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OK, its happening again, Me and Mac are going to host another home brewed beer party, Friday night at our hotel room. This year the brews are Bastard's Brew, a ale with a wonderful blend of honey malts, rat_bastard's IPA, a beer as bitter as rat_bastard's resentment of Brandon Aten and a Porter, made from a beer kit labeled "Porter".

We may have a few other sundry beers and a few bottles of mead, as well as some beverages we may or may not have distilled ourselves.

Now about the Whiskey, well, we feel if we are going to bring our a-game with beers we carefully brewed the least our guests could do is try and get us drunk, so the challenge is to bring a bottle of your preferred whiskey. I'm talking sipping whiskey, not the stuff you mix with coke, so no bottles of aristocrap or midnight hobo. Good Vodka would also be appreciated.

You must be 18 to enter and 21 to drink, the room's doors open at about 9:00 PM and close when the hosts pass out.

Also Mac had stomach surgery last august so he will be the designated sober guy along with Subbie, respect their sober judgment.

We'll be at the hotel Friday. We plan on attending your 2010 Beer n Whiskey party.

1) If everything goes according to plan, Bastards Brew is becoming famous this year. You'll see what I mean.
2) I will be bringing Bourbon. Yes, its a type of whiskey but it is entirely better.

I think Id like to see a picture of Rat Bastards home before trying something home-brewed. I have images of lots of little rats lying on their backs in sewerage with empty bottles of Jack next to them...

Are you doing any sodas this year? A friend did a root beer / sasparilla that was really impressive and he's trying a honey root beer next. As for beers, I am interested to see how your ale turns out.

Spinachcat wrote:Are you doing any sodas this year? A friend did a root beer / sasparilla that was really impressive and he's trying a honey root beer next. As for beers, I am interested to see how your ale turns out.

No, it turned out really bad and me and Mac decided if we want to drink a bunch of sugars we'll have a beer.

I’ve got tickets to the VIP and rest for the weekend but I am unsure if I will go or not. If I do RB I’ll be there this time for sure. Not like a good Canuk to miss a beer and whisky party. I’ll bring a bottle of 18year old Gibson’s Finest. Does that qualify?

Greyaxe wrote:I’ve got tickets to the VIP ad rest for the weekend but an unsure if I will go or not. If I do RB I’ll be there this time for sure. Not like a good Canuk to miss a beer and whisky party. I’ll bring a bottle of 18year old Gibson’s Finest. Does that qualify?

Aw dude, you totally have to come. If not for the booze, for the fun.

Hmm... is Rat Bastard worth a shot of my Single Barrel JD? I guess that depends on what he brings to the table this year...

I'll be sure to at least stop in again this year, though I'll try and tip back at least one and be a little more sociable (it'll help if I'm not trying to GM a game this year).

I only got to stop in for a bit last year, because I was running games at the warehouse so late. I want to be scheduled early this year so I can attend and be in some pick up games at the hotel like Warwolfs nightbane game last year. Oh well. Regardless, I'm bringing a bottle of JD (for everyone who drinks it...I've had it in my house for months but wont touch the stuff, and a couple bottles of bourbon for me and those worthy of its goodness.

The Galactus Kid wrote:

Greyaxe wrote:I’ve got tickets to the VIP ad rest for the weekend but an unsure if I will go or not. If I do RB I’ll be there this time for sure. Not like a good Canuk to miss a beer and whisky party. I’ll bring a bottle of 18year old Gibson’s Finest. Does that qualify?

Aw dude, you totally have to come. If not for the booze, for the fun.

HA! got some income tax back. Things are looking up. Now for a passport......

Greyaxe wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:

Greyaxe wrote:I’ve got tickets to the VIP ad rest for the weekend but an unsure if I will go or not. If I do RB I’ll be there this time for sure. Not like a good Canuk to miss a beer and whisky party. I’ll bring a bottle of 18year old Gibson’s Finest. Does that qualify?

Aw dude, you totally have to come. If not for the booze, for the fun.

HA! got some income tax back. Things are looking up. Now for a passport......

Could this mean, mayhap, that I might soon meet another of my whiskey-swilling, metal-headed brethren? I know that on this side of the border there was news of a back-log of passport applications, so I hope you got yours in earlier.

