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Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:36 pm
by Hotrod
What do you all think it will be? And why all the mystery?

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:47 pm
by The Beast
My vote is for "I no longer care."

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:48 pm
by Chronicle
i voted other, but mechanoids would be a blast..........but i know better :(

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:33 pm
by Shark_Force
reportedly, there are splicers manuscripts complete with art submitted to kevin. in theory, if kevin didn't feel quite as attached to the line as to basically every other line, and let someone else edit, do layout, etc, it could be a splicers book. but, practically speaking... my guess is art of some form, possibly a book (but with good odds of being a t-shirt or mug). not because that's what i want, mind, it's just pretty much the only thing i can honestly say i believe could go through the pipeline so quickly; there's very little editing to be done since few if any words are required, especially if it's a mug or shirt. my guess is based purely on what i think could actually have any realistic chance of being produced without a lot of time investment on kevin's part.

(edit: on a side note, you don't have splicers as an option)

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:03 am
by Hotrod
Oops. I do now.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:31 am
by zyanitevp
I do care....

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:05 am
by ffranceschi
Art book from the one and only...surprise!... :)

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:38 am
by Sureshot
Who knows. Quite frankly I'm getting sick and tired of surprises of any kind from Palladium.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:02 am
by bielmic
Sureshot wrote:Who knows. Quite frankly I'm getting sick and tired of surprises of any kind from Palladium.


Agreed. Last night's "surprise" on the Robotech KS is plenty for me personally. I put it in quotes because the disregard for keeping their word and towards backers was predicable months ago pretty much as soon as the "Gencon or bust!... but backers first!" promise was made.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:14 pm
by Kryptt
bielmic wrote:
Sureshot wrote:Who knows. Quite frankly I'm getting sick and tired of surprises of any kind from Palladium.


Agreed. Last night's "surprise" on the Robotech KS is plenty for me personally. I put it in quotes because the disregard for keeping their word and towards backers was predicable months ago pretty much as soon as the "Gencon or bust!... but backers first!" promise was made.



It'll be interesting if angry backers do show up at booth 1223 to discuss Kevin's questionable practices. Even if it do go down like that I don't think it'll be the yellfest some think it will be. Unless someone on either side loses it and then...

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:16 pm
by Hotrod
Sureshot wrote:Who knows. Quite frankly I'm getting sick and tired of surprises of any kind from Palladium.


I find it rather refreshing, myself. By publishing a book without formally announcing it, there's no fan frustration when the delays hit.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:47 pm
by Sureshot
Hotrod wrote:I find it rather refreshing, myself. By publishing a book without formally announcing it, there's no fan frustration when the delays hit.


Even before the RTT announecment they already have enough on their plate in terms of projects. To be blunt they already have a hard time getting books out. Adding another one to the backlog is not going to make other books get released faster imo. All they need to say is were able to add title xyz to the release schedule. They have used "it's a surprise" strategy one too many times imo. For me at least.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:50 am
by drewkitty ~..~
I will point out that the Murmur says a "surprise title". So it might be the PF paper figures that MadManMike mentions in the PF forum.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:05 am
by Damian Magecraft
I know what I want it to be... (one of the two BTS books, or Megaverse in Flames, or a new PF, or a new HU).
But the best odds are on one of the 3 following...
Yet another Rifts book (It is the company cash cow)
Robotech (There appears [to an outside observer] to be some sort of "obligation" to produce one fairly regularly)
Dead Reign (these seem to be spat out with some regularity)

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:09 am
by Everyman
My vote is a Chuck Walton art book

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:16 am
by Tiree
It could be the Adventures of Young Erin Tarn
A Chuck Walton Art Book
Rifts: Antarctica

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:18 am
by Damian Magecraft
Tiree wrote:It could be the Adventures of Young Erin Tarn
A Chuck Walton Art Book
Rifts: Antarctica
That last one would upset me greatly...
MiF needs to come out before any more "new" Rfits books get pushed up the queue.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:25 am
by Jorel
Sureshot wrote:
Hotrod wrote:I find it rather refreshing, myself. By publishing a book without formally announcing it, there's no fan frustration when the delays hit.


