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New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:57 am
by Library Ogre
Kevin Siembieda wrote:Rifts® is heating up
There has been a flurry of interest in Rifts® by third parties these past few months. Nothing big like a Walt Disney movie yet (waaahh, are they ever going to make a Rifts® movie?!), but a few things we think you’ll find fun and exciting.
Something new and exciting. In an effort to truly expand Rifts® across the Megaverse®, in cooperation with Palladium Books, another role-playing game company is currently adapting the Rifts® Earth setting to that company’s RPG system of rules, as well as producing adventure sourcebooks. This is only the second time in Palladium’s history that an outside company will create new game material under a different set of rules. Rumor Squashing: No, Palladium is NOT going to stop publishing Rifts®, nor change to a completely different set of rules. Far from it. In fact, Palladium expects to release six new Rifts® titles in 2015 and 98% of all Rifts® titles are in stock and available for purchase right now! The idea is that by offering Rifts® via another game company’s set of popular rules it creates a parallel dimension of gaming enjoyment. An expanding Megaverse®, if you will. This is a bit of an experiment, but we are excited to see how it all unfolds.
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I apologize that I cannot reveal who these partners are or when you can expect their products, at least not yet. These other companies will make the big, full announcements when they are ready; probably sometime over the next 4-10 months. When they do, I’ll be sure to let you know and provide more details.
So, reading this, is anyone else thinking about the implications for Fantasy?
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:24 pm
by Whiskeyjack
I'm gearing up to start a new fantasy campaign. I was toying with the idea of using pathfinder but in the palladium world. We'll figure it out this Sunday.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:33 pm
by Glistam
I think the implications for all of Palladium's game lines are very interesting, but only in an unofficial way. I expect we'll see the "no conversions" flag having to be raised constantly.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:16 pm
by Lori
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:03 pm
by Gthomas41571
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:07 am
by wodens_blade
well..i am NOT interested. it seems like some company will use the setting to promote their game. while I would be excited in having new source material...new adventures, anything, having to buy something with rules I have no interest in being exposed to does nothing for me.
NOW if they are publishing RIFTS adventures with the Palladium rules? then i'm excited.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:24 am
by Sir Dellis
Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of this either. Definitely good overall, but for the PFRPG line, it's kind of "meh". I like Rifts, play it occasionally but I don't see myself buying it.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:42 am
by pblackcrow
No, it's the neglected middle child. Rifts precious little spoiled brat of a baby! HU and Robotech are the sort of like the two oldest twins...BtS 2nd ed and 1st ed, ninjas and superspies, system failure, ATB/TMNT, ETC are the step children.
Well, at least we know who's publishing it. Hopefully they won't make everything stupid with MDC. That is not meant as a slam, by the way! I like Robotech because MDC works well within that setting, it is not ridiculously high, nor to the point where it is dysfunctional. I dislike Rifts because of the idiotic amounts of MDC.
Actually, I take that back. I dislike Rifts because everyone I have gamed with in Rifts, with 3 exceptions, has tried to out munchkin the everyone else playing instead of picking something that would actually COMPLIMENT the team, that and the fact that their answer to everything was to blow stuff up. I simply got until I hated the setting. Shawn, Marc, and Alex are the 3 exceptions to the rule. But they were like, "Yeah, we are gaming with munchkins." That was when we introduced the rule of on MDC worlds 1 MDC = 10 SDC. They formed their own group after they heard that.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:30 am
by URLeader Hobbes
Mark Hall wrote:Kevin Siembieda wrote:Rifts® is heating up
There has been a flurry of interest in Rifts® by third parties these past few months. Nothing big like a Walt Disney movie yet (waaahh, are they ever going to make a Rifts® movie?!), but a few things we think you’ll find fun and exciting.
Something new and exciting. In an effort to truly expand Rifts® across the Megaverse®, in cooperation with Palladium Books, another role-playing game company is currently adapting the Rifts® Earth setting to that company’s RPG system of rules, as well as producing adventure sourcebooks. This is only the second time in Palladium’s history that an outside company will create new game material under a different set of rules. Rumor Squashing: No, Palladium is NOT going to stop publishing Rifts®, nor change to a completely different set of rules. Far from it. In fact, Palladium expects to release six new Rifts® titles in 2015 and 98% of all Rifts® titles are in stock and available for purchase right now! The idea is that by offering Rifts® via another game company’s set of popular rules it creates a parallel dimension of gaming enjoyment. An expanding Megaverse®, if you will. This is a bit of an experiment, but we are excited to see how it all unfolds.
...
I apologize that I cannot reveal who these partners are or when you can expect their products, at least not yet. These other companies will make the big, full announcements when they are ready; probably sometime over the next 4-10 months. When they do, I’ll be sure to let you know and provide more details.
So, reading this, is anyone else thinking about the implications for Fantasy?
Nope...
This just means that PB will have extra $$$ to not spend on the fantasy line.. Nothing new here folks!
