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An interesting question came up. What happens to the Transferred mind if their human body is killed while they are in the Robot? Neither HUr or HU2ed says anything about it and neither does Source Book one.

id gess they are stuck in the machine . I'd make them make some insanity rolls.

Mind is still inside the machine. There is a guy who is Centurion in Century Station
sourcebook that this happen too I believe.

Reagren Wright wrote:Mind is still inside the machine. There is a guy who is Centurion in Century Station
sourcebook that this happen too I believe.

Thank you for the info, I will look into it.

The transferred intelligence PC is written for those chars that only have a robot body IIRC.

Which are different then the MOM VR remote controlled drones presented in the Triax and MiO books. In which if the body is kill the char is killed. Is 98% certain of this.

SideNote: the anime 'ID-0' (said 'ID Zero') transferred intelligence has a central role in the story. Not exactly like the HU TI but close enough to mention.

In a game a character was transferred into into robot body and was fighting the villain when a henchman fired a 4 pack of LAWs into the van that held his real body, blowing it to smithereens. The question was is he stuck in just the one body or could he transfer into any robot that was designed for him?

SpiritInterface wrote:In a game a character was transferred into into robot body and was fighting the villain when a henchman fired a 4 pack of LAWs into the van that held his real body, blowing it to smithereens. The question was is he stuck in just the one body or could he transfer into any robot that was designed for him?

You'd have to physically transfer the mind containment vessel from one robot body to the other, I don't think the game has that kind of advanced set-up where a mind could 'body hop' as it were like that, transferring from one robot vessel to another.

SpiritInterface wrote:In a game a character was transferred into into robot body and was fighting the villain when a henchman fired a 4 pack of LAWs into the van that held his real body, blowing it to smithereens. The question was is he stuck in just the one body or could he transfer into any robot that was designed for him?

Yes easily.
HU 2nd edition page 194
Note number 5 "range for transfer from body to robot, robot to another prepared robot body or vice versa is 50 miles."

That pretty clearly says that you can move between robots as long as each robot has a TI 'core' to receive you.


Additional note. The book also says that if the human body dies the characters mind is forever trapped inside the robot.
This pretty well answers the question of what happens to the character. If the GM wishes they can house rule up some additional penalties of course, but there are none listed in the book for this happening to a person other than being stuck in robot bodies.

eliakon wrote:

SpiritInterface wrote:In a game a character was transferred into into robot body and was fighting the villain when a henchman fired a 4 pack of LAWs into the van that held his real body, blowing it to smithereens. The question was is he stuck in just the one body or could he transfer into any robot that was designed for him?

Yes easily.
HU 2nd edition page 194
Note number 5 "range for transfer from body to robot, robot to another prepared robot body or vice versa is 50 miles."

That pretty clearly says that you can move between robots as long as each robot has a TI 'core' to receive you.


Additional note. The book also says that if the human body dies the characters mind is forever trapped inside the robot.
This pretty well answers the question of what happens to the character. If the GM wishes they can house rule up some additional penalties of course, but there are none listed in the book for this happening to a person other than being stuck in robot bodies.

Hmmm, forgot that they did actually allow for robot-to-robot transfer of the transferred intelligence. Have to make a note of that so I don't forget.

Nightmask wrote:

eliakon wrote:

SpiritInterface wrote:In a game a character was transferred into into robot body and was fighting the villain when a henchman fired a 4 pack of LAWs into the van that held his real body, blowing it to smithereens. The question was is he stuck in just the one body or could he transfer into any robot that was designed for him?

Yes easily.
HU 2nd edition page 194
Note number 5 "range for transfer from body to robot, robot to another prepared robot body or vice versa is 50 miles."

That pretty clearly says that you can move between robots as long as each robot has a TI 'core' to receive you.


Additional note. The book also says that if the human body dies the characters mind is forever trapped inside the robot.
This pretty well answers the question of what happens to the character. If the GM wishes they can house rule up some additional penalties of course, but there are none listed in the book for this happening to a person other than being stuck in robot bodies.

Hmmm, forgot that they did actually allow for robot-to-robot transfer of the transferred intelligence. Have to make a note of that so I don't forget.

However doesn't the part about the mind being trapped in 'the' robot forever imply that it is stuck in the one robot?