Warwolf wrote:

Greyaxe wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:

Greyaxe wrote:I’ve got tickets to the VIP ad rest for the weekend but an unsure if I will go or not. If I do RB I’ll be there this time for sure. Not like a good Canuk to miss a beer and whisky party. I’ll bring a bottle of 18year old Gibson’s Finest. Does that qualify?

Aw dude, you totally have to come. If not for the booze, for the fun.

HA! got some income tax back. Things are looking up. Now for a passport......

Could this mean, mayhap, that I might soon meet another of my whiskey-swilling, metal-headed brethren? I know that on this side of the border there was news of a back-log of passport applications, so I hope you got yours in earlier.

It seems this may come to pass. Assuming the passport thing doesn’t go awry.

Ninjabunny wrote:Anyone a fan of Canadian Mist or Markers Mark?

I'm a fan of Makers Mark. I'm a Makers Mark Ambassador.

Bourbon is to Whiskey as Squares are to Rectangles.

All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

I also like Maker's Mark.

mumah wrote:I also like Maker's Mark.

Thats a good thing, roomie.

Ninjabunny wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:

mumah wrote:I also like Maker's Mark.

Thats a good thing, roomie.

Maker's Mark is so smooth and just finishes so clean, Same reason I like Canadian Mist same strength as Jack but smoother and not so costly.

Evan Williams 9 year, Buffalo Trace Eagle Rare, Blantons. I really like Makers Mark, but living in KY has its perks...like a lot of better Bourbon. This is your summer reading list.

The Galactus Kid wrote:

Ninjabunny wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:

mumah wrote:I also like Maker's Mark.

Thats a good thing, roomie.

Maker's Mark is so smooth and just finishes so clean, Same reason I like Canadian Mist same strength as Jack but smoother and not so costly.

Evan Williams 9 year, Buffalo Trace Eagle Rare, Blantons. I really like Makers Mark, but living in KY has its perks...like a lot of better Bourbon. This is your summer reading list.

Yes, to the above plus some love for Woodford Reserve.

Ninjabunny wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:

Ninjabunny wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:

mumah wrote:I also like Maker's Mark.

Thats a good thing, roomie.

Maker's Mark is so smooth and just finishes so clean, Same reason I like Canadian Mist same strength as Jack but smoother and not so costly.

Evan Williams 9 year, Buffalo Trace Eagle Rare, Blantons. I really like Makers Mark, but living in KY has its perks...like a lot of better Bourbon. This is your summer reading list.

My families from Bell county, I shall do this summer reading.....................*heck-up*

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

Four roses and Elijah Craig 18 year are my favorite American whiskeys.

Maccracken county here, Western Kentucky, transplanted to California. If you all want and I can swing it past airport security, in my check baggage I will try and bring some good ole corn made moonshine. What you guys say.

rat_bastard wrote:Four roses and Elijah Craig 18 year are my favorite American whiskeys.

Depends on which Four Roses. If I bring Blantons, that will be reserved for a few special people (maybe even you, Ratty lol) and I may bring some Makers or Evan Williams to share.

ingexthefuryhunter1 wrote:Maccracken county here, Western Kentucky, transplanted to California. If you all want and I can swing it past airport security, in my check baggage I will try and bring some good ole corn made moonshine. What you guys say.

ick. No offense. My old neighbor brought some shine back from Eastern Kentucky one weekend. If you have ever thought of what a live rat burrowing itself out of your neck would feel like, I think I can accurately describe it.

That was Rock Gut, I make true white lightening, taste like sugar kicks like a mule and leaves you wanting more. But I found out that I can not even check a pint, as it is a liquid so I guess I will being picking up a bottle of Markers Mark ten year when I land.

If I remember correctly, the Kroger just down the road from the hotel has a liquor store department up at the front just past the registers.

Ninjabunny wrote:I'm gonna drive a car over ratty's handsome face.

The Galactus Kid wrote:not before I punch him in his stupid head

Nimmy wrote:

Warning: not before I ban his stupid face from the boards

some random guy wrote:I will crush him with my mind!

you guys are mean!

I am in. Jameason or mm. Maybe gentalman jack... hell maybe all 3. I got a half bottle of each i need to drink... though i do like jameason of the whole lot.

I'm a fan of Jameson if I'm drinking Whiskey. Believe me, I will educate the lot of you on the diffeence between whiskey and bourbon.

The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm a fan of Jameson if I'm drinking Whiskey. Believe me, I will educate the lot of you on the diffeence between whiskey and bourbon.

