is the a secret that shemmarians are robots?

[Dunia]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

[rat_bastard]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

zen combat would tell them that their sensory organs are artificial, it would not tell them that they are robots.

[jaymz]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

zen combat would tell them that their sensory organs are artificial, it would not tell them that they are robots.

So in other words yes, the fact they are robots/androids made to look liek full conversion borgs is the secret

[Mack]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Keep in mind that the CyberKnight also has to live to tell about it.

[taalismn]

...Or reads them as very sophiosticated and complete cyborgs*. Since they're alien, that's not saying a lot; it doesn't scream "I'M OF TERRESTRIAL MANUFACTURE BY A DEMENTED EARTH COMPUTER SET ON CONQUERING THE WORLD!!!"

*Look at Ghost in the Shell as an example of extreme terrestrial cyberpunk...a lot of the people have "E-brains" which is inferred to mean that large portions(if not the entirity) of the brain has been replaced by nanotechnological computers and artificial structures for greater efficiency...yet the people are regarded as human under the law(whereas in Bubblegum Crisis, you're legally screwed if you go above a certain percentage of your body being artifical components---you're classed as a 'boomeroid' and the police don't have to read you your rights or give you the chance to surrender before using lethal force on you).

[Dunia]

AH, Ok thanks:)

[TechnoGothic]

Zen-combat affects Cyborgs too.

[jaymz]

Zen-combat affects Cyborgs too.

That wasn't what was in question.....Zen combat will not tell the Cyberknight the Shemarrians are androids even though he would, from a game stand point, get even bigger bonuses against them than he/she would against a regular 'borg.

[rat_bastard]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Keep in mind that the CyberKnight also has to live to tell about it.

Since a 4th level cyber knight has effectively free invisibility to technology with pretty much no restrictions its not that hard. This is yet another reason why Archie is not one of the five greatest power blocks in NA.

[DhAkael]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Keep in mind that the CyberKnight also has to live to tell about it.

Since a 4th level cyber knight has effectively free invisibility to technology with pretty much no restrictions its not that hard. This is yet another reason why Archie is not one of the five greatest power blocks in NA.

Wott da ratz sedd!

[Mack]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Keep in mind that the CyberKnight also has to live to tell about it.

Since a 4th level cyber knight has effectively free invisibility to technology with pretty much no restrictions its not that hard.

Not as I read the Zen-Knight "Basic Combat Awareness." The CK gets some bonuses (or rather, his tech opponent gets some penalties) but the CK is in no way invisible at level 4.

Were you referring to level six Cloud Sensors ability?

[Dog_O_War]

Zen-combat affects Cyborgs too.

Zen-combat has no real effect until 4th level, and then it's only against one target until later levels, and still has no effect on attacks that target the area.

[TechnoGothic]

i was just stating that CK affects Cyborgs as well as Robots, and has no way to tell the difference in the opponet in question.

All the CK knows is the opponet has technology based perception (eyes, sensors). Thats it.

[rat_bastard]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Keep in mind that the CyberKnight also has to live to tell about it.

Since a 4th level cyber knight has effectively free invisibility to technology with pretty much no restrictions its not that hard.

Not as I read the Zen-Knight "Basic Combat Awareness." The CK gets some bonuses (or rather, his tech opponent gets some penalties) but the CK is in no way invisible at level 4.

Were you referring to level six Cloud Sensors ability?

probably, still a major issue.

[taalismn]

i was just stating that CK affects Cyborgs as well as Robots, and has no way to tell the difference in the opponet in question.

All the CK knows is the opponet has technology based perception (eyes, sensors). Thats it.

"I got you now, you bast---WTH?! Where'd he go?!"
---Another reason not to have BOTH your eyes replaced just so you can get sniper-sight cyberoptics.

[Grinning Demon]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Dude the Shemarrians are robot?! I thought all this time they are just hot chic, dam thanks a lot for spoiling this for me Dunia

[taalismn]

Just curious, in most books concerning Shemarrians, it is said that people are not sure what they are, most think of them as a nomadic amazon-like people who enjoys to stuff them so much with cyberware that they are almost full-conversion borgs. But with the Cyber Knight Zen-Combat, all cyberknights who have faceda shemarrian must know that the shamarrians are robots, so how can it be a secret?

Dude the Shemarrians are robot?! I thought all this time they are just hot chic, dam thanks a lot for spoiling this for me Dunia

And...the truth sets another one free...

[Incriptus]

It's not like that Cyberknight can just jump on twitter and say "OMG Shemarians are 'bots!"

Sure he can tell people, "My friend John was told by his uncle who was told by real life Cyber knight that Shemarians are robots" . . . "No everybody knows they're D-bee cyborgs, John's Uncle needs to lay off the Fire Water".

I guess he can write it down and get it published and mass produced in book form. Of course then it's still heresay by the publisher [who is going to be discredited by ARCHIE]

Well maybe the Cyberknights could invent their own publishing house. Of course they'd probably want to confirm it . . . now would it be worthwhile to send multiple knights to the east coast just to confirm they're robots . . . and then what.

I'm sure they are people [I call them Player Characters] who can or do know the secrets of the Rifts Earth, but on the information front those people are checked by either extablished wisdom/propaganda/rumors.