Our GM is thinking of a modified version of Transfer/Possession power using the description of Telemechanic Possession as a new power to give them.

SpiritInterface wrote:

Nightmask wrote:

eliakon wrote:

SpiritInterface wrote:In a game a character was transferred into into robot body and was fighting the villain when a henchman fired a 4 pack of LAWs into the van that held his real body, blowing it to smithereens. The question was is he stuck in just the one body or could he transfer into any robot that was designed for him?

Yes easily.
HU 2nd edition page 194
Note number 5 "range for transfer from body to robot, robot to another prepared robot body or vice versa is 50 miles."

That pretty clearly says that you can move between robots as long as each robot has a TI 'core' to receive you.


Additional note. The book also says that if the human body dies the characters mind is forever trapped inside the robot.
This pretty well answers the question of what happens to the character. If the GM wishes they can house rule up some additional penalties of course, but there are none listed in the book for this happening to a person other than being stuck in robot bodies.

Hmmm, forgot that they did actually allow for robot-to-robot transfer of the transferred intelligence. Have to make a note of that so I don't forget.

However doesn't the part about the mind being trapped in 'the' robot forever imply that it is stuck in the one robot?

Our GM is thinking of a modified version of Transfer/Possession power using the description of Telemechanic Possession as a new power to give them.

Since we're told it can transfer between robot bodies without returning to the original body then with the original body killed it should still be able to transfer between the special robot bodies set up for it. The 'trapped forever' is just a basic statement of fact, there is no longer an organic body to return to therefor they're trapped as a robot forever. It doesn't mean that they're unable to leave that particular robot body though if other compatible bodies are available.

Spartacus that is his name from Century Station. See lot easier to do this at home rather than
work. It even goes on to say "Stickley's life essence has been fully and irreversibly digitized."
I also think we should also bare into mind that transfer intelligent was originally written in 84 and
as technology has evolved so should the "science fiction" of this ability. So considered the
containment unit is a glorified smartphone, if one has an extra body somewhere and the TI knows
exactly where it located, he could in theory phone himself anyway in the world. Originally it was
30 feet, then 1 mile, currently it's 50 miles. So as we can see the change of technology has
altered this ability, so since HU is stuck in 1997/98 tech (Sparatucs is 1999/2000 tech), why not
have make the range world wide?

Reagren Wright wrote:Spartacus that is his name from Century Station. See lot easier to do this at home rather than
work. It even goes on to say "Stickley's life essence has been fully and irreversibly digitized."
I also think we should also bare into mind that transfer intelligent was originally written in 84 and
as technology has evolved so should the "science fiction" of this ability. So considered the
containment unit is a glorified smartphone, if one has an extra body somewhere and the TI knows
exactly where it located, he could in theory phone himself anyway in the world. Originally it was
30 feet, then 1 mile, currently it's 50 miles. So as we can see the change of technology has
altered this ability, so since HU is stuck in 1997/98 tech (Sparatucs is 1999/2000 tech), why not
have make the range world wide?

There have also been movies where a person's consciousness moves into Cyberspace and can then access machines. I believe Lawnmower Man was one of them.

The Movie Ghost in the Shell main character is a form of transferred intelligence whose body has been killed.

Adventus wrote:The Movie Ghost in the Shell main character is a form of transferred intelligence whose body has been killed.

In the original Anime she is a full conversion cyborg.

Another question that came up is can you build new or more bodies for the intelligence to transfer into? If so what would be the top limit?

SpiritInterface wrote:

Adventus wrote:The Movie Ghost in the Shell main character is a form of transferred intelligence whose body has been killed.

In the original Anime she is a full conversion cyborg.

Another question that came up is can you build new or more bodies for the intelligence to transfer into? If so what would be the top limit?

Yes, you can build new and more robotic bodies... but the mind can only inhabit one at a time. There is no limit to the number of robotic one can have... save the budget to make them, but even if one has 100 or 1,000,000 robotic bodies... you can only inhabit one of them at any given time. Transferring between them (provided they are in range) may not take much time, but it is likely going to be a little disorienting... to the point where one really can't control more than one body effectively... especially in intense situations like combat... unless you don't mind an inactive body getting shot and blasted while you are in a different body (taking out a non-responsive robotic body to limit the places you could retreat to is a viable tactic in a combat situation... it doesn't fight back and can't parry, dodge or roll with a punch).