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Is there anything in the RIFTS Megaverse that can to a characters base PPE. City Rat with 5 PPE. Any item or place or magic ritual that can Increase a characters Base PPE?


Cyrus

I cant think of any.
You can start worshiping a demon or something and become a witch, probaly not what your looking for though.
Hang from the world tree?

Get Magic Tattoos. each one permanently increases your PPE base.

Zamion138 wrote:I cant think of any.
You can start worshiping a demon or something and become a witch, probaly not what your looking for though.
Hang from the world tree?

Hanging from the world tree grants spell knowlage but no PPE to cast with. strange really

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:I cant think of any.
You can start worshiping a demon or something and become a witch, probaly not what your looking for though.
Hang from the world tree?

Hanging from the world tree grants spell knowlage but no PPE to cast with. strange really

Well ok then become a witch, i think vampires might get a boost to their ppe too, go get bit.

Going to second Nekira's statement and recommend Magic Tattoos.

Also, if your GM will allow it, in Rifter 52 there's additional Magic Tattoos. One of them doesn't grant a power itself, but counts as the character's first six tattoos for purposes of calculating MDC and PPE. It won't turn someone into an MDC creature by itself (you'd need another tattoo which would be the 'seventh'). Downside is that the only way to get it is from a particularly not-nice True Atlantean clan...

Have a demon make you a scroll with Heart of Darkness on it.

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:I cant think of any.
You can start worshiping a demon or something and become a witch, probably not what your looking for though.
Hang from the world tree?

Hanging from the world tree grants spell knowledge but no PPE to cast with. strange really

Well ok then become a witch, i think vampires might get a boost to their PPE too, go get bit.

The problem with the Witch and Vamp boosts are that one have to be Evil and the other the char's dead body is possessed by a Vamp.-Intel.
However, if you "Go Liberal" and replace the Witch pact options with the Shifter "linked to the SN" options, the char can be a good guy if you choose wisely.

Worshiping: The char can become a Priest (PF2MB) to a god. You still need to choose wisely. Otherwise your char will be evil.

You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldnt be to hard....

You can be a good guy vampire as i side note.

Out of curiosity why do you want a higher ppe base for your city rat??

Mithrindir wrote:Is there anything in the RIFTS Megaverse that can to a characters base PPE. City Rat with 5 PPE. Any item or place or magic ritual that can Increase a characters Base PPE?


Cyrus

Why do you want a City Rat with more PPE? PPE is basically only used for casting magic or using Techno-Wizard devices. Otherwise a low PPE score really isn't going to be a factor very often and a low score can be a benefit at times.

Still if you are looking for additional sources of PPE that haven't been mentioned:
-talisman item (will have to get it recharged elsewhere)
-Bio-Wizardry Implants (Zembahk, Mind Booster both come to mind, possibly others)
-death (PPE doubles at moment of death, just saying)
-at GM's option a Ley Line Mutation (IINM this will have to be customized by the GM as I can't think of a specific example)
-younger character (PPE goes up for younger folks, IINM Palladium Fantasy 2E, though it will go down with time)
-Cibola (SA1) has "The Energizer" Drug that will temporarily raise the PPE
-Gene Splicer/Tech might be able to do it
-Ley Lines and Pryamids also offer extra PPE when located on them

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldnt be to hard....

Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldnt be to hard....

Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

I know but they could make you a witch to a non evil force thus keeping the city rat from evil, or if an ulta powerfull one that has attianed i belive prince or higher could grant you the ppe of of sacrifces to them or of its followers similar to a god.

Zamion138 wrote:You can be a good guy vampire as i side note.

Are you not understanding the concept of what a "Vampire" is?
Tags: insane, evil, undead, blood sucker, dead body possess by an evil SN being

PB vamps are not the "sparkly" vampires of a popular set of books & movies or those from other games (VtM) or are infected by a biological (underworld).

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can be a good guy vampire as i side note.

Are you not understanding the concept of what a "Vampire" is?
Tags: insane, evil, undead, blood sucker, dead body possess by an evil SN being

PB vamps are not the "sparkly" vampires of a popular set of books & movies or those from other games (VtM) or are infected by a biological (underworld).

There are two vampire classes in the revised vamp kingdoms you should read then. As well as an unligned vamp you can choose your targets as you see fit .....probaly an anti hero. But if they allow principled assassins you can be an anarchist or unprincipled vampire. Im aware they are not sparkly travisties of the written word.

HUmm.. can't read VKr. Don't have it. Now I know there is something stupid in it, I'm less likely to get it.

