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The Dead Reign main book states that a zombie must kill you for you to become a zombie, states so on page 29. Graveyard Earth however states on page 13 that people dying from starvation and exposure become zombies. And page 14 from Hell Followed also implies that people who die come back regardless. Which one is it guys?

Unfortunate Son wrote:The Dead Reign main book states that a zombie must kill you for you to become a zombie, states so on page 29. Graveyard Earth however states on page 13 that people dying from starvation and exposure become zombies. And page 14 from Hell Followed also implies that people who die come back regardless. Which one is it guys?

This sounds like bad editing
The original manuscripts had a 'Z-Virus' that was transmitted by zombie bites. Though that turned you right away (think HSotD which might be the reason it got nixed to be honest)
This... this sounds like someone has been watching too much Walking Dead

Unfortunate Son wrote:The Dead Reign main book states that a zombie must kill you for you to become a zombie, states so on page 29. Graveyard Earth however states on page 13 that people dying from starvation and exposure become zombies. And page 14 from Hell Followed also implies that people who die come back regardless. Which one is it guys?

I suppose if a zombie breaks down your door, ruining the insulation of your home, and you freeze to death, they did technically cause your death...

Or if a flesh-eating zombie eats your pig and you were going to eat that pig, that it did technically enact your starvation...

As-is, you can possibly turn zombie from an injected bite causing zombie rot...

Or maybe even if you bleed to death from a zombie wound.

Zombies can use weapons so it's not like contact is needed. Only the idea that they caused your death, influenced it somehow, even if it was by directing the movement of a weapon.

If a zombie manipulating a physical object (some can even use guns!) counts as them killing you, then them manipulating objects in other ways (wrecking your house, killing the captive humans you were planning to cannibalize) and cause your death counting seems reasonable.

It doesn't mean ANYONE dying from exposure/starvation turns, maybe it only applies if a zombie caused those things.

I can't find the zvirus in my book is it in a source book

Osun wrote:I can't find the zvirus in my book is it in a source book

No, he said the "original manuscript." Dead Reign was changed by the time it was put into print.

My first guess is that Matthew Clements just forgot the specifics of what Hilden and Sanford wrote in the core book, but there's still a way out...

Unfortunate Son wrote:Graveyard Earth however states on page 13 that people dying from starvation and exposure become zombies.

Firstly I noticed in the left column under "Mexican border" in the section continued from previous page about US West Coast that:

Some survivors looking for help are gunned down by unsure border guards, only to rise up as zombies.

This seems pretty off, as that should only happen with people who are Half-Living...

What you refer to is under US Pacific North West under "Idaho and Montana":

And when people die from exposure, injury or starvation, they turn into zombies that wander across the wilderness

This again, should only happen to the Half-Living.

I would be the first to say "Half-Living are people too!" so since this only says "some survivors" (not ALL survivors) and "people" (not ALL people) we can simply assume that these statements refer to Half-Living, and that non-Half-Living people do not rise when they die from injuries (like gunshots), exposure or starvation.

That or... there might be something unique going on along the Mexican border / Idaho / Montana which causes the rules to operate differently, making for a fun setting but with rules which do not carry over to other areas in the world.

Unfortunate Son wrote:page 14 from Hell Followed also implies that people who die come back regardless.

Could you provide the text you're referring to?