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Setting, and nothing else.

The flexibility of the system, compared to games I have played. Besides since I am the GM and no one else brings the I want to GM to the table my group plays PFRPG.

Setting, setting, setting. Lots of options of places to go, adventures to be had, and excitement to be found in the PFRPG world.

The main reason is the setting. The second a rule system not focused on using miniatures.

I like to try out new games as well as cycle old favs (although I haven't played much recently). Why is Palladium Fantasy in this group of games I play? Setting. Same reason why Warhammer RPG is in there too: setting (the Old World).
So yeah, I love having fun and playing in cool and sometimes quirky settings and I don't like to limit myself.

I like PF2 because the system is easy (reminiscent of AD&D) simple enough to be fun. It isn't as cinematic as the old d6 Star Wars but still far more cinematic than d20. I like the fact the PF2 is not hung up on game balance. Sometimes game balance can seriously get in the way of a good story or even game. Don't get me wrong there is a good reason to have some game balance. but why does a highly trained paladin or palladin have to be at the same power level as a vagabond or thief? The setting is incredible and I am a fish out of water waiting for Wolfen Wars, Land of the Damned 3 and the old kingdom books. It's good to see they are finally back on the to do list. I also like the fact that there is no common tounge. I already speak the earth common tounge. I want to be in a world where its possible that there is no one for thousands of miles who does't speak your language. Yeah I know that can lead to serious problems but it is aleast realistic.

20 years ago I would have a totally different answer. "PB is Sooooooo much better (I hated D&D with a passion). Magic makes more sense. Mages and priests can pick up and swords and wear armor. Summoners/diabolists-just can't get them elsewhere. More races to play." On and on. I would play in a D&D group and after a while ask if they would try PFRPG, similar mechanics would get them to say yes, and the classes/races/flavour would get them to stay with it.

Sadly (for me/us) 2nd ed. killed all of that. It took away/changed a lot what we liked and only added rifts-like imbalance. I got the main book and dragons+gods. A friend got Old Ones, and some of the 'secrets' irked me. Now, I just can't play it. I probably am missing out on a lot of cool world stuff, but I got all the 1st ed stuff and my hiatus from PB was during the time they put out a lot of fantasy books.

I designed and published my own fantasy game, but ironically, because of time constraints and to keep rules simple I pull out D&D 4e and use my own world/universe.

Why would I play PFRPG over others? I would play 1st ed. (using PPE from 2nd edition) for nostalgia. And even though we can't 'convert' I did have awesome Wheel of Time rules using only PB OCCs (changed the OCC names, but kept everything else the same). if i did another WoT themed game, i would use PB 1e

Side note: I mean imbalance as in making certain class/races obsolete. Sure a thief should be different from a Knight, but a troll wizard should not be be better than a human/orc knight in melee combat.

ZorValachan wrote:20 years ago I would have a totally different answer. "PB is Sooooooo much better (I hated D&D with a passion). Magic makes more sense. Mages and priests can pick up and swords and wear armor. Summoners/diabolists-just can't get them elsewhere. More races to play." On and on. I would play in a D&D group and after a while ask if they would try PFRPG, similar mechanics would get them to say yes, and the classes/races/flavour would get them to stay with it.

Sadly (for me/us) 2nd ed. killed all of that. It took away/changed a lot what we liked and only added rifts-like imbalance. I got the main book and dragons+gods. A friend got Old Ones, and some of the 'secrets' irked me. Now, I just can't play it. I probably am missing out on a lot of cool world stuff, but I got all the 1st ed stuff and my hiatus from PB was during the time they put out a lot of fantasy books.

I designed and published my own fantasy game, but ironically, because of time constraints and to keep rules simple I pull out D&D 4e and use my own world/universe.

Why would I play PFRPG over others? I would play 1st ed. (using PPE from 2nd edition) for nostalgia. And even though we can't 'convert' I did have awesome Wheel of Time rules using only PB OCCs (changed the OCC names, but kept everything else the same). if i did another WoT themed game, i would use PB 1e

Side note: I mean imbalance as in making certain class/races obsolete. Sure a thief should be different from a Knight, but a troll wizard should not be be better than a human/orc knight in melee combat.

You are missing out.

I chose PFRPG for the freedom. There is almost no limit to what a player or GM can do. The setting is great too. Such a wide variety of places. I like the vast choice of races to play as well. I've notice that most other systems have it limited to a handfull of playable races

Races, classes, setting, easy rules, character based/more emphasis on things other than combat, multiple OCCs but not unlimited.