Ohhhhh really....................

Reelman wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:I'm a fan of Jameson if I'm drinking Whiskey. Believe me, I will educate the lot of you on the diffeence between whiskey and bourbon.

Ohhhhh really....................

With the exception of this chump. hahaha.

Bourbon whiskey should at all times be referred to as bourbon and NOT whiskey. Its like referring to a Lamborghini as a simple car. Sure, it is an automobile but referring to it as such puts it in the same league as Ford Festiva when in actuality they are two very different things.

I don't know much about whiskey/bourbon. I don't really do the hard stuff. I'm a Bells fan myself. I stock my fridge here in Madtown with the Two Hearted. I had thought about picking up a case of that instead of the whiskey. If that is a drink ya'll find agreeable. Else maybe I'll buy the bottle of whiskey and possibly drink all the beer.

jorel wrote:I don't know much about whiskey/bourbon. I don't really do the hard stuff. I'm a Bells fan myself. I stock my fridge here in Madtown with the Two Hearted. I had thought about picking up a case of that instead of the whiskey. If that is a drink ya'll find agreeable. Else maybe I'll buy the bottle of whiskey and possibly drink all the beer.

Bell's Two Hearted is RAD!!!

The Galactus Kid wrote:

jorel wrote:I don't know much about whiskey/bourbon. I don't really do the hard stuff. I'm a Bells fan myself. I stock my fridge here in Madtown with the Two Hearted. I had thought about picking up a case of that instead of the whiskey. If that is a drink ya'll find agreeable. Else maybe I'll buy the bottle of whiskey and possibly drink all the beer.

Bell's Two Hearted is RAD!!!

My heart agrees. My liver disagrees. My brain is confused. Maybe I need a beer. Oops, too early.

jorel wrote:Oops, too early.

Never

jorel wrote:I don't know much about whiskey/bourbon. I don't really do the hard stuff. I'm a Bells fan myself. I stock my fridge here in Madtown with the Two Hearted. I had thought about picking up a case of that instead of the whiskey. If that is a drink ya'll find agreeable. Else maybe I'll buy the bottle of whiskey and possibly drink all the beer.

What do the hosts of the party think of my suggestion?

jorel wrote:

jorel wrote:I don't know much about whiskey/bourbon. I don't really do the hard stuff. I'm a Bells fan myself. I stock my fridge here in Madtown with the Two Hearted. I had thought about picking up a case of that instead of the whiskey. If that is a drink ya'll find agreeable. Else maybe I'll buy the bottle of whiskey and possibly drink all the beer.

What do the hosts of the party think of my suggestion?

If you feel it deserves to be brought and it has a character worth sharing go ahead and bring it, Just don't be like those drunk yahoos last year who brought a case of Budweiser and expect us to be impressed.

rat_bastard wrote:

jorel wrote:

jorel wrote:I don't know much about whiskey/bourbon. I don't really do the hard stuff. I'm a Bells fan myself. I stock my fridge here in Madtown with the Two Hearted. I had thought about picking up a case of that instead of the whiskey. If that is a drink ya'll find agreeable. Else maybe I'll buy the bottle of whiskey and possibly drink all the beer.

What do the hosts of the party think of my suggestion?

If you feel it deserves to be brought and it has a character worth sharing go ahead and bring it, Just don't be like those drunk yahoos last year who brought a case of Budweiser and expect us to be impressed.

Was that before or after I got there? If I see budweiser, I'm refusing them the sale of Triax 2.

Which is the favorite beer Ninjabunny?

Hi there,

I am following this thread with interest

The Galactus Kid wrote:If I see budweiser...

Incidentally, I like that beer. Assuming you mean the American Budweiser, it is refreshing and tastes well.

Actually, to be exact, I like both unrelated namesakes.

Certainly, the Czech version is - *cough* (historically speaking and in terms of Bavarian heritage of beers) in essence a German beer *cough* - and fantastic. The American Budweiser is lighter, not strictly speaking a German beer which in the world are surely without par *cough again*, but a great drink. Beer to beer comparison in that case is like apples and oranges. But, incidentally again, it could be said that the US Budweiser has very German roots as both founders were Germans.

While speaking of beer, a great - also essentially German - beer is the Chinese Tsingtao, founded during Germany's short stint at colonialism in 1903. And, while I have not followed this fully, Anheuser-Busch, at least for a time, held a considerable stake in Tsintao (though they wanted to sell at least a major part in 2009; don't know if they did). So: The company of the descendant's of German immigrants had shares in a German founded now Chinese beer company.

