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gaby wrote:What do you think are the top ten Body Armors and why you think they are the best?

Sir Arkady wrote:Most of those are power armors, Lenwen, not body armors.

Wyrmbear wrote: They're all Power Armor, Sir Arkady. I think Lenwen just misread the post.

rat_bastard wrote:10: Naruni Ceramalyte Nightsuit - Large prowl bonus
9: Austrialia Special forces body armor - High MDC
8: T-10 Tirax standard Body armor - Standard Multi optics, Great MDC, good mobility for heavy armor
7: Japan Special Forces Exoskeleton - good MDC+ stat bonuses
6: Special Forces CA-7 Heavy Dead By Armor - lots of good integral features
5: Triax Exoskeleton - Everything that makes the Triax armor good plus stat bonuses
4: China Geofront Exoskeleton - Better than Triax
3: Naruni Modular Body Armor - Lots of options, has the potential to be truely great.
2: CS-6EX Heavy Dead boy armor - lots of MDC, robotic strength.
1: Naruni Super Soldier Heavy Battle Armor - Better than the Dead boy armor.

gaby wrote:What do you think are the top ten Body Armors and why you think they are the best?

Lenwen wrote:

gaby wrote:What do you think are the top ten Body Armors and why you think they are the best?

Ok I answered wrongly once so let me ask you if this is strickly a "Human" type of Armor ? Or anything goes type of Body armor ?

So long as its just body armor ?

Ninjabunny wrote:

Ninjabunny wrote:10: Naruni Ceramalyte Nightsuit - Large prowl bonus
9: Austrialia Special forces body armor - High MDC
8: T-10 Tirax standard Body armor - Standard Multi optics, Great MDC, good mobility for heavy armor
7: Japan Special Forces Exoskeleton - good MDC+ stat bonuses
6: Special Forces CA-7 Heavy Dead By Armor - lots of good integral features
5: Triax Exoskeleton - Everything that makes the Triax armor good plus stat bonuses
4: China Geofront Exoskeleton - Better than Triax
3: Naruni Modular Body Armor - Lots of options, has the potential to be truely great.
2: CS-6EX Heavy Dead boy armor - lots of MDC, robotic strength.
1: Naruni Super Soldier Heavy Battle Armor - Better than the Dead boy armor.

See I added something so the list is now all mine

jhwrench wrote:Hecate's armor and the lesser ones her minions make can make anyone a minor god.

Young Freud wrote:Can we have top ten most popular body armors instead? I want to know what the average person (who can afford MDC protection) is going to wear.

What I can think of for that is:
CA-1 Dead Boy Armor
NG Maverick
Huntsman
Juicer Assassin Plate

Killer Cyborg wrote:Rune Bikini Armor.

Sir Arkady wrote:In the game I played in the Gladius user hooked up to one of the backpack batteries for extended use. I mentioned the Gladius because it not only has almost as much MDC as a suit of power armor, but it also adds an attack per melee like one as well.

If I ever play one of the rare non-psionic Cyber-Knights I might take this suit. I'll just hook up a charging cable (and a quick-disconnect) to the power-plant of my robot horse.

Killer Cyborg wrote:Rune Bikini Armor.

Sir Arkady wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:Hate to break it to you but in the but the Gladius sits on the Power Armor side of the Power Armor/Exoskeleton line, Its a vehicle, not a suit.

I thought from the write-up the Gladius blurred the line between the two. I also don't remember seing any special skills needed to be able to pilot one of them, so I figured it would have been closer to body armor than power armor. (I personally draw the line between the two by the prescence of a needed skill, and especially something like a chart of bonuses from having power-armor combat elite in the suit.)

Sir Arkady wrote:I can see your point.

My group runs it as a top of the line body armor, but that is based on the detail of it not needing any special skill to use it (which where the GM's I play with draw the line).

rat_bastard wrote:

Sir Arkady wrote:I can see your point.

My group runs it as a top of the line body armor, but that is based on the detail of it not needing any special skill to use it (which where the GM's I play with draw the line).

That works, my group runs with a heavily modified Knock off as their primary power armor.

airdale91 wrote:

Killer Cyborg wrote:Rune Bikini Armor.

