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What O.C.C.'s, R.C.C.'s, or P.C.C.'s would you assemble into your ideal group to run through the Sourcebook 2 Mechanoids adventures? What would be your reasong for each class? Assume all Rifts books are on the table.

Given how many psionics some of the mechanoids have having a good psychic in the group probably helps to counteract some of the stuff. Power armor/robot vehicles are also nice to stand up and slug with them and also because it gives immunity to a lot of mind controling psi powers.

A zapper is always fun against tech foes
A Cyberknight
A mage or two with some nice anti-tech spells
A mindbleeder for draining their ISP So is a sea inquisitor (heaven help the mechanoid that has to deal with a Sea Inquisitor Mind Bleeder)
Toss in some thing with group mind block to help deal with the annoying mind control and your going to really ruin mechanoidal days
A Machine person, or a Malvoran could be useful, as could a Phase Mystic

Considering that none of the Mechanoids have actual flesh and blood eyes, the Cloaking super ability would be especially potent against them. A character with Cloaking, Sonic Flight, and then whatever other abilities you prefer (avoid heat damage since Impervious to Fire would negate it) would be extremely effective against the Mechanoids.

--flatline

flatline wrote:Considering that none of the Mechanoids have actual flesh and blood eyes, the Cloaking super ability would be especially potent against them. A character with Cloaking, Sonic Flight, and then whatever other abilities you prefer (avoid heat damage since Impervious to Fire would negate it) would be extremely effective against the Mechanoids.

--flatline

Well, they DO have flesh-and-blood eyes, I believe. They just usually look through bionic eyes. It nets out about the same, though.
They'd be able to see a "slight blur that is hard to follow or target," so it wouldn't be complete invisibility… but the sonic speed would make it even tougher to target you.
Some of them could detect you psychically, but that's still a pretty good power combo against the Mechs.

Yeah you need a pretty powerful party. I would think a mage would be useful as they don't have much ability to counter magic. Also a Psi-Stalker would be good for tracking them and they have a great save vs. psionics. As has been said a Mind Melter with Group Mind Block, a Cyberknight with all those anti-tech abilities, a power armour/giant robot pilot or two to really dish out damage and it never hurts to have a dragon.

A Cyber-Knight as per the SoT4 and R:UE books is something I didn't consider - as much as I hate how they updated the class to anti-tech, it would be quite a boon versus the Mechanoids! You've given me some points to think on, thank you.

Glistam wrote:What O.C.C.'s, R.C.C.'s, or P.C.C.'s would you assemble into your ideal group to run through the Sourcebook 2 Mechanoids adventures? What would be your reasong for each class? Assume all Rifts books are on the table.

It all depends on what kind of adventure/campaign is being run.
If it's all going to be heavy combat, then obviously go for combat classes, preferably stuff that can be impervious to energy weapons.

If it's going to be more of a thinking-man's campaign, I'd say that you should have:
-A Wilderness Scout (for tracking)
-A Rogue Scientist (to learn all you can about the Mechanoids)
-An Operator (to learn about their technology, and possibly swipe some of it)
-A Psychic (because the mechanoids have psychic powers in their own right)
-A Mage (simply because the mechanoids aren't too familiar with magic)

Come to think of it, even in a hack & slash kind of campaign, the Adventurer classes would still be great, if the GM allows for them to take super powers as per CB1.

Glistam wrote:A Cyber-Knight as per the SoT4 and R:UE books is something I didn't consider - as much as I hate how they updated the class to anti-tech, it would be quite a boon versus the Mechanoids! You've given me some points to think on, thank you.

Yeah… I hate them too, but they'd be useful against the mechanoids.

Hmmm.... in no particular order:
- Lord Magus (Dweomer, for the Illusions)
- Psi-Tech (Psyscape, for the Telemechanics)
- Techno-Wizard (all around good dude, plus he enables the party to be equipped with a lot of TW)
- Warlock, Air (for the numerous elemental fragments he can summon; if he calls an Elemental, then a small army can be assembled)
- Gateway Knight (Madhaven, outstanding teleportation abilities)
- Mystic Knight (Madhaven, for the combat abilities)

Addendum: A Werewolf (or panther...) would also be useful. Impervious to practically everything is pretty nice.

Any 3 old ones and one of those aliens from phase world that ride around in a 1 man death star. (Solves all the problems that rifts earth has to offer.

Immortal Godling.
Temporal wizard.
Shifter.
Amaki Gizmoteer.
Machine person.
Cosmoknight.
Illapa Inca.