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:30 am
by URLeader Hobbes
Mark Hall wrote:Kevin Siembieda wrote:Rifts® is heating up
There has been a flurry of interest in Rifts® by third parties these past few months. Nothing big like a Walt Disney movie yet (waaahh, are they ever going to make a Rifts® movie?!), but a few things we think you’ll find fun and exciting.
Something new and exciting. In an effort to truly expand Rifts® across the Megaverse®, in cooperation with Palladium Books, another role-playing game company is currently adapting the Rifts® Earth setting to that company’s RPG system of rules, as well as producing adventure sourcebooks. This is only the second time in Palladium’s history that an outside company will create new game material under a different set of rules. Rumor Squashing: No, Palladium is NOT going to stop publishing Rifts®, nor change to a completely different set of rules. Far from it. In fact, Palladium expects to release six new Rifts® titles in 2015 and 98% of all Rifts® titles are in stock and available for purchase right now! The idea is that by offering Rifts® via another game company’s set of popular rules it creates a parallel dimension of gaming enjoyment. An expanding Megaverse®, if you will. This is a bit of an experiment, but we are excited to see how it all unfolds.
...
I apologize that I cannot reveal who these partners are or when you can expect their products, at least not yet. These other companies will make the big, full announcements when they are ready; probably sometime over the next 4-10 months. When they do, I’ll be sure to let you know and provide more details.
So, reading this, is anyone else thinking about the implications for Fantasy?
Nope...
This just means that PB will have extra $$$ to not spend on the fantasy line.. Nothing new here folks!
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:35 am
by wodens_blade
pblackcrow wrote:
Actually, I take that back. I dislike Rifts because everyone I have gamed with in Rifts, with 3 exceptions, has tried to out munchkin the everyone else playing instead of picking something that would actually COMPLIMENT the team, that and the fact that their answer to everything was to blow stuff up. I simply got until I hated the setting. Shawn, Marc, and Alex are the 3 exceptions to the rule. But they were like, "Yeah, we are gaming with munchkins." That was when we introduced the rule of on MDC worlds 1 MDC = 10 SDC. They formed their own group after they heard that.
sounds like you just had a bad experience with power-gamers. nothing is wrong with that either, the world isn't a fair place, some guys are pro-boxers and some drive trucks, the boxer is probably better in fights. I think it adds a tinge of realism if you have a lowly operator in a group of cyborg-soldiers and glitterboys.
Role play it! you could be a glitterboy pilot pacifist and refuse to fight, you could defend bad-guys from your gun-crazy brothers. all things are story hooks.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:55 pm
by pblackcrow
wodens_blade wrote:pblackcrow wrote:
Actually, I take that back. I dislike Rifts because everyone I have gamed with in Rifts, with 3 exceptions, has tried to out munchkin the everyone else playing instead of picking something that would actually COMPLIMENT the team, that and the fact that their answer to everything was to blow stuff up. I simply got until I hated the setting. Shawn, Marc, and Alex are the 3 exceptions to the rule. But they were like, "Yeah, we are gaming with munchkins." That was when we introduced the rule of on MDC worlds 1 MDC = 10 SDC. They formed their own group after they heard that.
sounds like you just had a bad experience with power-gamers. nothing is wrong with that either, the world isn't a fair place, some guys are pro-boxers and some drive trucks, the boxer is probably better in fights. I think it adds a tinge of realism if you have a lowly operator in a group of cyborg-soldiers and glitterboys.
Role play it! you could be a glitterboy pilot pacifist and refuse to fight, you could defend bad-guys from your gun-crazy brothers. all things are story hooks.
Bad? Try a constant pain for 7 years, and it wasn't just 1 group of players it was everyone of them, it got me to where I absolutely hate playing Rifts and where I still will not play unless the MDC to SDC ratio is greatly reduce.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:55 pm
by Hotrod
Eh, I'm ok with it. Bad Beagle has its own fantasy line. I'm thinking it won't be difficult to simply import the new Rifts rules into Fantasy. That's the whole idea of the system, isn't it, to be a universal system you can customize to a wide range of settings? Such a move could be a nice way to use all these new, fancy paper minis.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:07 pm
by Suicycho
I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:40 am
by Damian Magecraft
Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:25 am
by Suicycho
Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
I see no need to buy existing material from a different game line.
However, when they publish NEW material, it will be worth purchasing and should be no problem for experienced GM’s to easily adapt to palladium rules.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:14 am
by Damian Magecraft
Suicycho wrote:Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
I see no need to buy existing material from a different game line.
However, when they publish NEW material, it will be worth purchasing and should be no problem for experienced GM’s to easily adapt to palladium rules.
Actually having the core material from the first SvW book will go a long way to making the changes simpler (existing benchmarks and all).
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:55 am
by flatline
I've got the SW core book and the Fantasy Companion book. They're not bad, but I didn't find them to be particularly compelling, either.