Funnily enough, while I think that nobody can sincerely contend that any beer is better than a German beer, I myself prefer English ales, such as Newcastle Brown Ale and Abbot Ale.

Aaah, beer.

Cheers
Hendrik

Ninjabunny wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:Was that before or after I got there? If I see budweiser, I'm refusing them the sale of Triax 2.

Hey that's my favorite domestic beer sir (sam adams a very close second) Heineken is my favorite beer.

Yeah, if he had said such 2-3 years ago those would have been fighting words (St. Louis is my "home city"). However, now that they are owned by InBev (a local tragedy by the way) I feel much less loyalty to their brands. Of course, I do still like most of their labels (Bud, Bud Light, Busch, and Busch Light) but avoid buying them when I can.

I have enjoyed expanding my horizons in the past several years though (I dig Killians, Heineken, and Boulevard Wheat so far). That reminds me, my friend has some Sam Adams Cherry Wheat for me to try... I think I may need to make a trip this evening.

Warwolf wrote:

Ninjabunny wrote:

The Galactus Kid wrote:Was that before or after I got there? If I see budweiser, I'm refusing them the sale of Triax 2.

Hey that's my favorite domestic beer sir (sam adams a very close second) Heineken is my favorite beer.

Yeah, if he had said such 2-3 years ago those would have been fighting words (St. Louis is my "home city"). However, now that they are owned by InBev (a local tragedy by the way) I feel much less loyalty to their brands. Of course, I do still like most of their labels (Bud, Bud Light, Busch, and Busch Light) but avoid buying them when I can.

I have enjoyed expanding my horizons in the past several years though (I dig Killians, Heineken, and Boulevard Wheat so far). That reminds me, my friend has some Sam Adams Cherry Wheat for me to try... I think I may need to make a trip this evening.

1) If you prefer Budweiser to Sam, I weep for you.
2) Warwolf...St. Louis and no Schlafly love?
3) Bunny, I guess I'm going to sell Triax 2 to Shini and tell her not to show it to you.

Ok, about American Beer:

Back during that great war we all remember fondly The Americans sent a huge amount of its strapping young lads overseas, so the price of grains and wheat went up. So American beer companies used rice as part of their recipes and lowered the hops becuase it was all they could afford, this produced the modern American McBeer (bud, miller, pabst etc) which gave america a well deserved reputation for light mild beers.

However, the American desire to have 2000 different choices of everything combined with innovators like Jim Kotch (brewer of Sam Adams) has caused a Renaissance of brewing in the states. While the most common beers sold in america are the McBrews it should be noted that america has brews with all of the passion and love of beer that any other nation can boast.

One thing I did learn that surprised the heck out of me was that Budweiser and its like are popular in Europe, not as beer but as a light beer substitute, for when you want a beer but a beer would be a bit heavy.

rat_bastard wrote:Ok, about American Beer:

Back during that great war we all remember fondly The Americans sent a huge amount of its strapping young lads overseas, so the price of grains and wheat went up. So American beer companies used rice as part of their recipes and lowered the hops becuase it was all they could afford, this produced the modern American McBeer (bud, miller, pabst etc) which gave america a well deserved reputation for light mild beers.

However, the American desire to have 2000 different choices of everything combined with innovators like Jim Kotch (brewer of Sam Adams) has caused a Renaissance of brewing in the states. While the most common beers sold in america are the McBrews it should be noted that america has brews with all of the passion and love of beer that any other nation can boast.

One thing I did learn that surprised the heck out of me was that Budweiser and its like are popular in Europe, not as beer but as a light beer substitute, for when you want a beer but a beer would be a bit heavy.

Hi there,

that's very interesting, thank you. Nice background info I did not have.

To my shame I thought that the States have nothing but the likes of Coor's, Miller and Bud. I stand humbled. Certainly, and just in case anyone would think so, no offence was meant!

rat_bastard wrote: One thing I did learn that surprised the heck out of me was that Budweiser and its like are popular in Europe, not as beer but as a light beer substitute, for when you want a beer but a beer would be a bit heavy.

