUGH !!! ) pages and retail for $16.95. The new sourcebook will include a setting in which all generations of Robotech, including Battloids (YEAH ), Veritechs (YEAH ), power armor (YEAH ) and technology(YEAH ), come together(YEAH ). It will also provide for jury-rigging and combining parts from mecha of different Robotech eras(YEAH ) .
Robotech New Generation Sourcebook is written by Irvin Jackson with additoianl text by Kevin Siembieda. The cover is by Apollo Okamura.

ESalter · Unread post by **ESalter** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:13 pm

Kagashi wrote:
ESalter wrote:But the way he's holding the rifle annoys me.

Me too. If it is indeed an ambush, the rifle would be pointing at the opponent, not the ground. At the very least...at the ready. You would think an REF trained soldier would know that. Then again...he could be a freedom fighter who happened upon a cyclone suit and has no such training.

I was more worried about the gun's weight; it's very heavy, supposedly.

Gryphon wrote:That's more or less what I meant. If he was doing it "right", we would be seeing the back of his head mainly, and part of a rifle, not very sexy that. This version is technically wrong for an ambush, or really any kind of engagement save for a full fledged withdrawal, but it gives us more detail on the Cyclone, and we still get a perspectivized view of a menacing Invid Shocky, so its all good.

Oh; I thought you were writing about the "Charlie's Angels" thing.

Like I said, I assumed he was hiding. Or at least hadn't decided what to do.

Colonel Wolfe · Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:48 pm

96 pages would be over 200 in Manga size... hence why the Manga size was a rio-off to begin with, made you think you were getting alot of info for a good price.

Tiree · Unread post by **Tiree** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:43 pm

Either way it's too little information in a RT book. One of the reasons I've wanted a combined compilation book.

Colonel Wolfe · Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:30 am

Tiree wrote:Either way it's too little information in a RT book. One of the reasons I've wanted a combined compilation book.

IDK, the old RPg was THIN.
Sentinels was only 159 pages, and it had pages of deckplans.
book 1 was 112
book 2 was 48
Book 3 was only 48 pages. with an asking price of 8 bucks in 1989. (15.91 in today's dollar with inflation.)
They re-printed a Full-skill list in each generation book, which was tons of reprinted filler-pages to up the page count.

Kagashi · Unread post by **Kagashi** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:48 am

Yeah, the 200 page manga sized books were about on par with the 90 page zentraedi sized books in terms of amount of material. The only difference was, you had one mecha spanning six pages instead of 2 plus a pic causing unnecessary flipping to read said source material. That and you cant put the book down to record said material on the computer which uses two hands to type without some creative ways to keep the book open. The old books stay open just fine. Same material...more functionality. And if you really want portability, get a PDF for your Kindle or Nook like normal people who understand technology. Or use a backpack like the millions of students do every day. Having a manga sized book stuffed in your jeans back pocket on the bus is just...weird looking.

A Rifts size book would have covered all three previous re-imagined Robotech books and Palladium wouldnt have made three times the sales. And now they get to pull a George Lucas and reissue them in a new format (which is what I wanted to begin with, so in this case, unlike a few rocks in front of R2D2, I will buy the zentredi sized books). Although I love the idea of a single compilation book, Palladium is making all sorts of money off of Robotech.

Tiree · Unread post by **Tiree** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:07 pm

Kagashi wrote:Yeah, the 200 page manga sized books were about on par with the 90 page zentraedi sized books in terms of amount of material. The only difference was, you had one mecha spanning six pages instead of 2 plus a pic causing unnecessary flipping to read said source material. That and you cant put the book down to record said material on the computer which uses two hands to type without some creative ways to keep the book open. The old books stay open just fine. Same material...more functionality. And if you really want portability, get a PDF for your Kindle or Nook like normal people who understand technology. Or use a backpack like the millions of students do every day. Having a manga sized book stuffed in your jeans back pocket on the bus is just...weird looking.

A Rifts size book would have covered all three previous re-imagined Robotech books and Palladium wouldnt have made three times the sales. And now they get to pull a George Lucas and reissue them in a new format (which is what I wanted to begin with, so in this case, unlike a few rocks in front of R2D2, I will buy the zentredi sized books). Although I love the idea of a single compilation book, Palladium is making all sorts of money off of Robotech.

Kagashi - I think we agree and disagree.
You are right, having a Manga sized book stuffed in your back pocket or in a jacket is odd. But it is better than having a full sized book for reading consumption on said public transit or in an office environment.

But I definitely agree with you on a PDF Format, but sadly - Palladium does not want it. They are dragging their feet, fighting tooth and nail to just get out of print titles in PDF. And from everything I have heard, they are crappy scans and not even bookmarked well.

So jump forward to Manga and Computers. I don't know about you, I have a problem with the old books opening up to certain pages unless I break the spine. So if you are willing to break the spine, do it with your Manga - Done! If not, your still going to get creative - Done!

Having the same mecha span 3 pages, you got me. But it really doesn't matter much. Most of the problem with the Manga Edition falls under layout and editing. Not the material itself. And trust me when I say - there is plenty of material that can be covered to make that 96 pages to 150 something. Again, this falls under layout, editing, and probably HG.