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Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:35 pm
by pblackcrow
I need a judgement call on the spell telekinesis. Can it be used on multiple objects per casting, as long as the combined weight is not over 60 lbs? Or is it just 1 object per casting?

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:48 pm
by tuvermage
Depends on the level of the caster and if all items in question are in line of sight. House rule is 1 item +1 per 3 levels.

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:07 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
pblackcrow wrote:I need a judgement call on the spell telekinesis. Can it be used on multiple objects per casting, as long as the combined weight is not over 60 lbs? Or is it just 1 object per casting?


Following the text of the spell (RBoM page 98) the limiter is the total weight.

Even if limited to holding one object at a time, the mage would be able to drop one item and pick up another item w/o recasting the spell so long as the durations has not elapsed.

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:58 pm
by pblackcrow
Anyone else want to chime in on this question?

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:18 am
by The Beast
pblackcrow wrote:Anyone else want to chime in on this question?


No.

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:42 pm
by Grug
I would say yes, but if the mage is lifting 60 lbs of small debris I would rule that it would only do half the normal damage. As most of the small chunks would miss or do little amount of damage, I would just make the other half of the damage go to the victims armor.
Now the mage could lift six, ten pound weights but could only attack with one at a time.

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:41 am
by Akashic Soldier
Here is another TK question, it says it gives you +4 to parry (or Dodge?) can you use it to parry in coming attacks without an action or does it just allow you a means of defense no matter what?

And can you add that bonus to anything? Or is it limited to your special TK dodge or parry?

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:09 pm
by Prysus
pblackcrow wrote:I need a judgement call on the spell telekinesis. Can it be used on multiple objects per casting, as long as the combined weight is not over 60 lbs? Or is it just 1 object per casting?

Greetings and Salutations. I know I'm late (been on a work trip for a month), but I'll add in my thoughts all the same. Telekinesis (spell) can be used on only one object at a time, but multiple items per casting. In other words, you can switch between different items all in the same casting, but you're still limited to them one at a time. Note: I'm using PF2 for this ruling. Since PB mostly uses copy & paste, I expect this to remain true across the lines. But should the wording change, this ruling may need amending.

Bases for the ruling (multiple objects): There is the quote "the magic equivalent of the psychic ability." If we look at the psychic ability, the example shows the psychic moving one object after another. The spell version also uses the "objects" (plural) form often (though this could still imply a singular option and still be grammatically correct due to usage).

Bases for the ruling (one object at a time): We'll start by repeating the psychic quote and reference. Then I'll add in the quote from the spell "Object must be visible." Note the singular usage here. This singular usage does not, in itself, contradict the plural uses.

Hopefully some of that helps.

Akashic Soldier wrote:Here is another TK question, it says it gives you +4 to parry (or Dodge?) can you use it to parry in coming attacks without an action or does it just allow you a means of defense no matter what?

And can you add that bonus to anything? Or is it limited to your special TK dodge or parry?

Again, using my PF2 book (and the spell version). If this wording isn't in a different setting (your setting of choice) please let me know and I'll research the matter more.

First, Telekinesis cannot be used to dodge. TK can be used to parry like a physical object (either by using a literal physical object or "sheer telekinetic force to block an attack" -- quote found under the psionic physical power).

As for the bonuses, that should be a stand alone (which will be at times higher than your hand to hand parry bonus). I'll quote the spell again where it says "physical and skill bonuses to parry do not apply to telekinesis." Since these bonuses do not apply, that leaves Telekinesis as a stand alone (P.P. bonuses are physical bonuses, while hand to hand and weapon proficiencies are skill bonuses).

Okay, I think that should cover it on my end. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.

Re: Question about the spell telekinesis...

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:26 pm
by pblackcrow
Okay...A wizardess is sitting in the middle of a gladiatorial arena's weapons room surrounded by spears, nets, swords, etc.

She has the dukes son, which she is claiming is hers and that the her midwife said, after a truth spell was cast, that a man came to her and told her that a woman had lost her kid after a day of life and the he would pay her handsomely to bring him a baby with sandy blond hair and blue eyes. 8 days earlier the wizardess had given birth to her son.

So far the score is: her 260, the lords men and anyone who messes with her, 0!

She has murder the duke in the middle of the arena when he presented the child to the people at what would have been his son's 1st birthday.