That's right. At least for me. Nothing beats a couple of Coor's light or Miller's when BBQ'ing, for me that is. You can drink lots, have a beerish taste and it is more refreshing but not unlike a softdrink. That is not slighting these beers, actually I think it is a compliment because it is nice not to feel inebriated too quickly. Funny thing, though, is of course that you might be (well, I would likely be tipsy after a while) because the alcohol percentage is the same (with the non-light versions). It just feels different. For want of a better term: these beers are lighter on the palate, less weighty in taste somehow than the typical German beer, I find.

As aside, of the typical German beers that have the same refreshing effect and also taste deceptively light IMVHO you would have to drink Wheat Beer (be that the yeast or the crystal variant), which especially in its low or no-alcohol versions is a wonderful summer drink, cyclists here love it.

I am so looking forward to the Open House! This is going to be instructive, I am sure. (Memo to myself: must try Sam Adams and interface wit rat_bastard to get more advise re beer )

Cheers
Hendrik

Bell's: Two Hearted Ale is a great of an American style India Pale Ale 7% and magically delicious. Or is that Lucky Charms. The brewery is about 2 hours from Palladium's warehouse.

Hendrik wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:Ok, about American Beer:

Back during that great war we all remember fondly The Americans sent a huge amount of its strapping young lads overseas, so the price of grains and wheat went up. So American beer companies used rice as part of their recipes and lowered the hops becuase it was all they could afford, this produced the modern American McBeer (bud, miller, pabst etc) which gave america a well deserved reputation for light mild beers.

However, the American desire to have 2000 different choices of everything combined with innovators like Jim Kotch (brewer of Sam Adams) has caused a Renaissance of brewing in the states. While the most common beers sold in america are the McBrews it should be noted that america has brews with all of the passion and love of beer that any other nation can boast.

One thing I did learn that surprised the heck out of me was that Budweiser and its like are popular in Europe, not as beer but as a light beer substitute, for when you want a beer but a beer would be a bit heavy.

Hi there,

that's very interesting, thank you. Nice background info I did not have.

To my shame I thought that the States have nothing but the likes of Coor's, Miller and Bud. I stand humbled. Certainly, and just in case anyone would think so, no offence was meant!

I was the same - before I first went to America I assumed all they had was the American beers that they sell over here in Europe. The first pub I went to i ordered a Sam Adams and I was gobsmacked. It was brilliant! And some of the microbreweries are even better. There are some really good beers on offer in the US; I can't believe that they don't sell them over here, and all we get is Budweiser* and Coors. You're in for a treat, Hendrik!

Re your other choice of beers: no, no, no, no, Tsingtao is not a good beer. I've been to Tsingtao/Qingdao a few times, and if you get a beer there then it's great, but if you buy a Tisngtao anywhere else in China or the rest of the world, it tasts like (and probably is) rat urine.

German beer is great.
English beer is great.
Many American beers are great.

Best beers in the world - Belgian. No contest.







*the wrong kind of Budweiser.

Soldier of Od wrote:

Hendrik wrote:

rat_bastard wrote:Ok, about American Beer:

Back during that great war we all remember fondly The Americans sent a huge amount of its strapping young lads overseas, so the price of grains and wheat went up. So American beer companies used rice as part of their recipes and lowered the hops becuase it was all they could afford, this produced the modern American McBeer (bud, miller, pabst etc) which gave america a well deserved reputation for light mild beers.

However, the American desire to have 2000 different choices of everything combined with innovators like Jim Kotch (brewer of Sam Adams) has caused a Renaissance of brewing in the states. While the most common beers sold in america are the McBrews it should be noted that america has brews with all of the passion and love of beer that any other nation can boast.

One thing I did learn that surprised the heck out of me was that Budweiser and its like are popular in Europe, not as beer but as a light beer substitute, for when you want a beer but a beer would be a bit heavy.

Hi there,

that's very interesting, thank you. Nice background info I did not have.

To my shame I thought that the States have nothing but the likes of Coor's, Miller and Bud. I stand humbled. Certainly, and just in case anyone would think so, no offence was meant!

I was the same - before I first went to America I assumed all they had was the American beers that they sell over here in Europe. The first pub I went to i ordered a Sam Adams and I was gobsmacked. It was brilliant! And some of the microbreweries are even better. There are some really good beers on offer in the US; I can't believe that they don't sell them over here, and all we get is Budweiser* and Coors. You're in for a treat, Hendrik!