Even before the RTT announecment they already have enough on their plate in terms of projects. To be blunt they already have a hard time getting books out. Adding another one to the backlog is not going to make other books get released faster imo. All they need to say is were able to add title xyz to the release schedule. They have used "it's a surprise" strategy one too many times imo. For me at least.

It is gonna take more than that claim by a certain snake oil salesman to get me excited about anything Palladium for quite some time.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:06 am
by rosco60559
How bout 1 of the chaos earth books that have been blown off for 10+ years?

I admit a bit of OCD when it comes to the rifts collection but I might have been cured of that after a certain issue we can't mention without someone locking the thread.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:23 am
by Jorel
I doubt anything jumped ahead in the editing pipeline and Chaos Earth would have required that.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:26 am
by Shark_Force
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:I will point out that the Murmur says a "surprise title". So it might be the PF paper figures that MadManMike mentions in the PF forum.


think he mentioned those explicitly in the weekly update, so probably not them. but i agree it's far more likely to be them or something like that than it is to be an actual new RPG rulebook/sourcebook.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:28 am
by Sureshot
Damian Magecraft wrote:That last one would upset me greatly...
MiF needs to come out before any more "new" Rfits books get pushed up the queue.


I with Damian on this one. While I want to see Rifts Antartica. It really should not be released before MIF. Considering how delayed MIF is. It would show to me at least that they are not listening to the fans at all.

Jorel wrote:It is gonna take more than that claim by a certain snake oil salesman to get me excited about anything Palladium for quite some time.


LOL I have pretty much been ignoring the the majority of what is written in the murmurs for a better part of a year or more anyway. Not interested in reading about killer Geese from outer space.

rosco60559 wrote:How bout 1 of the chaos earth books that have been blown off for 10+ years?


Again would like to see a book for CE as well MIF needs to take priority. To be honest I would relaunch CE with a updated core book that includes all the magic. monsters and pyschic powers in one.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:39 am
by Tiree
Damian Magecraft wrote:
Tiree wrote:It could be the Adventures of Young Erin Tarn
A Chuck Walton Art Book
Rifts: Antarctica
That last one would upset me greatly...
MiF needs to come out before any more "new" Rfits books get pushed up the queue.

I realize it might upset you. But look at why I believe so: Mathew Clements. He has brought out books that weren't part of the normal pipeline. Black Market anyone? If Kevin doesn't believe he needs to edit it much, push a book. Since he's a freelancer/staff writer. He tends to have less rewrites and edits.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:47 am
by Sureshot
I think it will upset more than just Damian. If they want to push a smaller book that is easier to edit to get more money. I'm all for it. Just as long as PB don't make it out to be anything else but a money grab.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:42 pm
by Jorel
The script Path of the Storm or something like that

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:42 pm
by Jorel
Many another manuscript like that???

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:21 pm
by Sureshot
Ninjabunny wrote:Some one should write a book and call it "mistakes to avoid, when operating a publishing company." Half the damn examples would be from palladium.


C'mon guys lets not get this thread locked.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:25 pm
by Sureshot
Ninjabunny wrote:Truth hurts amigo.


I never said I disagreed with what you wrote. No need to keep repeating it over an over and over again. No need to get the op thread locked. But if you insist go ahead.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:29 pm
by Sureshot
Ninjabunny wrote:I said my peace and it was done with in board rules. If it happens it happens. I just don't care anymore.


I respect your unhappy. I would be too if I backed the RTT mini game. You know me as well. I'm not their biggest fan. Just trying to give a fellow poster some friendly advice.

Re: Rampant Speculation: The "Surprise Book"

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:42 am
by The Dark Elf
SSDD :frust:

I hope it's courts of light.

Oh -or a pfrpg book!