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:HUmm.. can't read VKr. Don't have it. Now I know there is something stupid in it, I'm less likely to get it.

Baring thoose two classes, there is some good stuff about the more southernly parts of mexico and smaller towns and villages. But if you dont want to run mexico and you already have VK , then i would not buy revised.

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldnt be to hard....

Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

I know but they could make you a witch to a non evil force thus keeping the city rat from evil, or if an ulta powerfull one that has attianed i belive prince or higher could grant you the ppe of of sacrifces to them or of its followers similar to a god.

How exactly could a Jinn make you a witch to a non-evil force?

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:HUmm.. can't read VKr. Don't have it. Now I know there is something stupid in it, I'm less likely to get it.

It's not stupid, those same classes make a big deal that these vampires are either crazy or else fighting an ultimately loosing battle against their nature, and that the best they can hope for is a heroic death before they succumb to their nature and become evil.

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldnt be to hard....

Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

I know but they could make you a witch to a non evil force thus keeping the city rat from evil, or if an ulta powerfull one that has attianed i belive prince or higher could grant you the ppe of of sacrifces to them or of its followers similar to a god.

How exactly could a Jinn make you a witch to a non-evil force?

You could be a witch to a AI thats either good or so diffrent its thoughts are not really fathomable as to or understanding of good and evil?



Im still wondering why you want more ppe for the city rat? Is this to use tw stuff?

biowizardry eyes of eyelor. pick up the atlantis book and deal with the spluggies for ultimate power.

Don't resident's of Arzno have the ability to use their PPE and retain a higher than normal PPE base into adulthood?

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldnt be to hard....

Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

I know but they could make you a witch to a non evil force thus keeping the city rat from evil, or if an ulta powerfull one that has attianed i belive prince or higher could grant you the ppe of of sacrifces to them or of its followers similar to a god.

How exactly could a Jinn make you a witch to a non-evil force?

You could be a witch to a AI thats either good or so diffrent its thoughts are not really fathomable as to or understanding of good and evil?

I know, I was asking how you expected an evil demonic Jinn to arrange a witch pact with a good god. Just wishing for a Jinn to do so dosn't give it the power to do it, it's very clear on that.

certain martial art styles can increase your PPE. unfortunately for you, rather than adding a set numeric value, most of them double your PPE, so it won't make a huge difference.

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:[quote="Nekira Sudac
Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

!I know but they could make you a witch to a non evil force thus keeping the city rat from evil, or if an ulta powerfull one that has attianed i belive prince or higher could grant you the ppe of of sacrifces to them or of its followers similar to a god.

How exactly could a Jinn make you a witch to a non-evil force?

You could be a witch to a AI thats either good or so diffrent its thoughts are not really fathomable as to or understanding of good and evil?

I know, I was asking how you expected an evil demonic Jinn to arrange a witch pact with a good god. Just wishing for a Jinn to do so dosn't give it the power to do it, it's very clear on that.[/quote]
Well let see ultra long shot here but, the jin could act as the servant with you getting the bonuses and aid. The jin could talk to the AI and retrive something in exchange for them giving you the powers. Nothing that likey

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:

Nekira Sudacne wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:[quote="Nekira Sudac
Djinns can't simply grant wishes in Palladium, they just use their normal demonic powers to try get you whatever it is you said you wanted, or just say "that's not within my power". They would likely just turn you into a witch anyway if you wished that.

!I know but they could make you a witch to a non evil force thus keeping the city rat from evil, or if an ulta powerfull one that has attianed i belive prince or higher could grant you the ppe of of sacrifces to them or of its followers similar to a god.

How exactly could a Jinn make you a witch to a non-evil force?

You could be a witch to a AI thats either good or so diffrent its thoughts are not really fathomable as to or understanding of good and evil?

I know, I was asking how you expected an evil demonic Jinn to arrange a witch pact with a good god. Just wishing for a Jinn to do so dosn't give it the power to do it, it's very clear on that.

Well let see ultra long shot here but, the jin could act as the servant with you getting the bonuses and aid. The jin could talk to the AI and retrive something in exchange for them giving you the powers. Nothing that likey[/quote]

longshot to say the least.

One thing to note if you want a city rat with some extra PPE to start with the arzno book I believe gives some rules for people who grew up in a city that uses a lot of TW stuff to keep the increased PPE that kids/teenagers have which tends to give them 10-15 ppe to start with which is often enough to power the more minor TW stuff.

It'd be nice to hear the reason why this City Rat is trying to increase its PPE, since the only reliable way to do that is to take up being a magic user of some sort as the training increases your base PPE once you reach level 1 mastery.