Re your other choice of beers: no, no, no, no, Tsingtao is not a good beer. I've been to Tsingtao/Qingdao a few times, and if you get a beer there then it's great, but if you buy a Tisngtao anywhere else in China or the rest of the world, it tasts like (and probably is) rat urine.

German beer is great.
English beer is great.
Many American beers are great.

Best beers in the world - Belgian. No contest.







*the wrong kind of Budweiser.

Well I have a great deal of respect for any kind of brewer who takes allot of care to make a distinct product I cannot get past the sweetness in Belgian malts, I much prefer the bitterness to overpower the sweetness and Belgian beers all seem to have this trademark sweetness that does not mesh with my palette.

As for Sam Adams, they are a extremely good "gateway" beer that produces many many varieties of beer, that said everything they produce in my opinion is produced better by some other brewery.

Soldier of Od wrote:I was the same - before I first went to America I assumed all they had was the American beers that they sell over here in Europe. The first pub I went to i ordered a Sam Adams and I was gobsmacked. It was brilliant! And some of the microbreweries are even better. There are some really good beers on offer in the US; I can't believe that they don't sell them over here, and all we get is Budweiser* and Coors. You're in for a treat, Hendrik!

Re your other choice of beers: no, no, no, no, Tsingtao is not a good beer. I've been to Tsingtao/Qingdao a few times, and if you get a beer there then it's great, but if you buy a Tisngtao anywhere else in China or the rest of the world, it tasts like (and probably is) rat urine.

German beer is great.
English beer is great.
Many American beers are great.

Best beers in the world - Belgian. No contest.

Of course, I disagree on the Belgian vote. Belgian beers are good, no doubt, but for me personally, they rank a well-deserved 3rd after German and English beers.

Regarding Tsintao, well, I had my first in Hong Kong. Admittedly, I was very thirsty and it tasted REALLY well. Also, in the midst of all the Asian strangeness (as in quark, strangeness and charm) I simply felt very far from home and my kind of civilization. I have (rather old) family history with Tsintao so that felt like a little taste from home, too. My guess would be that that might have made it taste better for me than might have been warranted. I don't really know.

Looking forward to be in for a treat
one of which will be to have a hot dog and any one cold beer and watch the Tigers' game on Thursday in Comerica park
Hendrik

rat_bastard wrote:Well I have a great deal of respect for any kind of brewer who takes allot of care to make a distinct product I cannot get past the sweetness in Belgian malts, I much prefer the bitterness to overpower the sweetness and Belgian beers all seem to have this trademark sweetness that does not mess with my palette.

Spot on, rat_bastard!

I go to France once or twice a year - besides, they have a beer which is called 1604 which is very nice when really cold - and they have a high respect for the Belgian beers, too. Trying to treat me to something nice whenever I can, I tried Belgian beers several times but it, somehow, always fell short of my expectations. My feeling is that your usual Belgian beer is more like a sweetish pale lager (Dortmunder export or Export) than a pilsner (not the Pilsner beer, but a pilsner as brewed all over the Czech Repubnlic and Germany), which I prefer. Yet, I am vaguely aware that the Belgians have a HUGE variety of beers and beer types and I assume there are several that are more than just nice. I just did not have the great stuff ... yet.

So, Soldier of Od, I might - coming to think of it - not (yet) be truly qualified to judge Belgian beers. English and German beers I know quite well.

Cheers
Hendrik

No way will we all agree on what beers are best - better play it safe and just drink all of them!

Soldier of Od wrote:No way will we all agree on what beers are best - better play it safe and just drink all of them!

lol. Sounds like you're the man with the plan.

Soldier of Od wrote:No way will we all agree on what beers are best - better play it safe and just drink all of them!

Verily!

I may cite directly and with supreme confidence from Shakesbeer, when he has the Fool say to King Lager:

"I see that thou art in pain.
Prithee, nuncle, be contend. Rest thy fears.
If thou searchest for the greatest of beers
thy quest shalt never be in vain.
Thou shalt not conquer the matter by finding, nay,
but by searching until the end of rhyme and time.
Therein lyeth the one true way,
tipplin' to tipsy happiness and glee
do you not see?
Thine path is not paved with gold
but - Glory! - with all the beers of old!"

The gist of this wise and time-tested sentiment has even been embeded in the constitution protecting our friends in the US: The pursuit of happiness.

The pursuit.

So, let's!

Cheers
Hendrik