The thing that I really like about SW is that the mechanics allow for fast resolution of combat so you can get back to the important stuff like, err, non-combat.
--flatline
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:52 pm
by Prysus
Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
Greetings and Salutations. Well, in the April 19th update it said Rifts Earth (guessing a main book) and "adventure sourcebooks." I could be wrong about its meaning or usage usage, but sounds more like adventure scenarios (possibly quite detailed) which is something Palladium doesn't do much of. Just my interpretation. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:34 pm
by Library Ogre
Prysus wrote:Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
Greetings and Salutations. Well, in the April 19th update it said Rifts Earth (guessing a main book) and "adventure sourcebooks." I could be wrong about its meaning or usage usage, but sounds more like adventure scenarios (possibly quite detailed) which is something Palladium doesn't do much of. Just my interpretation. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
Which would be in keeping with the general output of smaller presses like Evil Beagle. However, that could still see things converted... tossing in Wolfen, or goblins, or trolls, or what have you.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:34 pm
by Library Ogre
Prysus wrote:Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
Greetings and Salutations. Well, in the April 19th update it said Rifts Earth (guessing a main book) and "adventure sourcebooks." I could be wrong about its meaning or usage usage, but sounds more like adventure scenarios (possibly quite detailed) which is something Palladium doesn't do much of. Just my interpretation. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
Which would be in keeping with the general output of smaller presses like Evil Beagle. However, that could still see things converted... tossing in Wolfen, or goblins, or trolls, or what have you.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:25 am
by Lori
Prysus wrote:Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
Greetings and Salutations. Well, in the April 19th update it said Rifts Earth (guessing a main book) and "adventure sourcebooks." I could be wrong about its meaning or usage usage, but sounds more like adventure scenarios (possibly quite detailed) which is something Palladium doesn't do much of. Just my interpretation. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
Seems like this might be pretty limited then.
There are a lot of More O.C.C.s outside the mainbook then in. Perhaps mostly, Coalition themed/based adventures then?
I like Savage Worlds as a system, but I'm curious to see how the SW system deals with all the (good/bad) things that makes it Rifts. Character classes are handled more simply in Savage for instance-but OCCs are more of an old school approach to character class/ which is something I really like.
The die mechanics in Savage have more to do with rolling for success and as one builds up skill improving the chance of success by moving up die (d4 to d6; d6 to d8 etc.).
To be honest at first I was excited about this... Now I'm kind of on the fence... I'll just take the wait and see approach.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:56 am
by Damian Magecraft
Lori wrote:Prysus wrote:Damian Magecraft wrote:Suicycho wrote:I wonder if they will be pushing new material or just reprinting existing world books converted to their system?
Both i would imagine.
They are going to have to at least touch on the iconic classes from RUE.
Greetings and Salutations. Well, in the April 19th update it said Rifts Earth (guessing a main book) and "adventure sourcebooks." I could be wrong about its meaning or usage usage, but sounds more like adventure scenarios (possibly quite detailed) which is something Palladium doesn't do much of. Just my interpretation. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
Seems like this might be pretty limited then.
There are a lot of More O.C.C.s outside the mainbook then in. Perhaps mostly, Coalition themed/based adventures then?
I like Savage Worlds as a system, but I'm curious to see how the SW system deals with all the (good/bad) things that makes it Rifts. Character classes are handled more simply in Savage for instance-but OCCs are more of an old school approach to character class/ which is something I really like.
The die mechanics in Savage have more to do with rolling for success and as one builds up skill improving the chance of success by moving up die (d4 to d6; d6 to d8 etc.).
To be honest at first I was excited about this... Now I'm kind of on the fence... I'll just take the wait and see approach.
Sean Patrick Fannon (lead designer of the project) has stated there will be a "guide" to "converting" other occ's.
I would also assume there will be the occasional additional professions added in the adventure scenario books (there are other Iconic classes that will be in high demand by fans... Mystic Knights comes to mind for instance)
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:07 am
by Riftmaker
Ivebeen reading the sw rules and i wondering how the magic system will work for techno wizards.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:27 pm
by Damian Magecraft
Probably a variation on the AB: Weird Science.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 12:37 am
by Lori
Riftmaker wrote:Ivebeen reading the sw rules and i wondering how the magic system will work for techno wizards.
Yes, very curious as well.
I'm not familiar with any sort of magic crafting with SW.
Re: New system for Rifts Announcement
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:23 am
by Dark
Damian Magecraft wrote:Probably a variation on the AB: Weird Science.
I agree. It seems the most logical conversion to me, though imperfect.
Lori wrote:Riftmaker wrote:Ivebeen reading the sw rules and i wondering how the magic system will work for techno wizards.
Yes, very curious as well.
I'm not familiar with any sort of magic crafting with SW.
There are a variety of alchemical systems that I'm aware of, though they merely allow one to produce expendable items etc. True crafting I'm not so sure.
