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Malvoren Question

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm
by LostOne
The Malvoren from the D-Bees book meld with cybernetics and such. I got curious while reading them. Could they meld with M.O.M. enhancements and get the bonuses of a Crazy?

What about Phase Weapons?

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:38 pm
by Mack
I'm going with a "No" because their chemistry is too different from a human.

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:43 pm
by LostOne
Mack wrote:I'm going with a "No" because their chemistry is too different from a human.


Not sure that Crazy augmentation relies on chemistry so much as electrical stimulation of various regions of the brain. We don't have enough information about Malvoren anatomy to know for sure, but I was leaning towards no just for balance reasons.

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:02 pm
by Mack
Don't read too much into my use of the word 'chemistry.' It simply conveyed the concept.

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:51 am
by Khanibal
I don't see any reason phase weapons would present a problem.

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:42 am
by ShadowLogan
LostOne wrote:
Mack wrote:I'm going with a "No" because their chemistry is too different from a human.


Not sure that Crazy augmentation relies on chemistry so much as electrical stimulation of various regions of the brain. We don't have enough information about Malvoren anatomy to know for sure, but I was leaning towards no just for balance reasons.

MOM implants would almost have to rely on chemistry on some level.

I would also say that stock/general MOM implants would not work on them due to their alien physiology. That does not mean someone could not produce compatible MOM implants for them to meld with.

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:38 pm
by LostOne
It could be argued that if they can connect with optic eyes and hearing implants (the the RCC specifically says is preferred), which all interface with the brain, that maybe the M.O.M. conversion isn't all that out of reach.

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:50 pm
by LostOne
Additional question: Could a Malvoren recharge the e-clips of his party? If they know they're going to be hunting vamps in a few days could he load them for that so their energy weapons will damage vampires? Or do these weapons only hurt vamps if he recharged them and is melded with them?

Re: Malvoren Question

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:43 am
by ShadowLogan
LostOne wrote:It could be argued that if they can connect with optic eyes and hearing implants (the the RCC specifically says is preferred), which all interface with the brain, that maybe the M.O.M. conversion isn't all that out of reach.

There are a few problems with this line of thinking though:
-Psychics. All Crazies AFAIK have a set Psionic Power Level AND restrictions on what they can take as a result of the MOM implants. The natural level of the Malvoren exceeds this.
-Anatomy. We are told the implants only work on humans and human-like D-bees. I would say that rules out the Malvoren given their natural abilities. Optic and Auditory implants don't require the same level of precision in where they are placed in the body, but the MOM implants are very selective (they target specific centers of the brain).

This all leads to the view that a Malvoren would not benefit in anyway from melding with a MOM implant beyond cosmetic reasons.

LostOne wrote:Additional question: Could a Malvoren recharge the e-clips of his party? If they know they're going to be hunting vamps in a few days could he load them for that so their energy weapons will damage vampires? Or do these weapons only hurt vamps if he recharged them and is melded with them?

I think the question here is can the Malvoren recharge an Eclip for an unmelded weapon? I would have to say no as the ability to pass the Eclip to another is not mentioned (so a GM's call).