What KEPT me with PFRPG was its sheer scope of possibilities (and better longevity for the player charcters) and ofc, the megaversal system. One week play PFRPG, next week HU2, next week NB etc....

Shawn Merrow wrote:The main reason is the setting. The second a rule system not focused on using miniatures.

Actually, that is a huge point! Thanks!
We play online over Skype, and the fact that we do it with few maps and mostly "in our minds eye" is one of the reasons people are starting their own local games- in person, but still without the miniatures, grids, etc.

Because the setting and rule system are newer to me and don't have an established "feel". I can do whatever I want without feeling like I'm doing the game a disservice. I have run and enjoyed WHFRP 2nd and L5R. Palladium wouldn't be my first choice of a fantasy game, but the complete control of every aspect of the setting makes it a viable one. The particular setting is of little consequence. And I am pretty surprised no sourcebook for the Old Kingdom is out. It seems like the perfect place to adventure.

I agree with everone else SETTINGS, I've been playin PFRPG since the 80s and I love it...
I've played Star Frontiers By TSR and I've played D and D ,Star Wars and Star Trek, War Hammer and Pathfinder, but the other games don't come close to Palladium....
I've always found my self comeing back to the best, the rules are simple enought and besides u can always modify them to you needs, don't miss undersand what I'm saying you could do the same with some of the other systems, but nothing beats a good fantasy game like Palladium.
Besides its the only one I play now...I ve gotten rid of the others

Besides that. D and D THACO suxs lol
A.R. and S.D.Cs. for palladium that's a great system

I don't. I like the setting and some of the classes are cool, but there are several fantasy games that I'd put ahead of it. Frankly, the only reason I own a copy is to crib some funky magic out of it for Rifts.

in regards to the use of miniatures, they are great for a battle board as a visual aid and to map out AoE spells or to determine LoS for archers; otherwise you dont need minis. PFRPG is the best for the great OCC's, the versatile skill set and the best combat system ever devised which address real armor, and also magic combat.

the PF setting is great , i perfer the pathfinder rules for fantasy games but they dont always mesh well with the PF setting.
its hard to play a diffrent fantasy setting and not compare the storylines to PF its just that good and deep. but its stagnate and needs some infusion of setting and such before it just falls off the face of the earth. we need more PF books!

Justthis Guy wrote:the best combat system ever devised.

I'm not sure that means what you think it means.

Evil Genius Prime wrote:Hello fellow forumites,

I, myself, play and run quite a few different fantasy RPGs. So I was wondering...
What makes you choose PFRPG over other fantasy RPGs? For example, I play and run Pathfinder, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Legend of the Five Rings, and Dungeon Crawl Classics.

What other RPGs do you play/run and why would you choose Palladium Fantasy over the others?

Its a great setting, Having more than one basic type of magic system is nice. Classes feel more like real archetypes rather than cookie cutter classes. Doesn't feel as generic to me.

For me as a GM its actually the system, Its old school in so many ways. For me the combat system has a unique feel. I really like how AR works for combat, both natural and armor. How multiple actions work over games that let you attack 4 times all at once, Instead of give and take of a round. I like percentile skill systems, But don't like percentile combat systems.

I like the fact that I can get ideas and inspiration from all the other palladium books. Comparability between the games means my players can run into anything in then magaverse, with a little name change of course.

For fantasy settings, PFPRG offers alot of bonuses over other systems. For me, the world setting, ease of character creation, combat system and the lack of hack and slash are the major bonuses.

For Superhero systems, I was introduced to Champions - now known as Hero Games - 6th edition, i think - way, way, way back in college (20+ years ago) and have stuck with that system simply out of habit even though character creation is very complex. It's a point purchasing system instead of random rolls which does have its own merits. Nothing "hurts" more then wanting to create a soldier/merc/or other melee class in PFRPG and rolling an 8 for PS. Hero Games, if you want someone super strong, you just spend points for it.

I've never played Rifts even though I do own a couple of the books. The current campaign I'm running, my players are wanting to cross over, so I have been writing up the story for this to happen. 2 elves, an orc and a dwarf land in Rifts...should be fun. Luckily for my players, I'm not an evil man so they aren't going to land in Chi-Town or a similar D-Bee free zone

Cinos wrote:

Justthis Guy wrote:the best combat system ever devised.

I'm not sure that means what you think it means.

"you keep saying that word" Inyago Montoya lol