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abe wrote:from a tmnt book (I forget witch) surfing
you know the sport of riding a big wave with a little board
base chance of success 35+5%
not sure if it's practicle but it's a hawaian sport that in ancient time only royalty was allowed to do.
what do you think?

Stone Gargoyle wrote:Hmmm, am I actually going to be able to put Pilot: Drones in the Black Vault without having to take it back out later? Hopefully this one is unique enough that it isn't a repeat of something already in the books.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:Pilot: Drones would obviously also be listed as a Pilot Advanced skill, since most who learn it will be military. That is how I categorized it in the vault though it is not specifically listed as such.

taalismn wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:Pilot: Drones would obviously also be listed as a Pilot Advanced skill, since most who learn it will be military. That is how I categorized it in the vault though it is not specifically listed as such.

Not necessarily military...Consider Jason Jr. and the exploration of the Titanic by drone.
And increasingly, there's worry about civilian drones in the hands of paparazzi and peeping toms violating peoples' personal airspace.

taalismn wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:Hmmm, am I actually going to be able to put Pilot: Drones in the Black Vault without having to take it back out later? Hopefully this one is unique enough that it isn't a repeat of something already in the books.

The only existing examples I've been able to find are from Rifts: NMI spotted the Naruni Combat Pot and there's the VRRDs, but no general skill(that I'm aware of) for the potentially HUGE number of types of possible remote operated systems.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:[ It seemed there for a couple days you had the misfortune of creating stuff that was already in the books.

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:Thanks SG. I must have skipped over the skill %'s

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

abe wrote:

13eowulf wrote:

abe wrote:for necromancers: pilot bones
like pilot drones but you ride in flying convanses made of actural bones!
base 35+3 % per level +15% for necromancers of course.
what do you think?

Flying undead beasts fall under Horsemanship: Exotic

I figured that, but I was trying to be funny.

Wasting board space is not funny. I have yet to see you actually write a viable skill that stands up on its own.

taalismn wrote:W.P. Duct Tape
Skill in using rolls of duct tape(as well as fly strips and similar sticky ribbons) as entangling and thrown weapons. The roll can be handheld like a garrote, yoyo-thrown as a lasso, or thrown as a roll-projectile. Some advanced practitioners have even been known to be able to loop unreeling rolls around stanchion points to create quick trip-traps. A master of duct tape can wrap-bind a prisioner or tape-gag a target within seconds.
NO damage if used as an entangling weapon, 1 point damage if used as a thrown weapon (though the roll must weigh 1 lb. or more, and MD attacks are only possible with MD-grade duct tape and a throwing strength of Extraordinary or Supernatural). +1 to strike at levels 1, 4, 8, and 12, +1 to entangle at levels 2, 4, 6, 8, and 12. One time bonus of +1 to entangle if using double-sided tape. The danger is, on a failed roll of 1(1-2 if using double-sided tape), the practitioner gets THEMSELVES entangled in their own sticky tape.

abe wrote:Not sure if this has already been done, vodun lore
this is the study of the religion of voodoo
base skill- 35+5 % per level

abe wrote:Not sure if this has already been done, vodun lore
this is the study of the religion of voodoo
base skill- 35+5 % per level

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:

abe wrote:Not sure if this has already been done, vodun lore
this is the study of the religion of voodoo
base skill- 35+5 % per level

This. This is all I have to say.
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The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:
This. This is all I have to say.
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taalismn wrote:

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:
This. This is all I have to say.
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DoesHead-Banging count as a subset specialization of FacePalming?
And by what margin of percentile points does a FacePalm fumble incur actual point damage(accidentally hook-shot yourself in the face or somehow get your knee involved in the operation, with possible resulting concussion)?

13eowulf wrote:I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

13eowulf wrote:[

I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

taalismn wrote:

13eowulf wrote:[

I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

Good call!

W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

13eowulf wrote:

taalismn wrote:

13eowulf wrote:[

I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

Good call!

W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

I think that perhaps there should be a mesmerizing effect that creates a penalty for an attacker, or perhaps a penalty to perception to onlookers trying to see something other than the hooper

taalismn wrote:

13eowulf wrote:

taalismn wrote:

13eowulf wrote:[

I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

Good call!

W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

I think that perhaps there should be a mesmerizing effect that creates a penalty for an attacker, or perhaps a penalty to perception to onlookers trying to see something other than the hooper

Only if the hooper has a good PB or is wearing a bikini(or both).

13eowulf wrote:

taalismn wrote:

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:
This. This is all I have to say.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=107188&p=2756570#p2754696

DoesHead-Banging count as a subset specialization of FacePalming?
And by what margin of percentile points does a FacePalm fumble incur actual point damage(accidentally hook-shot yourself in the face or somehow get your knee involved in the operation, with possible resulting concussion)?