Cyber Knights (duh)
Mystic Knights (being impervious to the majority of their attacks is bonus, plus magic will trick the crap out of Mechanoids. they are also combat oriented.)
Psi-Techs (would be useful in understanding the Mechanoids technology)
Psi-Nullifiers (Other ISP/PPE driven OCCs will have to stay 10.1 feet away or have their powers not work, but would be a good way to disrupt Mechanoid psionics)
Zappers
Juicers/Cyborgs (to work within 10 feet of the Psi-Nullifiers)
And one Flooper (Cause everybody needs a Jar Jar that gets into trouble for the rest of the group to have to save).

Blue_Lion wrote:Any 3 old ones and one of those aliens from phase world that ride around in a 1 man death star. (Solves all the problems that rifts earth has to offer.

Dominator (every group need one)

I'm thinking of putting together a one-shot for a convention where the group is "assembled" at the Spider-Fortress, and other heroes who have answered the call of the Edict are running interference and providing "distractions," allowing this group to get inside and finish off the Mechanoids on Rifts Earth for good. I think there's been a lot of good ideas, thanks everyone for your help! If any more ideas come to anyone please don't hesitate to share.

I would love to use PowerSurge in that adventure.
My giant pc Cutter travels the megaverse fighting the mechanoids aided by an an all Female Algor Delphi Juicer army. He calls them SnowFoxes.
Unfortunately the average level of a SnowFox is 2-3 so far none have survived past 7th level and none has made it to last call.

At least one wasp, a couple runners, and a brain.

My first pass thoughts on a team, without looking through the books:

• Cyber-Knight (per R:UE/SoT4)
• A Psi-Tech or Psychic Operator
• A Zapper or Mind-Bleeder
• A psychic Power Armor pilot (power armor is TW enhanced)
• A Juicer or Crazy
• A Dragon Hatchling
• A Ley Line Walker, Shifter, or Temporal Wizard

All these characters would have TW armor with Impervious to Energy as one of its features.

I choose the Golden Horde from the PW Sourcebook.

Its everyone V the mechs so anything goes. I'd go with someone with enough psionics to get the jist of what they are.

splicers dreadguards, nuf said.......

My players might walk through this by the time we get through it. One of them is a Mechanoid Brute and another is a psi-infiltrator.

Flying Snow. Mega Genefreak level:7.
Powersurge. Mega Immortal Godling Warrior of Valhalla. Level:2.
Scorch. Experiment level:7.
Cutter.Greater Norse Giant Reaver Assassin level:5 With the Yggdrasil gift of Knowledge.
Killa Volt. Illapa Inca level:3.
Kevin Leemus. Mega dual class Alien Mutant/Earth&Fire Warlock levels:1/1.
And oddly enough RedSun. 5000 Year old Ellel possessing the Form of an Inti Inca hes had for 5000 years. level:60!! Yes killing the sentinent once human monstrosity is suitable to sustain the UltraPowerful Undead.

Seven of my Munchiest Characters. And with Redsun somehow always leading the survivors inti Hopeless battles against endless hordes.......

boxee wrote:splicers dreadguards, nuf said.......

Splicers vs Mechanoids.... I actually think without the nanoplague issue the Splicers got this fight. Alllll Day AND Tomorrow.

They got it until a Mechanoid Battlecruiser shows up.

Tor wrote:They got it until a Mechanoid Battlecruiser shows up.

Depends on where they are at the time, I was talking about the source book for rifts, so no battle cruisers. Too many opposing forces would unite if the mechanoids showed up in force.

Limiting to what is in Sourcebook 2... there's still the Multi-Brain Combat Vehicle on page 51. How do you deal with an 8000ft weapon zipping around at Mach 1 with unlimited altitude? You'd need Omni-upgraded Omega-Blasters or Organic Rockets, or hope they come within range of a Behemoth's Casting Gun. Presumably the Heat Projector Cannon of Zephyrs is already Omni-upgraded. Otherwise that'd be a good counter if you could stack that.

I think it'd be fun to play a rogue Kittani in the adventure.

The Coalition.
These guys are like the Chuck Norris of Palladium.

Tor wrote:They got it until a Mechanoid Battlecruiser shows up.

I think my group would be fine.

Cosmoknight for near imperviousness to energy.

Super TK now does MD a lot easier in RUE

An entire party of non-humanoids! Bypass the reaction entirely ^^

Since we're talking about silly option: Zentraedi battle cruiser from orbit.