There is a magic elixir found in Splynn Dimensional Market, under the description of the Water Merchant. A potion/elixir/whatever that grants a boost to a persons PPE reserve.

Grand Paladin wrote:There is a magic elixir found in Splynn Dimensional Market, under the description of the Water Merchant. A potion/elixir/whatever that grants a boost to a persons PPE reserve.

The OP though wanted to raise their permanent base though. Hence no ppe clips and talismans.

So mith? You started this mess why do you want the higher base????

Zamion138 wrote:

Grand Paladin wrote:There is a magic elixir found in Splynn Dimensional Market, under the description of the Water Merchant. A potion/elixir/whatever that grants a boost to a persons PPE reserve.

The OP though wanted to raise their permanent base though. Hence no ppe clips and talismans.

I think that repeated and continued use affects the base PPE on a permanent basis. I could be wrong.

Grand Paladin wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:

Grand Paladin wrote:There is a magic elixir found in Splynn Dimensional Market, under the description of the Water Merchant. A potion/elixir/whatever that grants a boost to a persons PPE reserve.

The OP though wanted to raise their permanent base though. Hence no ppe clips and talismans.

I think that repeated and continued use affects the base PPE on a permanent basis. I could be wrong.

Yup this is pretty much the arzno ruling. People who grow up in an area that uses magic all the time and lots of techno wizard stuff basically don't burn off their childhood PPE like most do and retain that which while not huge is enough to power up simple TW items/weapons pretty well.

kaid wrote:

Grand Paladin wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:

Grand Paladin wrote:There is a magic elixir found in Splynn Dimensional Market, under the description of the Water Merchant. A potion/elixir/whatever that grants a boost to a persons PPE reserve.

The OP though wanted to raise their permanent base though. Hence no ppe clips and talismans.

I think that repeated and continued use affects the base PPE on a permanent basis. I could be wrong.

Yup this is pretty much the arzno ruling. People who grow up in an area that uses magic all the time and lots of techno wizard stuff basically don't burn off their childhood PPE like most do and retain that which while not huge is enough to power up simple TW items/weapons pretty well.

Ohhh yeah that but we were talking about the exlir from atlantis two?

Have a Soul Harvester take your soul. Your PPE will become part of something bigger.

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:HUmm.. can't read VKr. Don't have it. Now I know there is something stupid in it, I'm less likely to get it.

Didn't the original Vampire Kingdoms Secondary Vampire RCC have the ability to break the mold and be Unprincipled? Yes, Master Vampires are evil and possessed, but Secondary Vamps retain a lot of their old memories and personality IIRC.

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldn't be to hard....

You can be a good guy vampire as i side note.

Out of curiosity why do you want a higher ppe base for your city rat??

Things is we wanted to start a small campaign. I love magic and the possibilities. Soooo I want to basically become something else.

GM working with me slowly 25 sessions later. I now have 46PPE. I am on my way. I like the Tattoo idea. I was once a tattoo warrior. I liked that character.

Mithrindir wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldn't be to hard....

You can be a good guy vampire as i side note.

Out of curiosity why do you want a higher ppe base for your city rat??

Things is we wanted to start a small campaign. I love magic and the possibilities. Soooo I want to basically become something else.

GM working with me slowly 25 sessions later. I now have 46PPE. I am on my way. I like the Tattoo idea. I was once a tattoo warrior. I liked that character.

Training to become a magic user automatically increases your PPE (at least if you're a non-mage to start), or adds the base for a mage to your existing PPE if you have a high base for some reason.

Nightmask wrote:

Mithrindir wrote:

Zamion138 wrote:You can also save a dijins life and make a wish....shouldn't be to hard....

You can be a good guy vampire as i side note.

Out of curiosity why do you want a higher ppe base for your city rat??

Things is we wanted to start a small campaign. I love magic and the possibilities. Soooo I want to basically become something else.

GM working with me slowly 25 sessions later. I now have 46PPE. I am on my way. I like the Tattoo idea. I was once a tattoo warrior. I liked that character.

Training to become a magic user automatically increases your PPE (at least if you're a non-mage to start), or adds the base for a mage to your existing PPE if you have a high base for some reason.

I think its a creative way to get the char to be a mage, it normaly takes years and years to be a mage so the gradual build up is goode role playing experience

I think there's also a book you can read in an astral kingdom (detailed in Shadows of Light) that gives you a PPE boost if you lack magical abilities.

Was just posting to the 'raise the Crazy's PP score" topic and remembered that if the char can get to Japan they might be able to learn Aikido (or was it something else) it gives a doubling effect to the char's PPE.