I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

taalismn wrote:W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

taalismn wrote:W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

13eowulf wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

taalismn wrote:W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

The world hula-hoop record is over 100 at a time, I can see +1 per level easy.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

13eowulf wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

taalismn wrote:W.P. Hula-Hoops---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously.

Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

just a fyi... The gennins(sp?) record is 132 set in 2009.
A Chinese gymnast kept 208 in motion for 3 revolutions in 2011 (iirc).

The world hula-hoop record is over 100 at a time, I can see +1 per level easy.

Fair enough.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:[]Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

taalismn wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:[]Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

Singular it is indeed.

As for multiple hoops? Yah, as pointed out, some people can get a LOT of hoops going simultaneously. But I'd say Paired Weapons only applies if you're twirling hoops around more than one part of the body simultaneously, like torso/arm, arm/arm, or leg/arm, etc.

Also added tentative rules for 'hula-hoop mesmerization' to OP.

Stone Gargoyle wrote:

taalismn wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:[]Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

Singular it is indeed.

As for multiple hoops? Yah, as pointed out, some people can get a LOT of hoops going simultaneously. But I'd say Paired Weapons only applies if you're twirling hoops around more than one part of the body simultaneously, like torso/arm, arm/arm, or leg/arm, etc.

Also added tentative rules for 'hula-hoop mesmerization' to OP.

Okay. Ultimately by being critical of it, I made more work for myself as I posted it over to the vault once already and re-posted it and deleted the version under the plural name once you edited it.

taalismn wrote:

13eowulf wrote:[

I think Headbanging would fall under the dance skill.....

Good call!

W.P. Hula-Hoop---The art of using a hula-hoop as a close-in melee weapon, using one’s own body(especially waist and torso) contortions to toss the hoop as a striking weapon. A standard plastic hula-hoop does 1 point of damage, though specially-made razor-edged hoops can do 1d4-1d6 damage. The hoop can also be used to parry punches and kicks, and, with a toss of the upper body, thrown as a projectile(Effective range of 50 ft) to strike or entangle. This W.P. is also one of the few that gives a bonus to physical attributes with practice: +1 to P.P.. +1 to strike and parry as a body weapon at levels 1, 3, 6, 9, and 12, +1 to strike and entangle as a thrown weapon at levels 2, 5, 8, 11, and 15. Can combat-twirl 1 hula-hoop per level of experience simultaneously. The hula-hooper can also mesmerize or disconcert opponents with their contortions versus the actual path of their weapon; opponents must save under their M.E, or be are -1 to dodge at levels 6 and 12 of the 'hooper's level of experience.

taalismn wrote:

Stone Gargoyle wrote:[]Would this not simply be W.P. Hula Hoop? After all, W.P. Knife is still a single noun even though those using a knife might be capable of wielding more than one. Would not using more than one hula hoop at a time require extra skill anyways, similar to a paired weapons skill? Also, this implies you would be able to use 15 hula hoops simultaneously at level 15, which I think would be a bit much. I could see maybe adding another hula hoop at every third level, for a total of five at most.

Singular it is indeed.

As for multiple hoops? Yah, as pointed out, some people can get a LOT of hoops going simultaneously. But I'd say Paired Weapons only applies if you're twirling hoops around more than one part of the body simultaneously, like torso/arm, arm/arm, or leg/arm, etc.

abe wrote:bot sure if this has been done before, but for splicers how about biotic lore which is the skill of knowing about biotics
base is 34 +5%?
tell if this has been done before & if not how to make this skill fit splicers better.

abe wrote:how about this as trivia: biotics instead, just a thought anyway.

NMI wrote:Actually,I can kind of see a "Lore: Biotics" skill for the Splicers setting.
With all the various Houses in Splicers, some will have their own specific Biotic forms/styles. Yes, this could be covered by "Intelligence" or even a "Lore: Houses" skill, but not everyone is an Intelligence person.

NMI wrote:Actually,I can kind of see a "Lore: Biotics" skill for the Splicers setting.
With all the various Houses in Splicers, some will have their own specific Biotic forms/styles. Yes, this could be covered by "Intelligence" or even a "Lore: Houses" skill, but not everyone is an Intelligence person.

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:Sweet Landscaping skill Taal. Is it to much to suggest Language: Spanish be mentioned somewhere in the write up? I don't want to break any forum rules, but sometimes the things in my head just have to come out.

abe wrote:

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:Sweet Landscaping skill Taal. Is it to much to suggest Language: Spanish be mentioned somewhere in the write up? I don't want to break any forum rules, but sometimes the things in my head just have to come out.

on a show I saw on cartoon network they had a Mexican/american landscape artist, so would the Mexican language work for this skill as well?

abe wrote:A specialization of cooking could be ancient with a base skill of 12+2% per level
what do you think?