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In another thread I was asking about the possible ability to talk to plants at a crime scene to find out what happened. Drewkitty~..~ seemed to think that this would be covered by Object Read, but I don't think it would since plants are living things and not objects, any more than an animal is an object. What are some opinions on this?
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I would have the plants give scent based hints cigarettes smoke, cologne etc.
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The problem with allowing them to do any sort of communication and such is their lack of intelligence and sentience, so unless you assume they have that you are pretty much limited. I might just have to write a superpower whereas the hero grants the plant temporary intelligence so as to monitor a specific location.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:The problem with allowing them to do any sort of communication and such is their lack of intelligence and sentience, so unless you assume they have that you are pretty much limited. I might just have to write a superpower whereas the hero grants the plant temporary intelligence so as to monitor a specific location.

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Stone Gargoyle wrote:In another thread I was asking about the possible ability to talk to plants at a crime scene to find out what happened. Drewkitty~..~ seemed to think that this would be covered by Object Read, but I don't think it would since plants are living things and not objects, any more than an animal is an object. What are some opinions on this?


The New West (wb15) Plant Shaman have the following ability:

3. Communicate with plants: The Shaman can actually
speak to plants by using a kind of innate psychometry/telepathy;
those around the character will not hear him verbally speak and
he will look as if he's in a trance or idly lost in thought. The
plants' essences will not hold conversations, nor offer advice, or
make comments, they simply answer questions and/or give the
Shaman general impressions. Furthermore, other than trees, their
memories and perceptions are limited to the last 1D4 days so
they can only report on recent events; trees have memories that
last decades, although recent events (1D6 months) will be recalled
the most clearly. The plants will answer truthfully, but in
short answers of two or three words (mostly yes and no, big or
small, east or west, etc.). A question like, "what did he look
like?" will illicit a response like, "human, tall, black hair, mean
eyes, much equipment, in a hurry," and so on. Being stationary,
the plant's answers are limited by geography and visibility. It
can only tell what has happened in its immediate vicinity, or
what might be a human's line of sight in all directions. If other
plants and trees block or obscure its view, it cannot answer.
The Plant Shaman can also recognize and speak to any plant
spirit he may encounter (in plant form, possession of a plant or
in spirit/energy form). These supernatural energy beings are
much more perceptive and conversant than plants and can speak
in complete sentences, offer advice or cautions, and ask questions
themselves. As long as the Shaman is courteous and respectful,
the spirits should reply in kind, although they may elect
to keep certain information and thoughts to themselves — man
must, after all, learn to do for himself. Of course, spirits, having
a free will and an alignment, may cooperate, refuse or deceive.
Note: In both cases, the communication is mental and only
the Plant Shaman hears the plant or spirit's conversation. Eavesdropping
psychics can only tap into the Shaman's surface
thoughts, not the plant's or the invisible spirit's.
P.P.E. Cost: 6

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tristen wrote:You might want to just give book and page number. Stating blocks of copy written text can get you in trouble
Something like wb 15 Spirit west page 50 o.c.c abity number 3.


Sorry I only gave Book title, WB #, OCC, and Ability #, but not page...
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I'd allow the use of Object Read on plants, or at least things associated with them. This would be especially the case in a crime scene, where you might have strong emotions making an imprint on the area.
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For a higher-end take on what plants might sense, Palladium-style, there's some ideas to be had in Aliens Unlimited, pg. 140, under the characteristics of Vegetation Aliens. It's decidedly more powerful than I'd credit the average shrubbery, but it's something....
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SpiritInterface wrote:
Stone Gargoyle wrote:In another thread I was asking about the possible ability to talk to plants at a crime scene to find out what happened. Drewkitty~..~ seemed to think that this would be covered by Object Read, but I don't think it would since plants are living things and not objects, any more than an animal is an object. What are some opinions on this?


The New West (wb15) Plant Shaman have the following ability:

3. Communicate with plants: The Shaman can actually
speak to plants by using a kind of innate psychometry/telepathy;
those around the character will not hear him verbally speak and
he will look as if he's in a trance or idly lost in thought. The
plants' essences will not hold conversations, nor offer advice, or
make comments, they simply answer questions and/or give the
Shaman general impressions. Furthermore, other than trees, their
memories and perceptions are limited to the last 1D4 days so
they can only report on recent events; trees have memories that
last decades, although recent events (1D6 months) will be recalled
the most clearly. The plants will answer truthfully, but in
short answers of two or three words (mostly yes and no, big or
small, east or west, etc.). A question like, "what did he look
like?" will illicit a response like, "human, tall, black hair, mean
eyes, much equipment, in a hurry," and so on. Being stationary,
the plant's answers are limited by geography and visibility. It
can only tell what has happened in its immediate vicinity, or
what might be a human's line of sight in all directions. If other
plants and trees block or obscure its view, it cannot answer.
The Plant Shaman can also recognize and speak to any plant
spirit he may encounter (in plant form, possession of a plant or
in spirit/energy form). These supernatural energy beings are
much more perceptive and conversant than plants and can speak
in complete sentences, offer advice or cautions, and ask questions
themselves. As long as the Shaman is courteous and respectful,
the spirits should reply in kind, although they may elect
to keep certain information and thoughts to themselves — man
must, after all, learn to do for himself. Of course, spirits, having
a free will and an alignment, may cooperate, refuse or deceive.
Note: In both cases, the communication is mental and only
the Plant Shaman hears the plant or spirit's conversation. Eavesdropping
psychics can only tap into the Shaman's surface
thoughts, not the plant's or the invisible spirit's.
P.P.E. Cost: 6

Is this what you were thinking of?
That will work for what I want. The player actually wanted it as a superpower, so I could use this as the basis for one. Thanks.
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:That will work for what I want. The player actually wanted it as a superpower, so I could use this as the basis for one. Thanks.


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If the plant had a single owner would let it be used on them like an object....
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Stone Gargoyle wrote:In another thread I was asking about the possible ability to talk to plants at a crime scene to find out what happened. Drewkitty~..~ seemed to think that this would be covered by Object Read, but I don't think it would since plants are living things and not objects, any more than an animal is an object. What are some opinions on this?


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