I gotta ask, what kind of MDC are we talking about with what different styles????

Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:

Sir Arkady wrote:I can see your point.

My group runs it as a top of the line body armor, but that is based on the detail of it not needing any special skill to use it (which where the GM's I play with draw the line).

That works, my group runs with a heavily modified Knock off as their primary power armor.

Modified how?

Rogue_Scientist wrote:Yeah, I know. And should be available in MercTown, too. Although probably at a mark up.

Lobo wrote:LOL have to be German to start with Triax gear? That's weird, it sounds like your GM believes that Triax is exclusive to the area of Germany because they can't get their stuff over to NA very easily. However Triax has lots of dealers in North America and with their super-sonic ultra high altitude transports they are able to ship their wares here relatively easily. In fact Triax gear was one of the first selections available to NA players in early Rifts game. I would guess with the CS crack down on Naruni, that Triax gear is much easier to get than Naruni stuff. It's probably almost as easy to get Triax as it is NG or Wilks stuff. GM's just have to remember not to hand out front line NGR gear because that is exclusive to the NGR military However a few front line NGR items are sold in NA, usually they are underpowered variants though, like the NA version(Yep Triax makes underpowered versions of some of their gear for sale here in NA) of the Triax Predator or Terrain Hopper. The Triax Ulti-max is also sold here. At least 3 kinds of Body Armor. The Ion pulse rifle and the 2 pump weapons. There's a jet-pack. The Dyna-Max robot and probably other weapons/armor/vehicles I am forgetting.

Ask your GM to reexamine some of the Triax sections, like the Sourcebook and reevaluate whether he/she should make these items more available. Particularly the pump weapons, those are one the main equalizers in dealing with energy immune casters.

rat_bastard wrote:

Ziggurat the Eternal wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:

Sir Arkady wrote:I can see your point.

My group runs it as a top of the line body armor, but that is based on the detail of it not needing any special skill to use it (which where the GM's I play with draw the line).

That works, my group runs with a heavily modified Knock off as their primary power armor.

Modified how?

Improved Optics (advanced thermals, Laser designator), Integrates with a specific suit of light environmental armor, has a built in force field (1/2 are Naruni, 1/2 are Spinne), Wilk's helmet radio, Modular Forearm and Hip Mountings, Sonic sensor and Jump Jets.

Lobo wrote:

Dustin Fireblade wrote:Well Revised SB1 does go into some detail on this - and yeah Triax imports are not easy to come by.

So they have reversed all the other sourcebooks that say Triax stuff in NA is just uncommon? I mean like Rat Bastard pointed out there is a Triax dealership in Merctown. Can't be that hard to get if there's dealerships in NA. The Coalition has a trade agreement with Triax to allow their stuff to be sold here. This all changed for some reason?

Sir Arkady wrote:In the game I played in the Gladius user hooked up to one of the backpack batteries for extended use. I mentioned the Gladius because it not only has almost as much MDC as a suit of power armor, but it also adds an attack per melee like one as well.

If I ever play one of the rare non-psionic Cyber-Knights I might take this suit. I'll just hook up a charging cable (and a quick-disconnect) to the power-plant of my robot horse.

rat_bastard wrote:

Sir Arkady wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:Hate to break it to you but in the but the Gladius sits on the Power Armor side of the Power Armor/Exoskeleton line, Its a vehicle, not a suit.

I thought from the write-up the Gladius blurred the line between the two. I also don't remember seing any special skills needed to be able to pilot one of them, so I figured it would have been closer to body armor than power armor. (I personally draw the line between the two by the prescence of a needed skill, and especially something like a chart of bonuses from having power-armor combat elite in the suit.)

One, it has full vehicle stats, the other Exoskeletons don't, two there is a later power armor that is the Galdius with Fins in Merc Ops, three it lists its power source, something other full enviros don't do.

Young Freud wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:There is also the effect of independent traders buying Triax surplus and selling them at profit overseas at a 100% markup.

Also, note that Northern Gun sells knock offs or licensed builds of Triax equipment, like the Explorer armor and others.